Hi Joe!
Hi all!

This is Renata speaking, but I can assure you I have nothing to do
with the Prokofiev's "Fire Angel" Joe Johnson…; no arrangements at
all…between the two of us...

I just want to say one thing about "The War SONATAS" and to ask
anyone who might know about how to become a GROUP-moderator, and if
one can moderate a Yahoo-group `targeting' someone who's still alive.
What rules should be in a MODERATOR's mind, etc…

I'll tell you who I'm referring to the next e-mail if you want!

The first consideration I would like to do was about a the 8 th
Sonata.
I have studied each sections , I'd say rather well, because I have
felt that Music as a reflexion of my own life in the past. (In
another context obviously; I mean with no political and social
oppression but other kind of oppression as well as everyone does
feel in his Life on a higher or lower stage, I presume.

I have then written a short work about it. It took me 18 days,
albeit but I've done only 166 revisions.

I've ended it one year ago. It was like a "MISSION" to me having
realized such work. And in fact, it was no work at all.
It has been just pleasure; and, after having stopped my 8th Sonata
auditions, because I got a little "tired" of it, I began hearing it
again through a new perspective a few months ago.
I find it the most intricate Piano piece ever written and the "most
expressive story" ever composed.

It really is a life-story I think.
In fact it has crossed my mind to try to make a kind of analysis
between that sonata and Kafka's books - because I `ve found very
interesting that comment of Gavrilovs in which he said that
" he thought that the key to understand that Sonata was perhaps on
F. Kafka's key faces". More or less like this.

But then I thought, way in heaven should I do such analysis, it
should drives anyone's mind crazy!

What is interesting to notice is that D. Shostakovich who had envied
Prokofiev all his life and discredited his work as well,- as a
matter of fact he, Shostakovich was very mean to everyone as far as
I'm concerned-, has `surrended' to his compatriot's geniality at
that particular point - when the
8 th Sonata was written.

It is not a structured and methodical musical analysis, because that
was not my really intention.
I have only heard PLETNEV's performance which I didn't really
apprecciate much.
Richter's, I still haven't got the pleasure to know it! But I think
it must be very good also.

I'll be very glad to 'hear' any 'musical-text' from you!

