> Thank you, I took a quick look but didn't make it past the
> description, as I don't embrace digital media as they do. In fact I
> believe it was the end of sonic reality for all time. I got dragged
> kicking and screaming into CD's much later than anyone else got them,
> and while unfamiliar music sounds striking when digitized, the music
> I listened to over and over in my youth is clearly missing something
> when reduced to digital media.

I don't know if I agree or not with your take on digital media (all media
currently anyway has it's problems) but you ought to go to the forums and
look at "Legacy MultiChannel Sound & Systems", if you didn't get that far.

> semiconductors. I'm not crazy about logic circuits either, because
> the steering does not exist in the source material, it is added. When

I agree there, but I always felt it was a reasonable compromise for trying
to get 4 channels from 2. I'll take descrete any day.

> Superscope by Marantz was extremely high quality at the end, but no
> QS, and the revised non-logic SQ that had the blend resistor to
> increase front-to back separation was very ineffective in actual use.

I have a Superscope and agree 100%, I left it in 2 channel parallel most
of the time for non-descrete listening.

> But today all the phase manipulation that places sounds outside the
> physical speaker placement probably makes everything from movies to
> commercials fair game for a 70's era decoder - you guys would know
> more about that than me. All I know is I want pre-IC audio, I want to
> hear LP's through a Shure cartridge again, and if it also gives an
> interesting effect with movies and DVD's that will be fun.

I'm close to being on the same page as you, but for different reasons. I
felt that spending money on fancy new decoders or a reciever with
something built in was a lot of cost for little gain. I didn't want to
get a new reciever because I have so many nice vintage ones, I could never
use them all as it is. Plus, you'll never find things like a quad tape
loop on something new. I listen to quad reel from time to time, Q8s a
little less often, and some day will unbox my CD-4 hardware. Most of my
listening is to DVD-A discs... I know it probably won't make a difference,
but they do have much better resolution than CD. I've been surprised at
how descrete my Sansui matrix decoder sounds, for something with no
steering logic, and using CDs as a source that have no surround incoding
method marked on the label.

Dan