hi,
this might be of interest for some of you
david-emil
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david-emil wickström
phd-student
"transformations in russian popular music of the post-soviet era -
case study st. petersburg"
københavns universitet, denmark
www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
"Искусство есть средство для беседы с
людьми, а не цель."
М. П. Мусоргский
I do think
it's also a given that while distinctions are often made based on
supposedly "musical" criteria, they are often based (as Mark alludes
to) on ideological criteria (as in the case of disco, to list one of
many, many examples). Because it's my area of choice, I can't
help but notice the gendered nature of many of these supposed "musical"
bifurcations (including rock vs. pop(sa)); MacFadyen alludes to
just such a gendering re: Estrada, wherein the lyric/civic
disctinction were often seen as correlates to feminine/masculine (and,
by the way, can anyone even define estrada today??).
Well, I don't quite get your corelation between gendering and rock/pop.
I'll illustrate: Aria's (+Kipelov's, + Master's) lyrics are often
viewed (and, in fact, are, as their author is female, Margarita
Pushkina) as feminine, and it's Rock, no doubt.
Also, Surganova and Orkestr, Melnitsa, Arefieva are "feminine" bands, and would count "strong rock" on a rock-pop scale.
While truEmasculine Zveri, Bratia Grimm et cetra are "mostly pop" on same scale, while trying to look like rock.
There are a lot of female popsa singeress, sure, but they are not
trying to look like truErockers :) They're just a pop girls, no
masquerade.
Or maybe, you might say, corelation is like male bounds to pop and
female bounds to rock? That is a might-be for a newer bands :)
While there are a lot of old masculine bands which are still "strong
rock".
P.S. Maybe that's just because it's pop to look masculine, and it's not pop to look contemplative.
It seems to me almost a given that genres can and can't be defined - can't, insofar as one is looking for a universal taxonomy, can insoafar as we understand that such classifications are situated in specific times, places, communities, etc. Even the contention that rock makes use of "African-American" musics gets thorny, because (as Phillip Tagg pointed out years ago), the assignation of musical traits to either a "white" or a "black" music is never as clear cut as it appears to be.
I do think it's also a given that while distinctions are often made based on supposedly "musical" criteria, they are often based (as Mark alludes to) on ideological criteria (as in the case of disco, to list one of many, many examples). Because it's my area of choice, I can't help but notice the gendered nature of many of these supposed "musical" bifurcations
(including rock vs. pop(sa)); MacFadyen alludes to just such a gendering re: Estrada, wherein the lyric/civic disctinction were often seen as correlates to feminine/masculine (and, by the way, can anyone even define estrada today??).
I think the discussion on this board a few months back about "how to define chanson" was a perfect example of just how tricky taxonomies can be.
Best,
Stephen
Mr Joshua Wilson <philosopherking1848@...> wrote:
Dear all:
First, thank you all for the discussion we've had so far. Your comments and notes will help greatly and expanding and focusing the future development of this project.
I agree with Sergio that there is a definite difference between "more rock" and "less rock," but even in this case, one needs a definition of "rock," preferably with prioritized components, in order to make the judgement call of what is more or less rock.
Mark's comments get us closer to this definition, but you'll notice that they are a bit "hairy" - there are many, many influences and criteria listed to work with. My own personal belief is that rock consists of narrative lyrics song to the accompaniment of (mostly) guitar and drums. Anything that deviates from that wonders into subsection and classifications of rock. Hence, Bratya Grimm does classify partly because of their instrumentation - though the lyrics
put them outside of "rock proper." Or, as I have chosen to classify them for the sake of convenience, alt-rock.
But I get the impression that most of you have other criteria for rock - something closer perhaps with the 1980's "I wanna Rock!" style of rock or the 1960s-70's mind-and-genre-expanding experimental rock. With modern genres, the bounds are flexible to the extreme and much depends on your generation, cultural background (as Illya pointed out), and personal tastes.
Along these lines, it should be noted that this is a resource aimed primarily at Americans. The beginning of it has focused on the more popular bands largely because it was easier to find more info for these bands and is much easier to buy their CDs in America (one of the main criteria for selection - to encourage students to strike out further and actually incorporate this music into their daily listening).
However, should
anyone care to develop the thought (or provide a link) about how cultural background can affect genre classification, I would love to hear more about this and possibly include the thoughts in a footnote to the resource.
Again, thank you all for the lively discussion and I hope to hear more.
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Dear all:
First, thank you all for the discussion we've had so
far. Your comments and notes will help greatly and
expanding and focusing the future development of this
project.
I agree with Sergio that there is a definite
difference between "more rock" and "less rock," but
even in this case, one needs a definition of "rock,"
preferably with prioritized components, in order to
make the judgement call of what is more or less rock.
Mark's comments get us closer to this definition, but
you'll notice that they are a bit "hairy" - there are
many, many influences and criteria listed to work
with. My own personal belief is that rock consists of
narrative lyrics song to the accompaniment of (mostly)
guitar and drums. Anything that deviates from that
wonders into subsection and classifications of rock.
Hence, Bratya Grimm does classify partly because of
their instrumentation - though the lyrics put them
outside of "rock proper." Or, as I have chosen to
classify them for the sake of convenience, alt-rock.
But I get the impression that most of you have other
criteria for rock - something closer perhaps with the
1980's "I wanna Rock!" style of rock or the 1960s-70's
mind-and-genre-expanding experimental rock. With
modern genres, the bounds are flexible to the extreme
and much depends on your generation, cultural
background (as Illya pointed out), and personal
tastes.
Along these lines, it should be noted that this is a
resource aimed primarily at Americans. The beginning
of it has focused on the more popular bands largely
because it was easier to find more info for these
bands and is much easier to buy their CDs in America
(one of the main criteria for selection - to encourage
students to strike out further and actually
incorporate this music into their daily listening).
However, should anyone care to develop the thought (or
provide a link) about how cultural background can
affect genre classification, I would love to hear more
about this and possibly include the thoughts in a
footnote to the resource.
Again, thank you all for the lively discussion and I
hope to hear more.
Josh
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First off, I would STRONGLY disagree with your assertion that genres can be strictly defined. If you can give me some strict criteria that can be strictly (ie without debate) applied, I would be very grateful
(and surprised).
Well, I guess you've making a popular resource, not a culturalogical one.
In which case you should understand that 1) there is no such division
between rock and alt rock, these terms might work for US/UK rock but
aren't releant for Russian rock, in the sence that noone would ever
guess your division criterias unless told; 2) from a popular viewpoint,
as of today, pop-rock bands airplay on every radio including Autoradio,
Russkoe Radio, Radio Popsa and the like, when not-pop-rock bands
airplay on Nashe radio and, occasionally, on Radio Maximum. Whenever
airplaying on radio Popsa makes a rock band pop-rock is a matter of
thousands debates, but as today this rule have no exceptions.
As for essential hits. Russian scene is very
album-oriented and much less airplay-oriented than most others. I mean,
every old band have got a dozen essential hits, which you might not
hear on radio, but you'll surely hear from every teenager with an
acoustic guitar; and new bands often do not have airplays at all, thus
having no essential hits.
And I don't listen to metal/alternative that much (you know, I prefer
folk-rock) to spot their exact hits, but last.fm charts are your
friends :)
Though I agree with Joshua
when he says that genres CAN'T be strongly defined, I feel myself nearer
to Ilya's taste. Besides, I think music in not only a matter of taste. Music
genres are a good way to understand music, and to talk about music; the problem
is when you try to apply them to a single group or author. So, you can't
say "this is a rock group" or "this is not a rock group";
but I think you can say "this group is more rock, then another one";
for example, Aria is more rock group than Brat'ja Grim (by the way what's
there of "rock" in Brat'ja Grim?!?!?). Another example: first
Aria are more rock than the more recent Aria.
