John, I don't have any quad material to trade, but I'm willing to do whatever it
takes to get good DTS copies of quad releases. I'm looking into getting several
items, notably the Santana and Moody Blues releases. What do you have? Or
anybody else, what do you have in rock quad releases?

John Dunkerley <nascarsux02@...> wrote:          I transfer all my quad
stuff (Q8s, LPS) to DTS. The only way to go! Anyone wanna trade, email me!

Dan Olson <dano@...> wrote: I'd phrase it a little differently, if
you want to transfer to digital
media, go with DTS (or DVD-A is an option now too). I personally love
quad reel transfers too, and would love to have a Q8 recorder some day! :)

Dan

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Pablo Roufogalis L. wrote:

> If you are not a vinyl/vintage freak, I suggest you stick to DTS transfers.
>
> At 12:51 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>> Also try www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear,
>> records, tapes, etc. There is a high demand, but when you find that
>> gem, there is a high reward.
>
>
>
>
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I transfer all my quad stuff (Q8s, LPS) to DTS. The only way to go! Anyone wanna
trade, email me!

Dan Olson <dano@...> wrote:          I'd phrase it a little
differently, if you want to transfer to digital
media, go with DTS (or DVD-A is an option now too). I personally love
quad reel transfers too, and would love to have a Q8 recorder some day! :)

Dan

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Pablo Roufogalis L. wrote:

> If you are not a vinyl/vintage freak, I suggest you stick to DTS transfers.
>
> At 12:51 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>> Also try www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear,
>> records, tapes, etc. There is a high demand, but when you find that
>> gem, there is a high reward.
>
>
>
>
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>
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I'd phrase it a little differently, if you want to transfer to digital
media, go with DTS (or DVD-A is an option now too).  I personally love
quad reel transfers too, and would love to have a Q8 recorder some day! :)

 	 Dan


On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Pablo Roufogalis L. wrote:

> If you are not a vinyl/vintage freak, I suggest you stick to DTS transfers.
>
> At 12:51 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>> Also try www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear,
>> records, tapes, etc. There is a high demand, but when you find that
>> gem, there is a high reward.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

If you are not a vinyl/vintage freak, I suggest you stick to DTS transfers.

At 12:51 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>Also try www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear,
>records, tapes, etc. There is a high demand, but when you find that
>gem, there is a high reward.

If you are not a vinyl/vintage freak, I suggest you stick to DTS transfers.

At 12:51 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>Also try www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear,
>records, tapes, etc. There is a high demand, but when you find that
>gem, there is a high reward.

If you are not a vinyl/vintage freak, I suggest you stick to DTS transfers.

At 12:51 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>Also try www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear,
>records, tapes, etc. There is a high demand, but when you find that
>gem, there is a high reward.

If you are not a vinyl/vintage freak, I suggest you stick to DTS transfers.

At 12:51 PM 3/28/2007, you wrote:
>Also try www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear,
>records, tapes, etc. There is a high demand, but when you find that
>gem, there is a high reward.

I would like to add a few things. First, you need to know DTS does not decode
any quad source. It is an encoder to encode surround information. You must have
a DVD player with DTS capability (noted on your player front, or in your manual)
to played these DTS encoded discs. The transfer from Quad to DTS is a process
that I myself use. If you are just after Quad LPs to CD, SQ and QS (matrix Quad)
can be decoded to surround using a Dolby Pro Logic decoder on home DVD payers. I
have an LG DVD  surround sound unit, and there are many available brands out
there, but you can also buy a seperate receiver and surround system with Pro
Logic decoder to play your DVD player through.
       CD4 LPs are trickier, one reason I don't like them as much. CD4 LP to CD
wouldn't be able to be decoded in this way. If the signal is intact and you have
a demodulator, assuming the stylus used was a Microline or Shibata, it would
still demodulate thru a Quad system with the four discrete signals. Those are
prefered to be tranferred from the original Quad to DTS by someone like myself
who has the equipment, but can be enjoyed by anyone who has a DTS DVD player,
which in this day and age is easier obviously to come by. It is well worth it to
have someone convert them for you in the long run, unless like me, you enjoy
doing the conversion work and have all the equipment and time.
        Remember to keep in mind that the LP formats are generally not
compatible, and most decoders and demodulators are not equal, let alone on the
same unit. meaning, if you have a Sony SQ receiver, it will not decode or
demodulate CD4 LPS. Looking for one with all the major formats in one receiver
is possible, but expensive (for good ones, like Sansui). Through trial and
error, I have found what works for me, as far as Quad equipment goes.
        www.quadraphonicquad.com is a good forum to check out. Also try
www.ebay.com when you are ready to dive in to Quad gear, records, tapes, etc.
There is a high demand, but when you find that gem, there is a high reward.

