Piper(men)talkers, If your spouse is in need of biblical discipline would you be offended if the elders of your church circumvented your authority and...
Interesting question. Never thought of it. ... From: "Moe" <ic2@...> To: <pipertalk@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 4:13 PM Subject:...
Brad Soukup
brsoukup@...
May 1, 2004 11:22 pm
7504
Moe, I'm not sure I have "authority over" my wife. I wouldnt want to word it like that. And what are the *elders* doing exercising spiritual discipline? Is ...
Graham, No offense intended, but methinks you need some big doses of God's Word in your life and thought. Brad ... From: "Graham Old" <divrom@...> To:...
Brad Soukup
brsoukup@...
May 2, 2004 1:24 am
7506
I guess that would depend on your Churche's Confession and policy. I have read somewhere in Hebrews that we are to take heed to the Elders who have rule over...
... Word in ... No offence taken, Brad. I am absolutely convinced that my life and thought could be more accurately alligned with Jesus Christ. But on this...
... say ... is ... No, I think you're spot on, Daniel. In my mind, the thinking kinda goes like this: 1) I cannot adequately capture anything's essence in...
... only say the ... everything it does ... Brad, of course the "method" is flawed. That's the point! All methods are going to be flawed. All human attempts to...
Graham, Thanks for your understanding. I like the way you write. The disadvantage of this sort of forum is that you cannot see people and their reactions. ...
Brad Soukup
brsoukup@...
May 2, 2004 11:09 am
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... husband has ... Ah, that's not what I had an aversion to. What I had an aversion to was the *phrase* "authority over his wife." Perhaps I simply try to go...
Brian, But shouldn't the elders honor and respect the husband/father's position of "authority" (for lack of a better word given that he is supposed to as...
Graham, How's does "oversight" sound to you brother? I believe it is biblical. Discipline being the training up of the "disciples" under their charge. ...
From what i understand ( i could be wrong) Dr. Piper grew up in the southern Baptist church. What prompted the change to the type of Baptist he is now? what...
aaron arledge
aaronarledge@...
May 2, 2004 8:19 pm
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I think that would be the case if the husband is showing true oversight of the family and some are not as we often see unruly youths in the youth groups and...
... the "disciples" under their charge. ... Moe, My mistake. I thought we were talking about "spiritual discipline" in a Mt. 18 sense. (That's how we tend to...
<<As to yuor question, no - I think the elders have over-stepped the mark at that point. And, I think they've misunderstood the nature of their authority.>> ...
Aaron, I can't speak specifically for Dr. Piper, although I have heard him talk about his change to Calvinism during seminary days. I have a very similar ...
... As a pastor, when I have been involved with Matt 18 discipline, it must start with one person. It only spreads to others if the person being confronted...
[Moe wrote] "If your spouse is in need of biblical discipline would you be offended if the elders of your church circumvented your authority and addressed your...
Interesting how this tends to happen in churches...leave it to the elders to do everything, when the scriptures don't teach that, and unfortunately elders...
Steve Fuchs (on MSN)
SteveF_MS@...
May 3, 2004 9:45 pm
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... must ... church if ... of this ... person's ... you must ... Hi Chuck, Completely agree. When I spoke of spiritual discipline being the church's...
I like this example from Jay Adams on couples who don't love each other anymore and I believe if it's just intolerance on the husband's part, or that she isn't...
I think a good model would that of C.H.Spurgeon's work in his church with trained elders and I think that Adam's believes the same Idea of trained elders to...
Good morning! I assume most of you receive the "Fresh Words" from Piper. In the most recent one, he noted what he is working on over his writing sabbatical....
I have some questions about ministry and the use of spiritual gifts. I realize there will be a variety of viewpoints and I look forward to that input. I just...
... God -- ... what would ... turn your ... sabbath a ... desisting from ... word, ... I think that's good, Rosa, I agree! We may grow in delighting in the ...
Rosa, Wow. Good couple of letters. They will take some time to digest. An initial off the cuff response to your question is this - "Where your treasure is, ...
Brad Soukup
brsoukup@...
May 13, 2004 10:40 am
7530
Rosa, Here is another thought. I wonder if what is needed is simply a sovereign work of God on our souls. It seems that we will not feel appropriate and ...
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