Still, I think that the opposition
between "rock" and "pop" is useful to understand rock
phenomenon, but in concrete cases it's not so easy to draw a strict line between
"rock groups" and "pop groups". For example: I can
admitt that SOME Bi-2 songs are near to rock music, but most of them are,
according to me, �"sploshnaja popsa".
Yeah, you've got my point completely.
As about your list, I'll surely add Nastya (which is for some reason largely forgotten), Oblachny Kray, Kalinov Most.
These 3 have really added value to russian rock as a thing.
As far as I understand it rock is an Anglo-American genre of music made out of fusion of Afro- American blues tradition and white American rock-a-billy and Appalachian musical tradition. Rock is supposed to include bluesy musical progressions, contain full rhythm section and be heavy on bass and percussion. There will be strong Afro-American influences present, particularly of R & B and Gospel.
As a classical example of such Creedence Clearwater Revivle comes to mind. Or Bob Seger and Silver Bullet Band, or Van Morrison, The Beatles (for most part), or the Doors.
Outside of that things are deviations from this basic formula. They might be called rock but that happens for the lack of better numerology. Most often they are not really rock in this classical sense. Therefore Nol, Krematorii, Sukachev basically dont pass the test as rock. As dont many other Russian or foreign bands that are still called rock, because they are not popsa. Useful are synthetic terms such as: folk-rock (Arefeva, often Akvarium), bard-rock Bashlachev, Yanka etc. But rock here is a marker stating not that the music comes from classical Anglo-American rock tradition, but that again, this music is different than pop.
I suspect that term rock applied to clearly non-rock musical phenomena is more of ideological cultural marker than an objective musicological technical term. It states beholders attitude towards the band or a type of music in focus, separating more noble and sophisticated musical phenomena from musical pop fluff. Now, how music industry uses this numerology for marketing purposes is another story all together...
Mark Yoffe, ICA
----- Original Message ----- From: Sergio Mazzanti <sergiomazzanti@...> Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2006 8:02 pm Subject: R: [russian_popular_music] Re: Some personal ideas about rock and pop To: russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com
> Hallo narod, > > > > Though I agree with Joshua when he says that genres CANT be strongly > defined, I feel myself nearer to Ilyas taste. Besides, I think music > in not > only a matter of taste. Music genres are a good way to understand > music, and > to talk about music; the problem is when you try to apply them to a single > group or author. So, you cant say this is a rock group or this is > not a > rock group; but I think you can say this group is more rock, then another
> one; for example, Aria is more rock group than Bratja Grim (by the > way > whats there of rock in Bratja Grim?!?!?). Another example: first > Aria > are more rock than the more recent Aria. > > Still, I think that the opposition between rock and pop is useful > to > understand rock phenomenon, but in concrete cases its not so easy to > draw a > strict line between rock groups and pop groups. For example: I can > admitt that SOME Bi-2 songs are near to rock music, but most of them > are, > according to me, sploshnaja popsa. > > Of course, the main question is: What is rock?. And its very hard > to > answer (and perhaps impossible). > > I think its an historical question, and its better to discuss about > single
> groups (or single songs?), than to try to give definitions. > > So Ive got a proposal: everybody will give his list of the main > groups of > russkij rok (I should restrict to 15-25 groups or authors, from > 1969 to > 2000). > > > > It would be interesting. > > > > I didnt mentioned Vysockij and Bashlacev, cause I think theyre not > russkij rok, though they had an enormous influence on it. > > My selection, as you can see, is very soviet: I appreciate new groups > too, as like as Tequilajazzz, Arefeva or Leningrad, but for the > story of > russkij rok, they are not so important (or not yet). > > > > This is my list: >
> > > - Mashina Vremeni, > > - Akvarium, > > - Urfin Dzhjus; > > - Zoopark, > > - Kino, > > - DDT, > > - Alisa, > > - Sukacev, > > - Piknik, > > - Krematorij,
> > - Nautilus Pompilius, > > - Chaj-f, > > - Televizor, > > - Zvuki-mu, > > - Nol, > > - Grazhdanskaja Oborona, > > - Aria, > > - Aguzarova, > > - Va-bank, > > - Korrozija Metalla,
> > - Aukcion, > > > > > > Sergio Mazzanti (Rome) > > > > > > _____ > > Da: russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com > [ Per conto di Mr Joshua Wilson > Inviato: mercoled 6 settembre 2006 11.37 > A: russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com > Oggetto: Re: [russian_popular_music] Re: New Online Music Resource > > > > Ilya, > > Thanks for your notes. > > First off, I would STRONGLY disagree with your > assertion that genres can be strictly defined. If you
> can give me some strict criteria that can be strictly > (ie without debate) applied, I would be very grateful > (and surprised). > > Many of the other things you point out are simply due > the fact that two people (myself, assisted by an > intern) put together the vast majority of this large > resource. Hence, not everything can be included as it > takes time and effort (both finite) to research, > write, and program. Also, since this was largely a > personal project, personal tastes have interveened in > the triage that is editing. I'm a big fan of folk > punk, hence the reason it was prioritized over metal > (which I don't generally care for). > > You'll notice towards the bottom of the page that I've > promised to continue to develop it (including a
> section on metal) over the next few months with > additional bands and sections. > > I will most likely update this list with > announcements, but if you want see all the updates, I > would suggest you subscribe to the newsletter and keep > an eye out. > > Again, I've made notes of all of your comments in the > working file I have for continuing to develop this. > If you would like to help out more by sending me an > email with "essential hits" and maybe more info on > your favorite metal and alternative bands, I will > certianly make use of the information when I make the > next update. > > Sincerely, > > Josh Wilson > Asst. Director > The School of Russian and Asian Studies
> Editor-in-Chief > Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies > www.sras.org > jwilson@sras. <> org > > > >
Though I agree with Joshua
when he says that genres CAN’T be strongly defined, I feel myself nearer
to Ilya’s taste. Besides, I think music in not only a matter of taste. Music
genres are a good way to understand music, and to talk about music; the problem
is when you try to apply them to a single group or author. So, you can’t
say “this is a rock group” or “this is not a rock group”;
but I think you can say “this group is more rock, then another one”;
for example, Aria is more rock group than Brat’ja Grim (by the way what’s
there of “rock” in Brat’ja Grim?!?!?). Another example: first
Aria are more rock than the more recent Aria.
Still, I think that the opposition
between “rock” and “pop” is useful to understand rock
phenomenon, but in concrete cases it’s not so easy to draw a strict line between
“rock groups” and “pop groups”. For example: I can
admitt that SOME Bi-2 songs are near to rock music, but most of them are,
according to me, “sploshnaja popsa”.
Of course, the main question
is: “What is rock?”. And it’s very hard to answer (and
perhaps impossible).
I think it’s an
historical question, and it’s better to discuss about single groups (or
single songs?), than to try to give definitions.
So I’ve got a proposal:
everybody will give his list of the main groups of “russkij rok” (I
should restrict to 15-25 groups or authors, from 1969 to 2000).
It would be interesting.
I didn’t mentioned Vysockij
and Bashlacev, ‘cause I think they’re not “russkij rok”,
though they had an enormous influence on it.
My selection, as you can
see, is very “soviet”: I appreciate “new” groups too,
as like as Tequilajazzz, Aref’eva or Leningrad, but for the story of “russkij
rok”, they are not so important (or not yet).
This is my list:
-Mashina Vremeni,
-Akvarium,
-Urfin Dzhjus;
-Zoopark,
-Kino,
-DDT,
-Alisa,
-Sukacev,
-Piknik,
-Krematorij,
-Nautilus Pompilius,
-Chaj-f,
-Televizor,
-Zvuki-mu,
-Nol’,
-Grazhdanskaja Oborona,
-Aria,
-Aguzarova,
-Va-bank,
-Korrozija Metalla,
-Aukcion,
Sergio Mazzanti (Rome)
Da:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com [mailto:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Mr Joshua Wilson Inviato: mercoled 6 settembre
2006 11.37 A:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com Oggetto: Re:
[russian_popular_music] Re: New Online Music Resource
Ilya,
Thanks for your notes.