                                                                                        
John Dunkerley
                                                                                   
Saratoga, Wyoming

Dave Nightingale <dnght734@...> wrote:
            sappreciate your help.

Dan, is Tab Peterson the Tab you refer to ? He is one of the sources I located
who can record quad albums onto CD. It's good to hear some feedback on him, if
indeed, it is him who you refer to. Also Dan, thanks for recommending I try SACD
& DVD-A. I already have several of each, but it was good of you to mention.

I do have a question regarding The Moody Blues SACDs. I wonder if anybody has In
Search of the Lost Chord. I bought it when it came out, but I didn't listen to
it until recently. It is supposed to be surround sound, but I have tried it on
both my players that play SACDs and the disc plays, but I can't get the suround
sound. Has anybody else experienced this problem with thier copy?

THANKS,
Dave

Dan Olson <dano@...> wrote:
Hi, and welcome.

> Hello guys, I'm new here, and I'm also a relative newbie to Quad in
> general. I'm in the research stage of getting a quad system and albums,
> and I have a couple questions. I see there are several different kinds
> of Quad albums available (SQ, QS, CD-4) Can I play any & all Quad
> albums on any and all quad systems? Or do I need to get a different
> sytem for each kind of LP?

I don't know if I'd use the word "system" because you can get integrated
or as seperate components. Each record format needs a matching decoder
(or "demodulator" in the case of CD-4). Some recievers have decoders for
one or more format built in, otherwise you can add as many as you like
externally. Note also that ProLogic II does a very good job SQ and works
good for QS as well (someone correct me if I have that backwards).

> I have also come across a couple people who say they can transfer Quad
> albums over to CD, and those CDs will provide the Quad sound when
> played through a newer system using DTS surround sound. Does anybody
> know anything about that?

I have a number of those discs done by Tab, and am very happy with them.
The advantage of this is that someone else buys the albums and the
playback equipment, which is usually the best available, so the CD
transfer usually turns out better than the origional on the average quad
collector's equipment.

These might be considered by you to be simple
> questions (and, hopefully they are) but as I said, I'm just getting
> started so any help will be greatly appreciated.

No problem, hope this helps. You might look into DVD-Audio and SACD
(while they're still being sold) too if you haven't already.

Dan

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>  Dan, is Tab Peterson the Tab you refer to ? He is one of the sources I
> located who can record quad albums onto CD. It's good to hear some
> feedback on him, if indeed, it is him who you refer to. Also Dan, thanks
> for recommending I try SACD & DVD-A. I already have several of each, but
> it was good of you to mention.

Yes, it is.  Personally, I got a JVC player with the DTS decoder built in,
which I have connected to my Sansui quad reciever.  This allows me to
change between a DVD-A, one of Tab's discs, or a plain old CD or DVD,
without a single change on the reciever (though I would probably use
matrix decoding vs. descrete for 2 channel material).

>  I do have a question regarding The Moody Blues SACDs. I wonder if
> anybody has In Search of the Lost Chord. I bought it when it came out,
> but I didn't listen to it until recently. It is supposed to be surround
> sound, but I have tried it on both my players that play SACDs and the
> disc plays, but I can't get the suround sound. Has anybody else
> experienced this problem with thier copy?

I don't have a SACD player so can't help here, but would suggest
www.quadraphonicquad.com, there are many threads on the various discs
currently available, with a ton of this valuable information.  Hope that
helps!

