Dear friends, I have been pondering these two simplistic questions over the last week: 1. What keeps the true-believer coming back to God after they have...
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steveprost
Aug 6, 2005 2:48 pm
My quick stab: First question answer is obviously 'God' himself at deeper levels (God is the cause of everything of course at the ultimate level, God's Spirit...
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feedsasquatch
Aug 6, 2005 4:45 pm
In response to question 1 all I can say is grace, grace and more grace. Rom 9:16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy....
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Rod Rindahl
epaphroditus...
Aug 6, 2005 7:29 pm
[Steve wrote] First question answer is obviously 'God' himself at deeper levels (God is the cause of everything of course at the ultimate level, God's Spirit...
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feedsasquatch
Aug 7, 2005 11:08 pm
Rod, I agree that your views on God's grace in respect to salvation are Biblical but I don't think you can support your position on God and evil biblically....
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Rod Rindahl
epaphroditus...
Aug 8, 2005 3:52 pm
Aaron, Thanks for the encouragement to read Piper. I have the book and have read and re-read the chapter you mention. I do not find Piper, nor the Bible saying...
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feedsasquatch
Aug 9, 2005 1:57 am
I'm sorry Rod. I wasn't paying enough attention to what you said. Yes, I fully agree with you. Aaron ... have read and re-read the chapter you mention. I do...
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christiantots
Aug 9, 2005 8:45 am
Hi Rod, How is Rick Warren's programs doing for your church? I have kind of given up explaining my issues about Rick Warren to people, even when they initiate...
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doug
mixers2
Aug 9, 2005 12:37 pm
Come on. He didn't ignore it. Warren spends an entire paragraph boiling down Romans 1-11 into a nifty little prayer ;-) Doug On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:45:02...
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christiantots
Aug 9, 2005 2:30 pm
Hi Doug! I have given away the PDL book and thrown away the smallgroup workgroup. :P Care to referesh my memory? As far as Romans 12:1,2 is concerned, I only...
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Douglas Mixer
mixers2
Aug 9, 2005 2:39 pm
On page 58 (Chapter 7 - The Reason for Everything), he actually spends two paragraphs on his version of the gospel. We are to first believe that God loves us...
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christiantots
Aug 9, 2005 2:51 pm
Hi Doug, "his version of the gospel" - how can you say that about the America's Pastor, the one on whom God has given the keys of the Kingdom so that your...
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Rod Rindahl
epaphroditus...
Aug 9, 2005 10:14 pm
Dear Friends, Some times when we bait our brothers, the trap we set, often comes back to bite us! I am not going to enter into a sarcastic (flesh-tearing)...
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Jeff
jthomas899
Aug 9, 2005 10:29 pm
How do you know God is working thru Warren? Do you know the mind of God? Jeff Rod Rindahl <rodanddanni@...> wrote: Dear Friends, Some times when...
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Rod Rindahl
epaphroditus...
Aug 9, 2005 10:30 pm
["How is Rick Warren's programs doing for your church?"] First, It was a good launch pad for our small groups. Our church did not have small groups meeting...
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Jack Curson
jdcurson
Aug 9, 2005 10:58 pm
It was a reply to help you think of that question. Do you know the mind of God? What an excellent question! I would tend to believe that we are giving the...
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Corey W
coolguy247365
Aug 9, 2005 11:48 pm
Hi guys, Just to let you know, personally, I think it's a little unfair how some people within the Christian community have been treating Rick Warren. When I...
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Brian G. Hedges
bhhedges
Aug 10, 2005 12:11 am
Corey, I concur. I certainly don't agree with everything Rick Warren says or does, but I've found his books helpful on some points. I prefer discussions of a...
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Jeff
jthomas899
Aug 10, 2005 1:57 am
Richard Abnes is of course unbias (NOT!) He was a member and maybe on staff at Saddleback. Jeff Corey W <coolguy247365@...> wrote: Hi guys, Just to let...
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Corey W
coolguy247365
Aug 10, 2005 2:47 am
So, what, Jeff? The least you can do is read Abanes' book before making any judgments. I read Warren's book, Abanes' book, and the critics of the book. I've...
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Jeff
jthomas899
Aug 10, 2005 2:52 am
I don't need to waste money on Abanes' book. I have listen to about 100 sermons by Warren. My main problem is he abuses Scriptures by taking them out of...
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Sistrbride@...
leanne_otero
Aug 10, 2005 3:46 am
In a message dated 8/9/2005 11:02:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, coolguy247365@... writes: So, what, Jeff? The least you can do is read Abanes' book...
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Corey W
coolguy247365
Aug 10, 2005 6:15 am
Unfriendly tone? I didn't insult anybody, Sisterbride. And if I did offend anybody can you please point out where I did. Corey ... Yahoo! Mail Stay connected,...
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Douglas Mixer
mixers2
Aug 10, 2005 1:27 pm
Just to clear the air a little... I have read both the Purpose Driven Church and the Purpose Driven Life. In both of those books, Warren had some really good...
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Eric Vagle
evrom828
Aug 10, 2005 1:35 pm
What is the true gospel? God bless, Eric ... From: pipertalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pipertalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Mixer Sent: Wednesday,...
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Douglas Mixer
mixers2
Aug 10, 2005 1:45 pm
I would imagine that the true gospel is found in the Bible. Rick Warren's "sinner's prayer" in chapter 7 of PDL and the accompanying paragraphs that I quoted...
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Eric Vagle
evrom828
Aug 10, 2005 1:55 pm
Sincerely asking, do we have a record of Jesus or the apostles, or anybody else for that matter giving a "gospel presentation" that includes all of the...
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Douglas Mixer
mixers2
Aug 10, 2005 2:14 pm
If we compile the message that Jesus taught in all the gospels, yes we do have a record of the gospel that includes all the information from Rom. 1-11. Jesus...
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Moe
webdesigner.rm
Aug 10, 2005 2:48 pm
Dear Pipertalkers, This is just a reminder for all who post to this list. Please do your very best to maintain the love of Christ even with those you may have...
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Jack Curson
jdcurson
Aug 10, 2005 2:54 pm
I am in Hope that my comments on this board did not lead to this dialog. I was just pointing out what I thought to be a little bit of deconstructive posting....