First off, I would STRONGLY disagree with your
assertion that genres can be strictly defined. If you
can give me some strict criteria that can be strictly
(ie without debate) applied, I would be very grateful
(and surprised).
Many of the other things you point out are simply due
the fact that two people (myself, assisted by an
intern) put together the vast majority of this large
resource. Hence, not everything can be included as it
takes time and effort (both finite) to research,
write, and program. Also, since this was largely a
personal project, personal tastes have interveened in
the triage that is editing. I'm a big fan of folk
punk, hence the reason it was prioritized over metal
(which I don't generally care for).
You'll notice towards the bottom of the page that I've
promised to continue to develop it (including a
section on metal) over the next few months with
additional bands and sections.
I will most likely update this list with
announcements, but if you want see all the updates, I
would suggest you subscribe to the newsletter and keep
an eye out.
Again, I've made notes of all of your comments in the
working file I have for continuing to develop this.
If you would like to help out more by sending me an
email with "essential hits" and maybe more info on
your favorite metal and alternative bands, I will
certianly make use of the information when I make the
next update.
Sincerely,
Josh Wilson
Asst. Director
The School of Russian and Asian Studies
Editor-in-Chief
Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
www.sras.org jwilson@sras.org
Ilya,
Thanks for your notes.
First off, I would STRONGLY disagree with your
assertion that genres can be strictly defined. If you
can give me some strict criteria that can be strictly
(ie without debate) applied, I would be very grateful
(and surprised).
Many of the other things you point out are simply due
the fact that two people (myself, assisted by an
intern) put together the vast majority of this large
resource. Hence, not everything can be included as it
takes time and effort (both finite) to research,
write, and program. Also, since this was largely a
personal project, personal tastes have interveened in
the triage that is editing. I'm a big fan of folk
punk, hence the reason it was prioritized over metal
(which I don't generally care for).
You'll notice towards the bottom of the page that I've
promised to continue to develop it (including a
section on metal) over the next few months with
additional bands and sections.
I will most likely update this list with
announcements, but if you want see all the updates, I
would suggest you subscribe to the newsletter and keep
an eye out.
Again, I've made notes of all of your comments in the
working file I have for continuing to develop this.
If you would like to help out more by sending me an
email with "essential hits" and maybe more info on
your favorite metal and alternative bands, I will
certianly make use of the information when I make the
next update.
Sincerely,
Josh Wilson
Asst. Director
The School of Russian and Asian Studies
Editor-in-Chief
Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
www.sras.org
jwilson@...
--- Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnacheev@...> wrote:
> Well, let's see, starting from point seven:
> Classic Rock
> Mashina Vremeni's offspring Voskresenie, but no
> Aquarium? That'a a
> _pretty_ strange selection. But OK.
> as an essential hit for ? Why not
> ? I
> would say , last.fm would say the same
> :)
> Agata Kristi. as an essential hit?
> Why not
> or ? Last.fm again confirms.
>
> Rock. Sorry, why Zveri, Bratya Grim and, to a lesser
> extent, Bi-2?
> That's pop-rock, not rock. The line is drawn
> strictly. Really
> strictly. Don't mistake pop-rock for rock.
> Alt rock. Sorry again, Uma2rman, Gorod 312 and
> Smyslovye Gallucinacii
> are pop-rock and just that.
> I, for one, failed to understand how and on which
> criterias did you
> divide your 'rock' from your 'alt rock'. You've
> better divide them
> into 'rock' and 'pop rock'.
>
> Punk. No mistakes. OK.
> Folk punk. Weird selection, but really interesting.
> OK.
>
> Why there is no metal?
> Aria, Master, Catharsis, Epidemy, Butterfly Temple
> would form a good set.
> Why there is no alternative?
> Torba-na-kruche, #####, Amatory, Kirpichi would
> again form a good set.
>
> Anyway, I appreciate your great work, I hope I'll
> help you make it better.
>
> 2006/9/5, Mr Joshua Wilson
> <philosopherking1848@...>:
> > Hello all!
> >
> > I'm writing in to let you all know about a new
> > resource that I, my fantastic new Russian intern,
> and
> > the School of Russian and Asian Studies have
> recently
> > made available online.
> >
> > Popular Bands in Russia is part of a larger
> project
> > called "The Library" which compiles information
> about
> > Russia and Internet resources to help students
> > research the information further. This Library
> entry
> > presents brief bios for bands as wide ranging as
> pop
> > singers, bards, rappers, Russian alt-rock, and
> > soviet-era popular singers. Each comes with a
> > streaming audio file to sample the music, a
> website
> > with more information, and a link to buy CDs of
> the
> > music from a distributor in America. Go to:
> > http://www.sras.org/news.phtml?m=491 and scroll
> down
> > to the sixth option (clearly noted "Popular
> Russian
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> >
> > For information on Russian slang about music, as
> well
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2kop more:
Zemfira the band was formed in 1998.
Ruslana is a Ukrainian singress and have nothing to do with Russia,
strictly speaking.
05.09.06, Ilya Kasnacheev<ilya.kasnacheev@...> ():
> Well, let's see, starting from point seven:
> Classic Rock
> Mashina Vremeni's offspring Voskresenie, but no Aquarium? That'a a
> _pretty_ strange selection. But OK.
> as an essential hit for ? Why not ? I
> would say , last.fm would say the same :)
> Agata Kristi. as an essential hit? Why not
> or ? Last.fm again confirms.
>
> Rock. Sorry, why Zveri, Bratya Grim and, to a lesser extent, Bi-2?
> That's pop-rock, not rock. The line is drawn strictly. Really
> strictly. Don't mistake pop-rock for rock.
> Alt rock. Sorry again, Uma2rman, Gorod 312 and Smyslovye Gallucinacii
> are pop-rock and just that.
> I, for one, failed to understand how and on which criterias did you
> divide your 'rock' from your 'alt rock'. You've better divide them
> into 'rock' and 'pop rock'.
>
> Punk. No mistakes. OK.
> Folk punk. Weird selection, but really interesting. OK.
>
> Why there is no metal?
> Aria, Master, Catharsis, Epidemy, Butterfly Temple would form a good set.
> Why there is no alternative?
> Torba-na-kruche, #####, Amatory, Kirpichi would again form a good set.
>
> Anyway, I appreciate your great work, I hope I'll help you make it better.
>
> 2006/9/5, Mr Joshua Wilson <philosopherking1848@...>:
> > Hello all!
> >
> > I'm writing in to let you all know about a new
> > resource that I, my fantastic new Russian intern, and
> > the School of Russian and Asian Studies have recently
> > made available online.
> >
> > Popular Bands in Russia is part of a larger project
> > called "The Library" which compiles information about
> > Russia and Internet resources to help students
> > research the information further. This Library entry
> > presents brief bios for bands as wide ranging as pop
> > singers, bards, rappers, Russian alt-rock, and
> > soviet-era popular singers. Each comes with a
> > streaming audio file to sample the music, a website
> > with more information, and a link to buy CDs of the
> > music from a distributor in America. Go to:
> > http://www.sras.org/news.phtml?m=491 and scroll down
> > to the sixth option (clearly noted "Popular Russian
> > Bands").
> >
> > For information on Russian slang about music, as well
> > as lots of information about scholarships, publishing,
> > grant, and more about life in today's Russia, see this
> > month's SRAS newsletter at
> > http://www.sras.org/newsletter2.phtml?m=313
> >
> > Let me know what you think of these resources!
> >
> > Have a great school year,
> >
> > Josh Wilson
> > Asst. Director
> > The School of Russian and Asian Studies
> > Editor-in-Chief
> > Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
> > www.sras.org
> > jwilson@...
> >
> > P.S. Can anyone tell me how to use a non-yahoo email
> > to recieve and contribute to this list? I tried to
> > sign up using my standard address (above), but failed?