 	 Dan

Thank you to the three gentlemen who responded to my questions. I received
helpful info from each response and I greatly appreciate your help.

   Dan, is Tab Peterson the Tab you refer to ? He is one of the sources I located
who can record quad albums onto CD. It's good to hear some feedback on him, if
indeed, it is him who you refer to. Also Dan, thanks for recommending I try SACD
& DVD-A. I already have several of each, but it was good of you to mention.

   I do have a question regarding The Moody Blues SACDs. I wonder if anybody has
In Search of the Lost Chord. I bought it when it came out, but I didn't listen
to it until recently. It is supposed to be surround sound, but I have tried it
on both my players that play SACDs and the disc plays, but I can't get the
suround sound. Has anybody else experienced this problem with thier copy?

   THANKS,
   Dave

Dan Olson <dano@...> wrote:
           Hi, and welcome.

> Hello guys, I'm new here, and I'm also a relative newbie to Quad in
> general. I'm in the research stage of getting a quad system and albums,
> and I have a couple questions. I see there are several different kinds
> of Quad albums available (SQ, QS, CD-4) Can I play any & all Quad
> albums on any and all quad systems? Or do I need to get a different
> sytem for each kind of LP?

I don't know if I'd use the word "system" because you can get integrated
or as seperate components. Each record format needs a matching decoder
(or "demodulator" in the case of CD-4). Some recievers have decoders for
one or more format built in, otherwise you can add as many as you like
externally. Note also that ProLogic II does a very good job SQ and works
good for QS as well (someone correct me if I have that backwards).

> I have also come across a couple people who say they can transfer Quad
> albums over to CD, and those CDs will provide the Quad sound when
> played through a newer system using DTS surround sound. Does anybody
> know anything about that?

I have a number of those discs done by Tab, and am very happy with them.
The advantage of this is that someone else buys the albums and the
playback equipment, which is usually the best available, so the CD
transfer usually turns out better than the origional on the average quad
collector's equipment.

These might be considered by you to be simple
> questions (and, hopefully they are) but as I said, I'm just getting
> started so any help will be greatly appreciated.

No problem, hope this helps. You might look into DVD-Audio and SACD
(while they're still being sold) too if you haven't already.

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Hi, and welcome.

> Hello guys, I'm new here, and I'm also a relative newbie to Quad in
> general. I'm in the research stage of getting a quad system and albums,
> and I have a couple questions. I see there are several different kinds
> of Quad albums available (SQ, QS, CD-4) Can I play any & all Quad
> albums on any and all quad systems? Or do I need to get a different
> sytem for each kind of LP?

I don't know if I'd use the word "system" because you can get integrated
or as seperate components.  Each record format needs a matching decoder
(or "demodulator" in the case of CD-4).  Some recievers have decoders for
one or more format built in, otherwise you can add as many as you like
externally.  Note also that ProLogic II does a very good job SQ and works
good for QS as well (someone correct me if I have that backwards).

> I have also come across a couple people who say they can transfer Quad
> albums over to CD, and those CDs will provide the Quad sound when
> played through a newer system using DTS surround sound. Does anybody
> know anything about that?

I have a number of those discs done by Tab, and am very happy with them.
The advantage of this is that someone else buys the albums and the
playback equipment, which is usually the best available, so the CD
transfer usually turns out better than the origional on the average quad
collector's equipment.

   These might be considered by you to be simple
> questions (and, hopefully they are) but as I said, I'm just getting
> started so any help will be greatly appreciated.

No problem, hope this helps.  You might look into DVD-Audio and SACD
(while they're still being sold) too if you haven't already.

 	 Dan

You can do a Google search for "quadraphonic
discography", which will lead you here:
http://members.cox.net/surround/quaddisc/quadindx.htm

As for more on quad LP's, head over to
QuadraphonicQuad.com.

p.e.a.c.e.
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--- Dave Nightingale <dnght734@...> wrote:
> Does anybody know of a website that lists all the
> Quad albums ever released?