My BEST
Renata
~Lisbon, 24th October 2001





--- In prokofiev@y..., Joe Johnson <jnjohnson2@y...> wrote:
> I bought the Revelation disc of the Richter
> performances of the War Sonatas because it was the
> only source I was aware of that combined all three on
> one disc. I imagine that there may be recordings with
> Richter in these works from various venues (I was
> unable to link to your review on my computer to check
> if they are the same). It would be interesting to
> hear what, if any, interperative differences there are
> if other recordings exist.
> The Revelation label was only around for a short time
> and issued some very interesting recordings (on what
> other label can you hear Britten's Spring Symphony in
> Russian?), including some Prokofiev.
> Sorry to hear about your boyfriend. Perhaps during
> your November trip you'll discover some interesting
> Prokofiev recordings. Then all you have to do is find
> someone new to make copies for you!
>
> --- K <koszka78@h...> wrote:
> > I don't know what disc the sonatas come from: they
> > could be from the
> > BMG/Melodiya release, as they're on a CD that was
> > copied for me by my
> > English ex-boyfriend. But as I remember it they
> > were a compilation
> > of the sonatas from different sources (I can't
> > remember the sources,
> > so that won't do much good). My review of the disc
> > is at
> >
> http://www.eccentrix.com/music/prokofiev/reviews/35.html
> > , and it
> > contains more information about the time of the
> > recordings if that's
> > at all helpful.
> >
> > Yes, I did have a source for the dozens of
> > Europe-only Prokofiev
> > releases, but, unfortunately, as I said, he is now
> > an ex-boyfriend.
> > Not through my own desire, though: I wouldn't ever
> > give something
> > like that up!
> >
> > And you aren't alone. . .
> > -K
> >
> >
> > --- In prokofiev@y..., Joe Johnson <jnjohnson2@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Was the Richter recording the one of all three War
> > > Sonatas on Revelation?
> >
> > > I believe that in England the Rozhdestvensky
> > > recordings of the Prokofiev Symphonies, made in
> > the
> > > 60s with the USSR State Radio Symphony or whatever
> > it
> > > was called, are available on BMG/Melodiya CDs.
> > For
> > > some reason, these were never released in the U.S.
> >
> > > The same recordings were available briefly in the
> > U.S.
> > > on a different label (Consonance) in absolutely
> > > dreadful sounding transfers. So you presumably
> > have a
> > > chance to pick them up in dencent sounding
> > masterings.
> > > Am I alone in lamenting the fact that
> > Rozhdestvensky
> > > has not re-recorded the Prokofiev symphonies with
> > a
> > > world class orchestra in modern sound?
> > >
> > > <koszka78@h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All's well with your humble moderatix: I was
> > nowhere
> > > > near either the
> > > > WTC building or the Pentagon as I tend to live
> > West
> > > > of the Rocky
> > > > Mountains in the city with the worst reputation
> > in
> > > > the state I happen
> > > > to be in (Ogden is to Utah as Tacoma is to
> > > > Washington: an extremely
> > > > unsightly, Meth-addled, and crime-ridden
> > blemish.)
> > > > Speaking of
> > > > location: I've moved back home to Tacoma.
> > Right
> > > > now I'm unemployed
> > > > and courting a security guard who has 34 years
> > on
> > > > me. I plan to
> > > > travel to the UK in November sometime. Any
> > > > recommendations on where
> > > > to go, besides the Prokofiev Archive? Should I
> > even
> > > > bother with the
> > > > Prokofiev Archive, as I'm not a scholar and Ms.
> > Mann
> > > > (I hope I'm
> > > > getting that name right or else all is lost)
> > will
> > > > probably assume
> > > > that I'm there in order to steal something after
> > > > taking one look at
> > > > me? Before anyone makes any travel
> > suggestions,
> > > > keep in mind that I
> > > > have almost no money, get nervous around crowds,
> > and
> > > > have no culture
> > > > whatsoever. Recommendations for squats, sofas I
> > can
> > > > sleep on, and
> > > > places to buy the complete catalog of CDs by The
> > > > Fall will be most
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > For some reason, the group doesn't feel as
> > personal
> > > > to me anymore,
> > > > which is why I put off writing anything about my
> > > > life until it was
> > > > hinted at. I probably won't have regular access
> > to
> > > > a computer after
> > > > about a month, which would throw a wrench into
> > the
> > > > works of a group
> > > > that had more than 3 posts a month. Lucky for
> > us,
> > > > we keep to
> > > > ourselves.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Prokofiev news: I listened to the War
> > Sonatas as
> > > > played by
> > > > Richter, and he still kicks everyone else out on
> > > > their ass
> > > > consistently and with flair.
> > > >
> > > > -K
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In prokofiev@y..., "Daniel Jaffé"
> > > > <danieljaffe@m...> wrote:
> > > > > Thanks for that info, Fernando: definitely
> > sounds
> > > > as if it's worth
> > > > checking
> > > > > out.
> > > > >
> > > > > K, hope all's well with you and yours.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > >From: "Fernando Higa" <fhiga@v...>
> > > > > >To: <prokofiev@y...>
> > > > > >Subject: [prokofiev] Film Score Monthly
> > > > > >Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2001, 4:40 pm
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Checking some soundtrack sites, I found this
> > > > issue of Film
> > > > > > Score Monthly Number 5, which features on
> > the
> > > > cover a
> > > > > > review of the works of Sergei Prokofiev on
> > > > films.
> > > > > > It dedicates 8 pages for this article and
> > shows
> > > > some
> > > > > > interesting notes, like Prokofiev that Peter
> > and
> > > > the Wolf
> > > > > > was composed to Disney.
> > > > > > A great effort.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > > Fernando
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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