> >
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Well, let's see, starting from point seven:
Classic Rock
Mashina Vremeni's offspring Voskresenie, but no Aquarium? That'a a
_pretty_ strange selection. But OK.
as an essential hit for ? Why not ? I
would say , last.fm would say the same :)
Agata Kristi. as an essential hit? Why not
or ? Last.fm again confirms.
Rock. Sorry, why Zveri, Bratya Grim and, to a lesser extent, Bi-2?
That's pop-rock, not rock. The line is drawn strictly. Really
strictly. Don't mistake pop-rock for rock.
Alt rock. Sorry again, Uma2rman, Gorod 312 and Smyslovye Gallucinacii
are pop-rock and just that.
I, for one, failed to understand how and on which criterias did you
divide your 'rock' from your 'alt rock'. You've better divide them
into 'rock' and 'pop rock'.
Punk. No mistakes. OK.
Folk punk. Weird selection, but really interesting. OK.
Why there is no metal?
Aria, Master, Catharsis, Epidemy, Butterfly Temple would form a good set.
Why there is no alternative?
Torba-na-kruche, #####, Amatory, Kirpichi would again form a good set.
Anyway, I appreciate your great work, I hope I'll help you make it better.
2006/9/5, Mr Joshua Wilson <philosopherking1848@...>:
> Hello all!
>
> I'm writing in to let you all know about a new
> resource that I, my fantastic new Russian intern, and
> the School of Russian and Asian Studies have recently
> made available online.
>
> Popular Bands in Russia is part of a larger project
> called "The Library" which compiles information about
> Russia and Internet resources to help students
> research the information further. This Library entry
> presents brief bios for bands as wide ranging as pop
> singers, bards, rappers, Russian alt-rock, and
> soviet-era popular singers. Each comes with a
> streaming audio file to sample the music, a website
> with more information, and a link to buy CDs of the
> music from a distributor in America. Go to:
> http://www.sras.org/news.phtml?m=491 and scroll down
> to the sixth option (clearly noted "Popular Russian
> Bands").
>
> For information on Russian slang about music, as well
> as lots of information about scholarships, publishing,
> grant, and more about life in today's Russia, see this
> month's SRAS newsletter at
> http://www.sras.org/newsletter2.phtml?m=313
>
> Let me know what you think of these resources!
>
> Have a great school year,
>
> Josh Wilson
> Asst. Director
> The School of Russian and Asian Studies
> Editor-in-Chief
> Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
> www.sras.org
> jwilson@...
>
> P.S. Can anyone tell me how to use a non-yahoo email
> to recieve and contribute to this list? I tried to
> sign up using my standard address (above), but failed?
>
>
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Well,
Rumors about Berezovsky are probably true, see article
http://www.apn.ru/publications/article9950.htm (in Russian) by Ilya
Kormiltsev (who's a poet for the famous Nautilus Pompilius band as
well as some other projects).
I rarely listen to Nashe radio, preferring to form playlists in amaroK myself.
They airplay a lot of old, but still functional Russian Rock bands -
Aria, Alisa, DDT, Aquarium, etc.
They airplay a lot of old, defunct, but still very popular Russian
Rock bands - Nautilus Pompilius, Zoopark, Kino. I would speculate that
most of listeners prefer old bands and old albums of still-existing
bands, and their song rotation cares about that fact.
They airplay a lot of present-day punk-rock and pop-rock bands -
Korol' i Shut, Nochnye Snaipery, Tarakany, Smyslovie Gallutsinatsii,
Uma2rman. Pop-rock usually do not climb high in charts due to "pop VS
rock" confrontation.
Sometimes they add to charts and even rotate some really weird things
like Django, GDR.
They sometimes try to add a few of alternative and heavy metal bands
to chart, but that fails - these songs sink in chart.
Nashe radio don't actively rotate metal and alternative bands other
than ones which are historically bound to russian rock context (like
Aria)
For the last year, Nashe radio is trying some folk/progressive rock
bands like Melnitsa, Pelageya, Severo-Vostok, because of astonishing
success of Melnitsa, which debuted with a song which immediately
captured first position in chart and held it for a few months, thus
becoming #1 of the yearly chart.
Nashe radio' chart is 13 positions long, weekly. It is permanently
ocuppied with Korol' i Shut, Melnitsa, Alisa, Aquarium and other
long-popular bands, often leaving just five or so slots for lesser
known bands. This chart is very short by western means, makes you NOT
wonder why really good songs by onscure bands instantly sink below
13th place.
I listen to charts regularily because I really appreciate folk rock
wave and its flagman, Melnitsa.
Due to a popular belief, Nashe radio plays a shit-rock. The russian
blues band Stanciya MIR have a song which title is translated "Nashe
Radio Sucks".
They can't really do anything with that problem because old bands
become weaker from album to album, and new bands are either
mildly-popular secondary happy shitrock, or fine but niche and can't
really attract audience.
Hope I hepled.
2006/9/5, David-Emil Wickström <damil@...>:
> hi,
>
> i'm working on a chapter for my dissertation on nashe radio
> (www.nashe.ru) - for those of you who don't know the station, it is a
> (more or less) rock station just about only playing music in russian
> ("russian" is broadly defined here - it includes at least ukrainian,
> belorussian and moldavian). their main slogan is "nasha muzyka -
> nastoiashchaia muzyka. nashe radio - sdelano v rossii"
>
> while i got some general information about how the station operates
> today (i managed to interview the general director of the st.
> petersburg branch) i'm trying to chart the history of the station and
> its owners. the only thing i have found out is that it belongs (or
> belonged) to logovaz-news corporation, which is (was) owned by boris
> berezovsky and rupert murdoch and was headed by mikhail kozyrev until
> 2005. today it is owned by a holding (whos name i don't know - it
> probably still is logovaz-new corporation) together with the stations
> best fm and ultra (both local moscow stations).
>
> i can't find any official information on logovaz-news corporation
> online (only some articles referring to it) and no information on who
> owns nashe radio today. i am also looking for contact details for
> mikhail kozyrev. and of course general information on nashe radio is
> always good to get (how many of you listen to it, what is your
> opinion about the station, what kind of music do they play etc.). so
> if any of you could help that would greatly be appreciated.
>
> greetings,
>
> dew
> ---
> OS4MY
>
> david-emil wickström
> phd-student
> "transformations in russian popular music of the post-soviet era -
> case study st. petersburg"
> københavns universitet, denmark
> www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
>
> "Искусство есть средство для беседы с
> людьми, а не цель."
> М. П. Мусоргский
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
hi,
i'm working on a chapter for my dissertation on nashe radio
(www.nashe.ru) - for those of you who don't know the station, it is a
(more or less) rock station just about only playing music in russian
("russian" is broadly defined here - it includes at least ukrainian,
belorussian and moldavian). their main slogan is "nasha muzyka -
nastoiashchaia muzyka. nashe radio - sdelano v rossii"
while i got some general information about how the station operates
today (i managed to interview the general director of the st.
petersburg branch) i'm trying to chart the history of the station and
its owners. the only thing i have found out is that it belongs (or
belonged) to logovaz-news corporation, which is (was) owned by boris
berezovsky and rupert murdoch and was headed by mikhail kozyrev until
2005. today it is owned by a holding (whos name i don't know - it
probably still is logovaz-new corporation) together with the stations
best fm and ultra (both local moscow stations).
i can't find any official information on logovaz-news corporation
online (only some articles referring to it) and no information on who
owns nashe radio today. i am also looking for contact details for
mikhail kozyrev. and of course general information on nashe radio is
always good to get (how many of you listen to it, what is your
opinion about the station, what kind of music do they play etc.). so
if any of you could help that would greatly be appreciated.
greetings,
dew
---
OS4MY
david-emil wickström
phd-student
"transformations in russian popular music of the post-soviet era -
case study st. petersburg"
københavns universitet, denmark
www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
"Искусство есть средство для беседы с
людьми, а не цель."