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Hello guys, I'm new here, and I'm also a relative newbie to Quad in
general. I'm in the research stage of getting a quad system and albums,
and I have a couple questions. I see there are several different kinds
of Quad albums available (SQ, QS, CD-4) Can I play any & all Quad
albums on any and all quad systems? Or do I need to get a different
sytem for each kind of LP?

I have also come across a couple people who say they can transfer Quad
albums over to CD, and those CDs will provide the Quad sound when
played through a newer system using DTS surround sound. Does anybody
know anything about that? These might be considered by you to be simple
questions (and, hopefully they are) but as I said, I'm just getting
started so any help will be greatly appreciated.
THANKS

I went from thinking CD's weren't as good as properly handled old
analog to finding CD resolution, in comparison to dts, DVD-A and
SACD, to be so low as to be not worth it, without any intervening
phase of thinking CD's were wonderful. I can't tell the difference
between a CD that his been well ripped to VBR or 320 MP3, or aac+
for that matter, and the CD itself, so I also see CD format as kind
of wasted space in the digital domain.

I feel kind of sorry for it, as it goes the way of the cassette, the
LP, the R2R, the 8-track....each new format gets to enjoy a victory
as it destroys and obliterates previous media, despite their
wonderful aspects, but it's a hollow victory, and soon the suffer
the same fate, and yet again, people are forced to shell out x
percentage of their weekly income to buy yet another copy of Dark
Side of the Moon, when there was never anything wrong with the
original album they bought back in 1973 and when you threw in the
two posters that came with it....

I still listen to everything, including 78's. I like to hear
something new, something special. Last night I was experimenting
with the sound of a Caruso 78 in a large long room with 15' ceiling.
The bass reverberated and added an extra dimension. I also love
feeding old stereo stuff into various matrices, and of course PL-II,
which I still think is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

I highly recommend Queen II on vinyl, which sounds more "discrete-y"
than many discrete mixes I could name. But at the same time, I
recognize the absolute wonderfulness of Blue Man Group _Audio_ in
5.1, or the live 5.1 mixes on the newish Kraftwerk live DVD. Even
CD's have a place in my world, and whenever a medium dies, I snap up
the older ones I've always wanted (or always wanted to try) for
pennies on the dollar.

--- In quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com,
"mrheavy_2000" <mrheavy_2000@...> wrote:
>
> I asked about this on the yahoo group Black_Sabbath & was advised
they
> are on emule.  But I don't know if they would be MP3 files or not.
> Let us know if this is a viable source if you can find this out.  I
> only have crappy dialup service, so I wont mess with trying to find
it.
>

I had that thing on a Quad 8-track.


They were wrong to think discrete on automotive media would be senior
to matrix on home media

> Thank you, I took a quick look but didn't make it past the
> description, as I don't embrace digital media as they do. In fact I
> believe it was the end of sonic reality for all time. I got dragged
> kicking and screaming into CD's much later than anyone else got them,
> and while unfamiliar music sounds striking when digitized, the music
> I listened to over and over in my youth is clearly missing something
> when reduced to digital media.

I don't know if I agree or not with your take on digital media (all media
currently anyway has it's problems) but you ought to go to the forums and
look at "Legacy MultiChannel Sound & Systems", if you didn't get that far.

> semiconductors. I'm not crazy about logic circuits either, because
> the steering does not exist in the source material, it is added. When

I agree there, but I always felt it was a reasonable compromise for trying
to get 4 channels from 2.  I'll take descrete any day.

> Superscope by Marantz was extremely high quality at the end, but no
> QS, and the revised non-logic SQ that had the blend resistor to
> increase front-to back separation was very ineffective in actual use.

I have a Superscope and agree 100%, I left it in 2 channel parallel most
of the time for non-descrete listening.

> But today all the phase manipulation that places sounds outside the
> physical speaker placement probably makes everything from movies to
> commercials fair game for a 70's era decoder - you guys would know
> more about that than me. All I know is I want pre-IC audio, I want to
> hear LP's through a Shure cartridge again, and if it also gives an
> interesting effect with movies and DVD's that will be fun.

