Dear friends, I have been pondering these two simplistic questions over the last week: 1. What keeps the true-believer coming back to God after they have...
My quick stab: First question answer is obviously 'God' himself at deeper levels (God is the cause of everything of course at the ultimate level, God's Spirit...
In response to question 1 all I can say is grace, grace and more grace. Rom 9:16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy....
[Steve wrote] First question answer is obviously 'God' himself at deeper levels (God is the cause of everything of course at the ultimate level, God's Spirit...
Rod, I agree that your views on God's grace in respect to salvation are Biblical but I don't think you can support your position on God and evil biblically....
Aaron, Thanks for the encouragement to read Piper. I have the book and have read and re-read the chapter you mention. I do not find Piper, nor the Bible saying...
I'm sorry Rod. I wasn't paying enough attention to what you said. Yes, I fully agree with you. Aaron ... have read and re-read the chapter you mention. I do...
Hi Rod, How is Rick Warren's programs doing for your church? I have kind of given up explaining my issues about Rick Warren to people, even when they initiate...
Come on. He didn't ignore it. Warren spends an entire paragraph boiling down Romans 1-11 into a nifty little prayer ;-) Doug On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 08:45:02...
Hi Doug! I have given away the PDL book and thrown away the smallgroup workgroup. :P Care to referesh my memory? As far as Romans 12:1,2 is concerned, I only...
On page 58 (Chapter 7 - The Reason for Everything), he actually spends two paragraphs on his version of the gospel. We are to first believe that God loves us...
Hi Doug, "his version of the gospel" - how can you say that about the America's Pastor, the one on whom God has given the keys of the Kingdom so that your...
Dear Friends, Some times when we bait our brothers, the trap we set, often comes back to bite us! I am not going to enter into a sarcastic (flesh-tearing)...
["How is Rick Warren's programs doing for your church?"] First, It was a good launch pad for our small groups. Our church did not have small groups meeting...
It was a reply to help you think of that question. Do you know the mind of God? What an excellent question! I would tend to believe that we are giving the...
Hi guys, Just to let you know, personally, I think it's a little unfair how some people within the Christian community have been treating Rick Warren. When I...
Corey, I concur. I certainly don't agree with everything Rick Warren says or does, but I've found his books helpful on some points. I prefer discussions of a...
Richard Abnes is of course unbias (NOT!) He was a member and maybe on staff at Saddleback. Jeff Corey W <coolguy247365@...> wrote: Hi guys, Just to let...
So, what, Jeff? The least you can do is read Abanes' book before making any judgments. I read Warren's book, Abanes' book, and the critics of the book. I've...
I don't need to waste money on Abanes' book. I have listen to about 100 sermons by Warren. My main problem is he abuses Scriptures by taking them out of...
In a message dated 8/9/2005 11:02:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, coolguy247365@... writes: So, what, Jeff? The least you can do is read Abanes' book...
Unfriendly tone? I didn't insult anybody, Sisterbride. And if I did offend anybody can you please point out where I did. Corey ... Yahoo! Mail Stay connected,...
Just to clear the air a little... I have read both the Purpose Driven Church and the Purpose Driven Life. In both of those books, Warren had some really good...
What is the true gospel? God bless, Eric ... From: pipertalk@yahoogroups.com [mailto:pipertalk@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Mixer Sent: Wednesday,...
I would imagine that the true gospel is found in the Bible. Rick Warren's "sinner's prayer" in chapter 7 of PDL and the accompanying paragraphs that I quoted...
Sincerely asking, do we have a record of Jesus or the apostles, or anybody else for that matter giving a "gospel presentation" that includes all of the...
If we compile the message that Jesus taught in all the gospels, yes we do have a record of the gospel that includes all the information from Rom. 1-11. Jesus...
Dear Pipertalkers, This is just a reminder for all who post to this list. Please do your very best to maintain the love of Christ even with those you may have...
I am in Hope that my comments on this board did not lead to this dialog. I was just pointing out what I thought to be a little bit of deconstructive posting....
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