М. П. Мусоргский
privet sergio!
V russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com Sergio Mazzanti napisal:
> 1) kogda imenno budet Mexico City conference?
budet s 25.06 do 29.06.2007
> 2) Abstract (i sledovatel’no vystuplenie na konferenciju) dolzhen byt’
objazatel
no na angliskom ili tozhe na drugom jazyke (naprimer na russkom)?
mozhno tozhe na russkom koneshno (nu dlia marka i menia, dlia konferentsii
naverno
nado po angliskii, no eto my mozhem perevodit')
> P.S. Chto kasaetsja teksta iz “Russian profile?, ne tol’ko data
rozhdenija
Lenigradskogo kluba, no takzhe i ego tolkovanie pokazalis’ mne slishkom
uproscennymi; tem ne menee, tekst dejstvitel’no bogat interesnymi
zamechanijami
da, osoboe kogda pishet o cegodniashnykh temakh on interesno. ne zabyvai chto
stat'ia
dlia zhurnala i ne akademicheskoe issledovanie ;-)
david-emil
Hello all!
I'm writing in to let you all know about a new
resource that I, my fantastic new Russian intern, and
the School of Russian and Asian Studies have recently
made available online.
Popular Bands in Russia is part of a larger project
called "The Library" which compiles information about
Russia and Internet resources to help students
research the information further. This Library entry
presents brief bios for bands as wide ranging as pop
singers, bards, rappers, Russian alt-rock, and
soviet-era popular singers. Each comes with a
streaming audio file to sample the music, a website
with more information, and a link to buy CDs of the
music from a distributor in America. Go to:
http://www.sras.org/news.phtml?m=491 and scroll down
to the sixth option (clearly noted "Popular Russian
Bands").
For information on Russian slang about music, as well
as lots of information about scholarships, publishing,
grant, and more about life in today's Russia, see this
month's SRAS newsletter at
http://www.sras.org/newsletter2.phtml?m=313
Let me know what you think of these resources!
Have a great school year,
Josh Wilson
Asst. Director
The School of Russian and Asian Studies
Editor-in-Chief
Vestnik, The Journal of Russian and Asian Studies
www.sras.org
jwilson@...
P.S. Can anyone tell me how to use a non-yahoo email
to recieve and contribute to this list? I tried to
sign up using my standard address (above), but failed?
__________________________________________________
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2) Abstract (i sledovatel’no
vystuplenie na konferenciju) dolzhen byt’ objazatel’no na angliskom ili tozhe na
drugom jazyke (naprimer na russkom)?
Spasibo
Sergio Mazzanti (Rome)
P.S. Chto kasaetsja teksta
iz “Russian profile”, ne tol’ko data rozhdenija Lenigradskogo kluba, no takzhe
i ego tolkovanie pokazalis’ mne slishkom uproscennymi; tem ne menee, tekst
dejstvitel’no bogat interesnymi zamechanijami
Da:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com [mailto:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di David-Emil Wickström Inviato: mercoledì 30 agosto 2006
17.48 A:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com Oggetto: [russian_popular_music]
CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS: 15 Years Later: past and present in Soviet/post-Soviet
popular music
CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS: 15 Years Later: past and
present in Soviet/
post-Soviet popular music
15 years since the fall of the Soviet Union it is important to re-
examine our views of popular music under the Soviet regime and to
newly examine the present situation in which post-Soviet popular
music finds itself in.
It goes without saying that the last 15 years brought tremendous
changes in the world of Russian and non-Russian popular music in the
countries of the Former Soviet Union. Initially an identity crisis
brought about by the loss of the role of spiritual, cultural, and
political leadership on the cultural arena that was one of the main
characteristics of Soviet popular music community reigned. This was
followed by a period of self discovery, re-discovery and adaptations
to the new socio-economic, cultural and political reality. Popular
music was subjected to new forces of market economy: issues brought
up by management, image making, marketing, advertisement, etc.
Ideologically and stylistically popular music covered a wide span of
attitudes, styles, beliefs and trends, from ultra nationalist root
folk to sleek Westernized pop and more. We suggest examining these
trends and movements closely from as wide as possible variety of
points of view: social, political, cultural, stylistic,
anthropological, musicological etc.
We also invite discussions and revisionist theories of Soviet popular
music, to provide a fresh view of this phenomenon, from the distance
of 15 years and rich data and new information accumulated since 1991.
We invite papers dealing with these or other related to the history,
traditions and interpretations of Soviet and post-Soviet popular
music to be delivered at the panel we are proposing for the IASPM
conference in Mexico City 2007.
Please send your abstracts (max. 250 words) to Mark Yoffe
(yoffe@...) and David-Emil Wickstroem
(davidw@....dk) by
october 15th 2006
---
OS4MY
david-emil wickström
phd-student
"transformations in russian popular music of the post-soviet era -
case study st. petersburg"
københavns universitet, denmark
www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
"Искусство есть средство для беседы с
людьми, а не цель."
М. П. Мусоргский
We are mounting a rather major production of the "Cherry Orchard" here
at our college and are trying to track down the words and sheet music
to a number of the songs in the play. We have found some, but we
haven't had a lot of success with one in particular. We are looking
for the words and music to the song that Chekhov has Epikhodov sing in
the begining of Act II. Epikhodov manages to get through only the
first two lines, "Chto mne do shumnogo sveta, chto mne druz'ya i
vragi...".Apparently the first verse reads:
Chto mne do shumnogo sveta?
chto mne druz'ya i vragi?
Bylo by serdtse sogreto
Zharom vzaimnoj lyubvi.
Some critics mention that this is one of the popular Russian 19th
century "cruel" romances about a man who kills his lover. Some also
claim that this was one of Lermontov's favorite songs.
The discussion group "Russian Forum at MasterRussian.NET"
(http://masterrussian.net/mforum/viewtopic.php?p=96871) suggests that
the text and music are hard to track down. I suppose we could see what
the film versions of the CO have, but it would be nice to have sheet
music and words.
If anyone knows if there is a good source either for the music and
songs mentioned in the Cherry Orchard or, at least, for Russian
"cruel" Romances and popular music of 1890-1905 we would greatly
appreciate it. Thanks.
CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS: 15 Years Later: past and present in Soviet/
post-Soviet popular music
15 years since the fall of the Soviet Union it is important to re-
examine our views of popular music under the Soviet regime and to
newly examine the present situation in which post-Soviet popular
music finds itself in.
It goes without saying that the last 15 years brought tremendous
changes in the world of Russian and non-Russian popular music in the
countries of the Former Soviet Union. Initially an identity crisis
brought about by the loss of the role of spiritual, cultural, and
political leadership on the cultural arena that was one of the main
characteristics of Soviet popular music community reigned. This was
followed by a period of self discovery, re-discovery and adaptations
to the new socio-economic, cultural and political reality. Popular
music was subjected to new forces of market economy: issues brought
up by management, image making, marketing, advertisement, etc.
Ideologically and stylistically popular music covered a wide span of
attitudes, styles, beliefs and trends, from ultra nationalist root
folk to sleek Westernized pop and more. We suggest examining these
trends and movements closely from as wide as possible variety of
points of view: social, political, cultural, stylistic,
anthropological, musicological etc.
We also invite discussions and revisionist theories of Soviet popular
music, to provide a fresh view of this phenomenon, from the distance
of 15 years and rich data and new information accumulated since 1991.
We invite papers dealing with these or other related to the history,
traditions and interpretations of Soviet and post-Soviet popular
music to be delivered at the panel we are proposing for the IASPM
conference in Mexico City 2007.
Please send your abstracts (max. 250 words) to Mark Yoffe
(yoffe@...) and David-Emil Wickstroem (davidw@...) by
october 15th 2006
---
OS4MY
david-emil wickström
phd-student
"transformations in russian popular music of the post-soviet era -
case study st. petersburg"
københavns universitet, denmark
www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
"Искусство есть средство для беседы с
людьми, а не цель."