I'm close to being on the same page as you, but for different reasons.  I
felt that spending money on fancy new decoders or a reciever with
something built in was a lot of cost for little gain.  I didn't want to
get a new reciever because I have so many nice vintage ones, I could never
use them all as it is.  Plus, you'll never find things like a quad tape
loop on something new.  I listen to quad reel from time to time, Q8s a
little less often, and some day will unbox my CD-4 hardware.  Most of my
listening is to DVD-A discs... I know it probably won't make a difference,
but they do have much better resolution than CD.  I've been surprised at
how descrete my Sansui matrix decoder sounds, for something with no
steering logic, and using CDs as a source that have no surround incoding
method marked on the label.

 	 Dan

--- In quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com, Dan Olson <dano@...> wrote:
> it might be worth checking out quadraphonicquad.com, I
> haven't been there in a while, but the forums are usually the best
place
> for quad discussion.

Thank you, I took a quick look but didn't make it past the
description, as I don't embrace digital media as they do. In fact I
believe it was the end of sonic reality for all time. I got dragged
kicking and screaming into CD's much later than anyone else got them,
and while unfamiliar music sounds striking when digitized, the music
I listened to over and over in my youth is clearly missing something
when reduced to digital media. This was a shock for me, because I was
used to reading articles debating whether or not the difference
between digital and analogue is actually detectable as though they
were very close or something. I don't understand this, the difference
seems very noticeable to me. Ruling out the tube era I feel solid
state audio peaked immediately prior to the adoption of integrated
circuits, probably the year that AM radio sections ONLY were being
replaced by dedicated IC's but the rest of the rig was still discreet
semiconductors. I'm not crazy about logic circuits either, because
the steering does not exist in the source material, it is added. When
I got nostalgic for Quad I had to determine what I wanted to buy. The
highly respected Pioneer rigs are said to have crappy decoders and
for some reason they are the poster child for 'repair' websites. On
the other hand the highly respected Sansui's are said to have
dreadful SQ sound. The complaints on these two don't pertain to
'seperation' but to sound quality with the competitor's format,
that's what caught my attention. So I wanted a different brand.
Superscope by Marantz was extremely high quality at the end, but no
QS, and the revised non-logic SQ that had the blend resistor to
increase front-to back separation was very ineffective in actual use.
And anybody with a joystick balance knows it's completely stupid when
diagonally opposite channels both need a boost. So when I spotted the
Toshiba with SQ, QS, no logic, no joystick, I spent more than I
really wanted to because good luck finding an alternative with my
spectrum of biases lol. I used to feel cheated that I never got my
hands on an EV decoder since Len Feldman's book made a very good case
for it vs SQ and QS, but last week while googling I became aware that
Realistic(Radio Shack)"Stereo-4" was actually the EV matrix, and I
never used it because it had that hollow crappy L-R sound! I'd still
like to hear their revised "Universal Matrix Decoder", but I'm not
clear on how a regular matrix like EV was closer to the SQ Phase
Matrix than QS regular matrix??? Irrational pairing. I suspect I'm
not missing much since there's almost nothing on the web.

But today all the phase manipulation that places sounds outside the
physical speaker placement probably makes everything from movies to
commercials fair game for a 70's era decoder - you guys would know
more about that than me. All I know is I want pre-IC audio, I want to
hear LP's through a Shure cartridge again, and if it also gives an
interesting effect with movies and DVD's that will be fun.

Just speaking for myself, I didn't loose interest in Quad so much, but
gained interest in newer media (plug other projects that leave a very
small slice of time for music).  Pro-Logic II has made passive decoding
moot in many ways, or least in my opinion.  On the other hand, I have had
very good luck running newer CDs through the decoder in my Sansui, which
has no steering logic.  I'm still hopeful (though I don't know why at this
point) that DVD-A will take off some day, I'm currently getting a DVD
player for my car (no screen, DVD-V only) and am still slowly trying to
phase in DVD-A in place of CD for new purchases, where possible.  Just my
2 cents worth, it might be worth checking out quadraphonicquad.com, I
haven't been there in a while, but the forums are usually the best place
for quad discussion.

