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Re: [rudiments] drumming terms

As far as I know David Garibaldi first coined the term "permutation"
meaning : take a rhythmic pattern e.g. 1-e-&-e , just play the red
lettering ( Daa-doodat) and first time round start the pattern on 1,
repeat until comfortable, then play it on e.g. on the "e "of 1, "&" of 1
and in this manner let the pattern shift through the measure until
you're back to 1 again.
Better yet, get his book "Future Sounds" and and play it!

Paul

Ramon Nazareno schreef:
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> Thanks Tomas for the enlightenment. Any idea about "permutation"?
>
> ________________________________
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> From: rudiments@yahoogroups.com <mailto:rudiments%40yahoogroups.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:08 AM
> To: rudiments@yahoogroups.com <mailto:rudiments%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [rudiments] drumming terms
>
> How about "Back Beat" ? Anyone?
>
> and, thanks Tomas.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomas Howie" <tomas@...
> <mailto:tomas%40drummingweb.com>
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> To: "rudiments" <rudiments@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [rudiments] drumming terms
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> > I'll give it a shot, though there are probably as many definitions of
> > this as there are drummers.
> >
> > If you're playing a rock song in 4/4, the downbeat would be the
> "pulse",
> > in this case the kick pattern on 1 and 3.
> >
> > Another definition of downbeat is the "1" of a measure, the first
> beat.
> > "Come in on the downbeat" means come in on "1" of the next measure.
> >
> > The backbeat is the snare hits on 2 and 4. The sub-pulse, if you will.
> >
> > The up beat - I think - is the & of the measure 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &. This
> > is the source of syncopation, which is emphasizing the & instead of
> the
> > quarter note.
> >
> > Upbeat can also mean fast, quick, or something that feels more
> energetic
> > in a light, lively way.
> >
> > The side beat? Don't know. Maybe the "e" and "ah" of a measure? 1 - e
> > - & - ah - 2 - e - & - ah, etc. The sixteenth notes?
> >
> > Good questions. Anyone else have any answers?
> >
> > Tomas
> > rudiments owner
> >
> >
> >
> > edo wulia wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi list,
> >>
> >> How do you explain drumming terms: 'down beat' , 'up beat' and 'back
> >> beat' ?
> >> Thanks and looking forward to get some responses.
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Hi list, How do you explain drumming terms: 'down beat' , 'up beat' and 'back beat' ? Thanks and looking forward to get some responses. [Non-text portions of...
edo wulia
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Hi Everyone, I'd like to add also this term: "side beat"? Regards. ________________________________ From: rudiments@yahoogroups.com...
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Apr 22, 2009
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I'll give it a shot, though there are probably as many definitions of this as there are drummers. If you're playing a rock song in 4/4, the downbeat would be...
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Apr 22, 2009
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How about "Back Beat" ? Anyone? and, thanks Tomas. ... From: "Tomas Howie" <tomas@...> To: "rudiments" <rudiments@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday,...
edo wulia
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Thanks Tomas for the enlightenment. Any idea about "permutation"? ________________________________ From: rudiments@yahoogroups.com...
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Apr 22, 2009
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As far as I know David Garibaldi first coined the term "permutation" meaning : take a rhythmic pattern e.g. 1-e-&-e , just play the red lettering ( Daa-doodat)...
Paul van der Vossen
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Apr 22, 2009
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It would be nice to see these great explanations in written notation. A lot of double bass applications speak of playing the left kick on the upbeat. ... From:...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(music)#Backbeat Enjoy! ________________________________ From: SteveV <svollo@...> To: edo wulia <edo@...>;...
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