М. П. Мусоргский
this might be of interest for some of you.
regarding the iaspm conference in mexico next
year mark and i are working on an overaching
draft - but the summer vacation kind of slowed us
down a little...
greetings from copenhagen,
david-emil
>Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:47:53 +0200
>From: JOE <liste@...>
>Subject: Konf: 'Storm of Change' - Internat.
>Conf.on Independent Music CEE, Dresden
>8.-10.9.2006
>
>Von: "Kultur Aktiv e.V." <info@...>
>Datum: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:29:04 +0200
>
>Dear all,
>
>we are happy to invite you to our 2nd Conference on Independent Music
>of Central- & Eastern Europe. Musicexperts, amateurs or
>professionals, cultural scientists, associations or initatives
>working in the field of independent/alternative music are friendly
>invited to Dresden, Sept, 8th-10th.
>
>About "Storm of Change":
>
>Central issues will be:
>
>* starting longduration cooperation/networking with and between the
>participants
>* promote the music from CEE in Western Europe and increase the
>perception in the medias
>* public presentation of music from CEE at the evenings Workshops:
>
>Bella Bela - Multilateral projects to support prohibited and
>persuaded musicians in Belarus
>
>Youth of Change - "Strengthening co-operation of local authorities
>and youth initiatives with an European perspective"
>1. Mrs. Ibolya Kov=E1cs (Youth info service Dresden, assistant for
>migration and intercultural learning)
>2. Mr. J=F6rn Timm (EU-Department Dresden, chief officer)
>3. Mrs. Sabine Friedel (City Councilor, Social Democratic Party)
>4. Mr. Phillip Sch=E4fer (ARGE Dresden, Employment office, area manager
>Nord)
>5. Mr. Tobias Heinemann (Culture office Dresden, youth affairs)
>
>Rockmusic in Azerbaidshan, AZRock, Azerbaidshan
>
>Armenian modern Composer Avet Terterian: Sounds from Universe Narek
>Tovmasyan, Armenia
>
>Eastern European Music in local German Cultural Magazines Uwe
>Stuhrberg, chiefeditor Citymagazin SAX, Dresden, Germany
>
>Cultural and youth activities in Caucasus region in 2007, Kultur
>Aktiv, Germany; AZRock, Azerbaidshan; Step Records, Georgia; FK
>Halle, Germany; Cadence Music Centre, Armenia
>
>Tourplanning and Promotion for foreign bands in Germany, Henning
>K=FCpper, Lollipopshop, Germany
>
>Cultural Relations between the sisters Vienna and Bratislava Miro
>Lanik, VRESK agency, Slovakia
>
>Running a label specialized in Eastern European music in the
>"western" world Alex Kasparov, Eastblockmusic, Germany
>
>Music Exchange in the border region Germany-Czechia J=F6rg
>Schittkowski, DK Management, Germany
>
>Cooperation of promoters and bands in Middle and Eastern European
>region, Michal Chalupa, Neosfera, CZ
>
>Storm of Change - Summary and future plans, Mirko Sennewald, Kultur
>Aktiv, Germany
>
>participants: 50 partners from 25 countries of CEE
>languages: English, Russian, German
>
>informations: www.kulturaktiv.org follow link "Storm of Change" and
>find applications, program and further informations
>
>Friendly supported by European Cultural Foundation and Kulturstiftung
>des Freistaates Sachsen
>
>contact and applications:
>Rina Ofer
>e-mail: rina.ofer@...
>Tel.: +49-351-8113755
>=3D> aktuelle Veranstaltungen vgl. unten/dates below
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>- Leiter des Projektb=FCros -
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>Office: Schoenbrunnstr. 1, D - 01097 Dresden
>(open daily 9:00 - 19:00)
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>Dates:
>
>30.08.06 Kultur Aktiv: Lukashenko-Birthday-Party
> w/ DJ Cyberpunk_Ind., Die Genossenschaft, Dresden
>
>08.-10.09.06 Kultur Aktiv: Storm of Change - International
>Conference on Independent Music, Schlo=DF Nickern, Dresden
>
>8.9.06 Radio Moskau Festival: Altanka (BY), Pozvakowski (HU), PPE
>(SK), Herr Beckert und Vergi=DFmeinnicht und ihr
>Universaldruckluftorchester (GER), Schlo=DF Nickern, Dresden
>
>9.9.06 Radio Moskau Festival: Deathcamp Project (PL), Expretus
>(GER), Crowd (LV), Schlo=DF Nickern Dresden
>
>15.09.06 Kultur Aktiv: Brains (HU), Timisoara (RO)
>
>19.-24.9.06 Kultur Aktiv: Wo Europa endet, Seminar, Grodno (BY)
>
>23.9.06 Radio Moskau: La Minor (RU), Tante Ju, Dresden
>
>25.9.-02.10.06 Kultur Aktiv: Music in Georgia, Multiplikatoren auf
>Entdeckungsreise, (GEO)
>
>1.10.06 Radio Moskau: Russkaja (RU/A), Tante Ju, Dresden
>
>8.10.06 Kultur Aktiv: Deutsch-Russisches Fest, WTC, Dresden (tba)
>
>10.10.06 Radio Moskau: Die Ukrainiens (GER), DJ Dr. Hustler,
>Wechselbar, Dresden (tbc)
>
>14.10.06 transmusic: Flaming Cocks (CZ) at Cannabeat, Hanno, Pirna
>
>27.10.06 Radio Moskau: Markscheider Kunst (RU), Tante Ju, Dresden
>
>27.10.-12.11.06 Kultur Aktiv: Festival Pragomania, Dresden
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post-soviet era - case study st. petersburg"
kbenhavns universitet, denmark
www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
"I add that Ech raz, esce raz, esce mnogo mnogo raz, its a typical refrain of gipsy traditional songs"
Yes, I have just such a song on a sbornik of Russkii romansy.
Sergio Mazzanti <sergiomazzanti@...> wrote:
Hallo
Steven,
a lot of Vysockijs songs has no official title; sometimes he changed songs titles in different concerts, or gave no title at all.
Though the more frequent title is Moja cyganskaja (as Evelyn wrote), I found some other ones (Ech raz, Ona na dvor, on so dvora etc.). I add that Ech raz, esce raz, esce mnogo mnogo raz, its a typical refrain of gipsy traditional songs.
Bye
Sergio Mazzanti
(University of Rome)
Da: russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com [mailto:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Prof Steven P Hill Inviato: luned 31 luglio 2006 4.10 A: russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com Oggetto: [russian_popular_music] Russian song/verse title
Dear experts in Russian song:
Please pardon a very elementary question.
What is the official TITLE of the Russian song (and verse), linked with the late Vladimir Vysotskii, whose refrain is worded "Esche raz, mnogo, mnogo raz"? (If it has an official title, that is.)
With gratitude, Steven P Hill, University of Illinois. __ __ __ __ ___ __ __ _
Dear friends:
Some you may have heard of the late John Garvey, others may not. But the
following obituary should be of interest to everyone. -- Steven P. Hill.
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Former music professor championed jazz studies at UI [University of Illinois]
By Paul Wood
Thursday August 3, 2006
The News Gazette [ daily published in Champaign, IL, USA ]
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John Garvey, shown in this 1969 photo, died July 18. The music professor
emeritus was 85. A classical musician who went on to create the University
of Illinois Jazz Band, John Garvey embraced Russian folk music and Balinese
gamelan in his several lives.
The music professor emeritus died July 18 at age 85 in Maryland.
In four decades here, he mentored dozens of jazz musicians,
flabbergasted some of the more traditional professors in his department,
introduced many to music of other cultures and excelled in arcane poker
variations.
A large man, Mr. Garvey was typically conspicuous, whether cruising campus
on his moped or holding court at coffeehouses.