 	 Dan


On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, magnus_ai5 wrote:

> Anyone still following Quad? I noticed most forum's last posts were
> in 2003-2004, so I'm assuming some sort of surround processor for
> video came out and made the topic moot or something. Pity. I have a
> couple of topics that might have been interesting years ago. First,
> is there any real reason why a passive quad adapter couldn't be
> proportioned to the correct parameters for QS/R-matrix? And second,
> isn't it possible to modify early gain-riding or variomatrix boards
> to specifically enhance stereo-to-quad ambience extractors? In
> particular it seems like mating the SQ "Rear Channel Vari-Blend" to
> Regular Matrix would be great for that. Especially now that most
> regular stereo has phasing effects to expand the apparent sound
> source beyond the actual physical location of the speakers.
>
> My questions come ten or twenty years too late I know.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

I don't have the link on this computer but if you go to this sites home page
it has a link for it . Just look around for it it's there somewhere !? Or do a
google ... and it should pop up.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: magnus_ai5@...
  To: quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 1:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [Quadraphonic Quad] Hi I just joined

      --- In quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com, allaroundsuround@... wrote:
  >
  > Go to the Quad and Surround site all have moved there!

  What site would that be? :)

  > Newman may check in but most use the other site.
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: magnus_ai5@...
  > To: quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 1:19 AM
  > Subject: [Quadraphonic Quad] Hi I just joined
  >
  > Anyone still following Quad? I noticed most forum's last posts
  were
  > in 2003-2004, so I'm assuming some sort of surround processor for
  > video came out and made the topic moot or something. Pity. I have
  a
  > couple of topics that might have been interesting years ago.
  First,
  > is there any real reason why a passive quad adapter couldn't be
  > proportioned to the correct parameters for QS/R-matrix? And
  second,
  > isn't it possible to modify early gain-riding or variomatrix
  boards
  > to specifically enhance stereo-to-quad ambience extractors? In
  > particular it seems like mating the SQ "Rear Channel Vari-Blend"
  to
  > Regular Matrix would be great for that. Especially now that most
  > regular stereo has phasing effects to expand the apparent sound
  > source beyond the actual physical location of the speakers.
  >
  > My questions come ten or twenty years too late I know.
  >
  >
  >
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--- In quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com, allaroundsuround@... wrote:
>
>  Go to the Quad and Surround site all have moved there!


What site would that be?  :)








>  Newman may check in but most use the other site.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: magnus_ai5@...
>  To: quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 1:19 AM
>  Subject: [Quadraphonic Quad] Hi I just joined
>
>      Anyone still following Quad? I noticed most forum's last posts
were
>  in 2003-2004, so I'm assuming some sort of surround processor for
>  video came out and made the topic moot or something. Pity. I have
a
>  couple of topics that might have been interesting years ago.
First,
>  is there any real reason why a passive quad adapter couldn't be
>  proportioned to the correct parameters for QS/R-matrix? And
second,
>  isn't it possible to modify early gain-riding or variomatrix
boards
>  to specifically enhance stereo-to-quad ambience extractors? In
>  particular it seems like mating the SQ "Rear Channel Vari-Blend"
to
>  Regular Matrix would be great for that. Especially now that most
>  regular stereo has phasing effects to expand the apparent sound
>  source beyond the actual physical location of the speakers.
>
>  My questions come ten or twenty years too late I know.
>
>
>
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Go to the Quad and Surround site all have moved there!
  Newman may check in but most use the other site.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: magnus_ai5@...
  To: quadraphonicquad@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 1:19 AM
  Subject: [Quadraphonic Quad] Hi I just joined

      Anyone still following Quad? I noticed most forum's last posts were
  in 2003-2004, so I'm assuming some sort of surround processor for
  video came out and made the topic moot or something. Pity. I have a
  couple of topics that might have been interesting years ago. First,
  is there any real reason why a passive quad adapter couldn't be
  proportioned to the correct parameters for QS/R-matrix? And second,
  isn't it possible to modify early gain-riding or variomatrix boards
  to specifically enhance stereo-to-quad ambience extractors? In
  particular it seems like mating the SQ "Rear Channel Vari-Blend" to
  Regular Matrix would be great for that. Especially now that most
  regular stereo has phasing effects to expand the apparent sound
  source beyond the actual physical location of the speakers.

  My questions come ten or twenty years too late I know.


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Anyone still following Quad? I noticed most forum's last posts were
in 2003-2004, so I'm assuming some sort of surround processor for
video came out and made the topic moot or something. Pity. I have a
couple of topics that might have been interesting years ago. First,
is there any real reason why a passive quad adapter couldn't be
proportioned to the correct parameters for QS/R-matrix? And second,
isn't it possible to modify early gain-riding or variomatrix boards
to specifically enhance stereo-to-quad ambience extractors? In
particular it seems like mating the SQ "Rear Channel Vari-Blend" to
Regular Matrix would be great for that. Especially now that most
regular stereo has phasing effects to expand the apparent sound
source beyond the actual physical location of the speakers.

My questions come ten or twenty years too late I know.

http://www.tuner2.com/index.html?ondemand=1&

Right now they've got 31 songs showing off 5.1 aacPlus streaming.
Sounds real nice. None of the music is super amazing or anything, nor
is it particularly bad, but it's nice to see stuff like this coming
along.

I remember a while ago someone asking what the differences were...I
have all 3 of the following (including original boxes, owners manuals,
service manuals).

* note [.......] = writing on actual front of unit

SQD-2000 [SQ DECODER SQD-2000 SOLID STATE] built 1970-71, 2 single-
sided fully discrete (no ICs) 2 main printed circuit boards (each
approx A4 size). These were connected together at one end by simple
wiring loom. This version was made to match the 2000 series amp made at
the time eg rotary selector knobs.

It also had two 4-channel discret inputs (1 at front via 2 1/4"
sockets).

SYSTEM rotary switch - 2 CH, MTX (like QS?), SQ, 4 CH-1, 4 CH-2.
Mode rotarty switch - F/B REV, MONO, NORMAL, FRONT REV, BACK REV.
TONE (back) - BASS TREBLE seperate pots.
MONITOR - 4 CH, 2 CH seperate up/down selectors.
VOLUME controls - 4 individual types next to meters.
VOLUME control - master for all 4 channels at once.
POWER - on/off.

SQD-2010 [4 CHANNEL DECODER SQD-2010] build only early 1972, the 2 pcbs
from previous version are now combined into 1 single-sided printed
circuit board, this was achieved by removing most SQ decoder
transistors,diodes, resistors & some capacitors with custom build ICs,
also the rotary selector switches are removed to be in line with
recently released TA-1150 (and similar) new Sony gear with push-button
switches. The unit had the following other features -

SYSTEM push buttom switches - 2 CH, 2->4, SQ, R MTX, DISCRETE.
MODE push button - MONO / NORMAL.
TONE (back) - BASS TREBLE seperate pots.
MONITOR - 4 CH, MONITOR, 2 CH common up/down selectors.
VOLUME controls - 4 individual types next to meters.
VOLUME control - master for all 4 channels at once.
POWER - on/off.

SQD-2020 [SQ DECODER SQD-2020 SOLID STATE] build late 1972 to 1975, the
customs ICs are now removed (costly process) & the discrete transistors
& other components are now re-instated (as SQD-2000). The printed
circuit board is now a single A4 size double-sided (copper tracks both
sides) but not plated through the holes, Sony used rivets to achieve
contacts from one side to the other. This is the main problem with
these units - over time the rivets oxidise & units stated to fail,
cleaning the board & soldering both sides of all rivits normally fixes
the problem. The front & rear controls & inputs/outputs are the same as
the SQD-2010.

Note that all three versions were designed to be used in all overseas
countries - hence there is a small raised rectangular area on the rear
with 2 screws fixing it. Removing these screws will reveal the voltage
selector jumper. Most early 1970s Japanese companies did this as it
ment that they only needed 1 transformer & power supply design for a
world market? - pity they do not do it these days.....