Bruno Nettl, a professor emeritus of music and anthropology, said he
expects his friend will be "most remembered for his championing of jazz
studies, which he carried out for a time against considerable opposition,
but which has now become a major component in the School of Music."
Dorothy Martirano, who was his only violin student and later played with
him both in quartets and in his Russian orchestra, called her mentor
"amazing." She said she trusted him absolutely.
"I didn't have a violin for quite a long while. He told me about one he
saw in Amsterdam in a shop window, and after taking in lots of
expensive ones, I finally bought (the Amsterdam violin) sight unseen.
It worked out well," she said.
Another student he mentored, Jeff Helgesen, said he will never forget
sitting in the coffeehouse/bar Treno's in Urbana, listening to Mr. Garvey
expound on subjects, sometimes repeating himself, but always
challenging listeners to find new ways to look at things.
Funeral services were held July 23 at the Holy Apostles Orthodox Church,
Beltsville, Md., with arrangements by Philip D. Rinaldi Funeral Service.
There will also be a memorial service at the UI, tentatively set for Oct. 14.
Mr. Garvey was born March 17, 1921, in Canonsburg, Pa. He is survived
by a son, Frank D. Garvey; two daughters, Deborah Garvey Johnson and
Deirdre Ann Garvey; and four grandchildren.
Johnson said her father was a wonderful teacher.
"He gave me a sense of the great potential that exists in every person,"
she said.
"He did many wonderful things in his life. But for every thing that he
accomplished successfully, he probably failed at 10 others. The key was
that he didn't get discouraged if something did not work out. He always
had many projects in the making. If it became apparent that one wouldn't
work, he would be disappointed, yes, but then he just went on to the
next thing."
Mr. Garvey attended Temple University, studying violin under Alfred
Lorenz. He joined the UI faculty in 1948 when the prestigious Walden
String Quartet was brought here from Cornell as quartet-in-residence.
Garvey continued as the principal teacher of viola.
He remained a member of the quartet into the 1970s, more than a decade
after he founded the UI Jazz Band. He also conducted the School of Music's
chamber orchestra and remained the principal faculty member in the jazz
field until his retirement in 1991.
He was instrumental in bringing new and experimental music to Urbana,
conducting at the biennial Festival of Contemporary Arts in the 1960s
and early 1970s. He helped arrange guest residencies at the Urbana campus
for innovators and composers of new music, such as Harry Partch and John
Cage, according to a press release from the school.
In the 1970s, Garvey began traveling to Russia and to Southeast Asia, in
part to study performance of indigenous musics. He became an expert
in Russian instrumental folk music and established the local Russian Folk
Orchestra, which he conducted for more than a decade, and which toured
widely in the United States and abroad. He also studied South Indian vocal
music with a visiting professor from India. He traveled repeatedly to Java
and Bali to hear music and collect art, instruments and textiles, which he
later sold in a Champaign shop he called Nomad.
His Bali collection was given to the Spurlock Museum [at the UI] in 2003.
Helgesen said many of the alumni of the UI Jazz Band in the 1970s ended
up in Chicago. The Jazz Members Big Band was a product of alumni of the
UI Jazz Band. It's now the Chicago Jazz Orchestra under the direction of
Jeff Lindberg, Helgesen said.
In his later years, Martirano remembers, the professor developed a
strong interest in Balinese gamelan, which uses cymbals and other
metallic instruments and features sudden changes in tempo and dynamics.
Mr. Garvey bought an entire set of gamelan instruments, which stayed
in Bali for a long time before he could find a way to have them shipped
to Champaign.
His daughter noted that he could make changes in his personal and
spiritual life as well. In his last few years, living in Maryland, he embraced
the Russian Orthodox faith.
Find this article [with photo] at:
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/2006/08/03/former_music_professor_championed_ja\
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a lot of Vysockij’s
songs has no “official title”; sometimes he changed songs titles in
different concerts, or gave no title at all.
Though the more frequent
title is “Moja cyganskaja” (as Evelyn wrote), I found some other
ones (“Ech raz”, “Ona na dvor, on so dvora” etc.). I
add that “Ech raz, esce raz, esce mnogo mnogo raz”, it’s a
typical refrain of gipsy traditional songs.
Bye
Sergio Mazzanti
(University of Rome)
Da:
russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com] Per conto di Prof Steven P Hill Inviato: lunedì 31 luglio
2006 4.10 A:
russian_popular_music@yahoogroups.com Oggetto: [russian_popular_music]
Russian song/verse title
Dear
experts in Russian song:
Please pardon a very elementary question.
What is the official TITLE of the Russian song (and verse), linked with
the late Vladimir Vysotskii, whose refrain is worded "Esche raz, mnogo,
mnogo raz"? (If it has an official title, that is.)
With gratitude,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
__ __ __ __ ___ __ __ _
Dear Mr. Hill,
the title of the song is "Moia tsyganskaia". Though I don't know if this is the
"official" title or if it has various titles.
Best wishes,
Evelyn Radke
> Dear experts in Russian song:
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> Please pardon a very elementary question.
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> What is the official TITLE of the Russian song (and verse), linked with
> the late Vladimir Vysotskii, whose refrain is worded "Esche raz, mnogo,
> mnogo raz"? (If it has an official title, that is.)
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> With gratitude,
> Steven P Hill,
> University of Illinois.
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Dear experts in Russian song:
Please pardon a very elementary question.
What is the official TITLE of the Russian song (and verse), linked with
the late Vladimir Vysotskii, whose refrain is worded "Esche raz, mnogo,
mnogo raz"? (If it has an official title, that is.)
With gratitude,
Steven P Hill,
University of Illinois.
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hi,
just found this at russia profile, might be interesting for some of
you (although some minor mistakes like when the leningrad rock club
was founded).
greetings from a too hot copenhagen
dew
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July 24, 2006
Children of the Revolution
By Alexander Bratersky
Special to Russia Profile
http://www.russiaprofile.org/culture/article.wbp?article-
id=78B86515-0AA6-4E0A-9BAA-23439709731E
In August 1991, rock musicians like Andrei Makarevich and Yury
Shevchuk stood outside the White House with President Boris Yeltsin,
united in their rage against the Soviet machine. Today they are
completely divided in their feelings about politics, youth and their
place in Russian culture.
While Shevchuk still writes songs about the social situation in
Russia and lends his voice to the opposition, Makarevich prefers to
remain apart from both politics and the authorities.
Like any ordinary person, I can see the power governments have over
us. And the less I am involved in politics, the better I feel, said
Andrei Makarevich, leader of the rock group Mashina Vremeni (Time
Machine).
Originally trained as an art teacher, Shevchuk often targets popsa,
the currently dominant cheesy popular culture in his songs, but he
says that pop culture is a reflection of the political situation.
Why is our government trying to support popular music? Because in
both music and politics, everything is interconnected, Shevchuk said
in an interview with the liberal Russian daily Novaya Gazeta. During
the Soviet times they used marches, but today they use popular tunes.
Shevchuks political statements, along with his songs including one
dedicated to Dmitry Kolesnikov, commander of the doomed submarine
Kursk are supported by liberal politicians like Gregory Yavlinsky,
the head of the Yabloko party, who are trying to reach out to
Russias youth.
He is trying to make serious music, which is why he fights against
the popsa while Yabloko is trying to make politics serious by
fighting against political popsa, Yavlinsky said.
Shevchuk, frontman of the group DDT, was the only Russian rock
musician to play in Kievs Independence Square during the Orange
Revolution. I had a great week, during which I had the freedom to
say whatever I wanted. Unfortunately I felt very sad upon returning
to Russia, Shevchuk said in the same interview with Novaya Gazeta.
Rock idol Konstantin Kinchev received an award for supporting
democratic forces in St. Petersburg in August 1991, but returned his
medal after Yeltsin fired on protestors at the White House in October
1993. While he has become a devout Russian Orthodox Christian and an
ardent supporter of President Vladimir Putin, Kinchev does not
support the government wholeheartedly.