I have the following quad gear if any of you require any other
information-

I have several equalizers in my systems at home & they work well, note
that the JDM had them labeled as Victor SEA-V7E but when exported they
were re-branded as JVC SEA-V7E – the setups that I have are as follows –


System 1 – mix of Sony & JVC & Toshiba & Eversonic

VT-700 (Tuner)
SEA-V7E (Equalizer)
SQD-2000 (Decoder)
4VN-880 (Amp)
KD-10 (Cassette)
HR-40 (4-Channel Headphones)
Eversonic (4 off) 50W 5-way

System 2 – mix of Sony & JVC & Philips

VT-700 (Tuner)
SEA-V7E (Equalizer) - front
SQD-2010 (Decoder)
SEA-V7E (Equalizer) - rear
4VN-880 (Amp)
5911 (4-Channel Remote)
5944 (4-Channel Headphones)
733K (CD)


System 3 – Sony & Technics & Magnat

ST-5150 (Tuner)
TA-1150 (Amp) – front
SQD-2020 (Decoder)
TA-1150 (Amp) – rear
D-5A (CD)
EAH-400 (4-Channel Headphones)
Magnat-6 Speakers (4 off) 160W 3-way

System 4 – PC system, to transfer LPs to CD

PC with sound blaster Live 5.1
Sound Forge software
Sound Laundry software
SL-10 (Turntable)
Terratec Phono Pre-Amp Studio
+ approx 250 Quad LPs


I also have the following other pieces in my collection.

Cosrad HS 4000 4-Channel Headphones
Hafler 101A Preamp
KD-10 Cassette – used for spare parts
JVC ECA-102 4-Channel Reverb.
Marantz ST-400 Tuner (modified to include AM Stereo PCB)
Pioneer QD-240 CD-4 Demodulator
Quad 405mkII Amp
Sony SQA-100 Decoder (3)
Sony SQA-200 Decoder
Sony SQA-2030 Decoder
Sony SQD-1000 Decoder (2)
Sony SQD-2020 Decoder
Sony SQD-2050 Decoder (2)
Sony SQD-2070 Decoder
Sony ST-80F Tuner (3)
Sony ST-88 Tuner (2)
Sony ST-2950 Tuner
Sony TA-88 Amp (3)
Sony TA-1055 Amp (3)
Sony TAH-10 Headphone adapter
Technics SH-400 CD-4 Demodulator
Technics SH-3433 Scope

Plus Service manuals for most of the above.
I am still searching for the following 2 elusive items JVC VT-900 tuner
& Sony ST-5555 tuner…..

regards

Steve (in New Zealand)

Can someone explain to me in 9 words or less, or perhaps point me to a
good website, so I can know what GART is? Thanks.

I would also like to note that this was the disc that got my 11 y.o.
son into Kraftwerk and also into surround. It intrigued him enough
that he now is using my LP of the Man Machine and playing with PLII
and other ways to tweak a nice surround mix. I've been teaching him
Audacity for stereo mixes, wait til I show him how to do a 5.1....

Maximum/Minimum, live from the 2004 tour, yes, it is worth it. Very
nice dts mix. And in the tunes that were originally quad, like
Autobahn, they are faithful to the original quad effects in the live
performance, which I thought was a nice touch (e.g. the car at the
beginning starts RF then goes LF, LR, and in the long drive sequence
the dopplers goe RF -> LR just like in the original). The two Tour de
France's are really great and oddly, the vocals on Radioactivity
seemed to betray some actual passion. There is lots of full surround
all throughout each tune, but it's never garish, always in good taste,
and mixed by engineers who really understand surround.

The visual elements are pretty cool, but this double disc set also
stands on its own very well, perhaps even better, just for audio
listening without turning on the TV. I have no idea what the stereo
mix is like but assume it would be pointless. DVD's like this are why
we have surround systems.

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:07:15 -0700, Robi <rob.markovic@...> wrote:

>Mikkel,
>
>Please reply to the person offering, not me. I just forwarded the message
>because some of you might be interested.

I tried but got to a website that requires a login so I let it rest.

-Mikkel

Mikkel,

Please reply to the person offering, not me. I just forwarded the message
because some of you might be interested.

Thanks,

-- Rob


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