In an interview with the Russian edition of Rolling Stone, Kinchev
said he would support a successor named by Putin, but he has refused
to meet with representatives of the current presidential
administration. For now, I have heard only words from this
administration, and have not seen any deeds, Kinchev said.
The influence of musicians in Ukraines Orange Revolution made the
Russian authorities reevaluate their relationship with rock stars. In
April 2005, Vyacheslav Surkov, deputy head of the presidential
administration and an amateur songwriter, invited several prominent
rockers to the Kremlin, including rock guru Boris Grebenshchikov,
Zemfira, and the Bi-2 band, best known for its song Nobody Writes to
the Colonel.
According to Grebenshchikov, during the meeting with the musicians
Surkov discussed the contentious issues of copyright piracy in
contemporary Russia and the absence of quality rock on television.
Most political critics perceived the meeting differently, however.
In a report, the Moscow-based Center for Current Politics in Russia
characterized the meeting as the next logical step for the Kremlin
administration, given that during the Orange Revolution, rock bands
became one of the channels to communicate the revolutionary ideas and
influence to the young.
Rock musicians have always had complicated relationships with
authorities, which were afraid of their influence, but also hoped to
harness it. In 1986, for example, the KGB helped several rock
musicians open a club in St. Petersburg (then Leningrad). This
summer, Zemfira, Bi-2 and Lube, a group known for its patriotic
songs, performed at the summer camp of the pro-Kremlin youth group
Nashi.
Former producer Ivan Demidov has become one of the leaders of
Molodaya Gvardiya, the youth wing of the United Russia party, while
former Lube guitarist Alexander Vainberg now serves as head of the
United Russia faction in the Nizhny Novgorod regional parliament.
Even music critic Maxim Kononenko, aka Mr. Parker, serves as a co-
host of the television show Bolshaya Politika with Kremlin insider
Gleb Pavlovsky.
A lot of todays politicians grew up listening to the music of
Russian rockers, said independent music critic Timur Arkhangelsky,
who cites a free rock concert in Moscow organized by United Russia as
an example. Now the authorities offer support by helping them
perform at big festivals.
Many rock musicians became close to the current authorities for two
reasons, said Vasily Yakimenko, one of the leaders of Nashi. First,
they became older; and second, they began to relate to the officials
as friends rather than as oppressors.
Ironically, even the name of Yakimenkos movement, Nashi (Ours),
alludes to Nashe Radio, a Russian rock radio station founded by the
prominent music producer Mikhail Kozirev in the mid-1990s. The
station was owned by exiled media mogul Boris Berezovsky and News
Corporations Chairman Rupert Murdoch, and originally played only
Russian-language rock music.
In naming our group Nashi, we wanted our members to be those who
wanted to live free in a free country. I think that Kozirev was
thinking about the same audience, Yakimenko explained.
According to media reports, Nashi even approached Kozirev about
working on their musical projects, but Kozirev, known for his liberal
views, refused. I told them that pregnant women should listen to
patriotic songs and that children should be conceived while the
national anthem is playing, Kozirev said sarcastically. Kozirev left
the station in 2005 primarily for political reasons.
While some older rock musicians have become more conservative and
aligned themselves with the government, a new breed of amateur
rockers is united by different goals and aims. One of them is the
punk band Change the World Without Taking Power, or SWWTP, which
combines explicit lyrics with political messages.
Power is made from black rubber from police batons, sings one of
the bands leaders, Vladimir, 23, better known as Ukrop (Dill). He is
also a member of the radical anti-fascist movement and fights with
skinheads on the street.
While some say that you cant fight violence with violence, if we do
not fight them they will kill us, Ukrop said, defending his
clashes with skinheads who often target the bands members.
Right now, SWWTP is not widely known in the music world; it plays for
a select group of fans and sends information about its concerts
through text messages and posting on a web journal. The groups fans
are too young to remember August 1991.
Music critic Arkhangelsky believes that it would be very hard for
todays underground musicians to repeat the successes of the past
rockers and bring back the spirit of 1991. Their audience is a small
minority. Grebenshchikov and Kinchev were aligning themselves with
the masses. These guys need to explain to the people that we needed a
new revolution.
Russia Profile 2005
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david-emil wickstrm
phd-student
"transformations in russian popular music of the post-soviet era -
case study st. petersburg"
kbenhavns universitet, denmark
www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
Hi,
I work on popular music in Ukraine and would like to contribute
something on hip hop and musique concrete in Kyiv.
Best,
Adriana Helbig
Quoting "Crescente, Joseph James" <jjcresce@...>:
> Hi,
> I am currently writing a paper on Verka Serdiuchka, but I'd be
> happy to
> put something together on Leningrad or Indy rock in Russia as
> well...
>
> Best,
> Joe
>
> Quoting david-emil wickstrm <damil@...>:
>
> > hi!
> >
> > At 17:10 Uhr -0700 18.07.2006, Stephen Amico wrote:
> >> If I go to the conference, I'd be more than
> >> happy to join a Russian panel - if it's doable.
> >> Great idea.
> >
> > cool :-) anybody else interested? we could do a
> > panel on contemporary popular music in st.
> > petersburg or russia (under the stream "Nation,
> > Region, City") or maybe under the stream "Popular
> > and Unpopular Musics" ;-)
> >
> >> (btw - when is the deadline for submissions, if
> >> you know off the top of your head?)
> >
> > November 15, 2006, so there is still some time
> >
> > david-emil
> >
> > p.s.: thank you ilia for your comments regarding the ny times
> article
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> > david-emil wickstrm
> > phd-student
> > "transformations in russian popular music of the
> > post-soviet era - case study st. petersburg"
> > kbenhavns universitet, denmark
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All my work is on (homo)sexuality and popsa, so I'd be hard pressed to do anything on, say, Chanson or Indy rock - but if there's a more "eclectic" panel, I'm sure I can come up with something...
"Crescente, Joseph James" <jjcresce@...> wrote:
Hi, I am currently writing a paper on Verka Serdiuchka, but I'd be happy to put something together on Leningrad or Indy rock in Russia as well...
> hi! > > At 17:10 Uhr -0700 18.07.2006, Stephen Amico wrote: >> If I go to the conference, I'd be more than >> happy to join a Russian panel - if it's doable. >> Great idea. > > cool :-) anybody else interested? we could do a > panel on contemporary popular music in st. > petersburg or russia (under the stream "Nation, > Region, City") or maybe under the stream "Popular > and Unpopular Musics" ;-) > >> (btw - when is the deadline for submissions, if >> you know off the top of your head?) > > November 15, 2006, so there is still some time > > david-emil > > p.s.: thank you ilia for your comments regarding the ny times article > -- > OS4MY > > david-emil wickstrm > phd-student > "transformations in russian popular music of the >
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Hi,
I am currently writing a paper on Verka Serdiuchka, but I'd be happy to
put something together on Leningrad or Indy rock in Russia as well...
Best,
Joe
Quoting david-emil wickstrm <damil@...>:
> hi!
>
> At 17:10 Uhr -0700 18.07.2006, Stephen Amico wrote:
>> If I go to the conference, I'd be more than
>> happy to join a Russian panel - if it's doable.
>> Great idea.
>
> cool :-) anybody else interested? we could do a
> panel on contemporary popular music in st.
> petersburg or russia (under the stream "Nation,
> Region, City") or maybe under the stream "Popular
> and Unpopular Musics" ;-)
>
>> (btw - when is the deadline for submissions, if
>> you know off the top of your head?)
>
> November 15, 2006, so there is still some time
>
> david-emil
>
> p.s.: thank you ilia for your comments regarding the ny times article
> --
> OS4MY
>
> david-emil wickstrm
> phd-student
> "transformations in russian popular music of the
> post-soviet era - case study st. petersburg"
> kbenhavns universitet, denmark
> www.ikso.net/~dew/phd.php
>