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Re: Thoughts on PW

finally someone honest and not just a lapdog licking the face of the
master


--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Diniakos" <itlnqt.lapd@v...> wrote:
> I've listened thru several times and find myself completely
underwhelmed. I am not a young guy at all, 49, but this work seems
ponderous and it reeks of stodgy Old Guy. I, too, have lost my dad
and am getting older, but I have very high standards of expection
from my very favorite muse, and this falls far short. I'm no
musician, but the very melody structures seem the same as from AYP
and Greendale. Neil needs to challenge himself and write more in
depth, not knock out a song in 20 minutes (and brag about it!). Does
he have the guts to place himself in the hands of a strong, talented
producer, who would do what a good one's supposed to do, accent the
music and flavor it so it sounds the best?
> On a basic level, I, as a Neil fanatic, welcome all music he
releases. Even with the feelings I'm writing about, I like having new
Neil songs to listen to. I like the choir and Emmylou very much, as
well. My main allegiance to Neil is his electric rock incarnation. I
don't listen to country music anything. As I wrote just a bit ago, I
have only seen two of his solo acoustic tours, and I've seen him over
20 times. I'm sure this bias I have slants my point of view, but I
predict a Neil/Pegi country/acoustic PW tour.
> Mark
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]







Wed Oct 5, 2005 1:33 pm

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Personally, I think the album is better than Neil's previous two albums, because of the melodies alone. The melodies of the songs are more consistently...
Ian Rosen
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Oct 5, 2005
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finally someone honest and not just a lapdog licking the face of the master ... underwhelmed. I am not a young guy at all, 49, but this work seems ponderous...
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Oct 5, 2005
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... From: "Diniakos" <itlnqt.lapd@...> and I've seen him over 20 times. I'm sure this bias I have slants my point of view, but I predict a Neil/Pegi...
Mark Georg
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Oct 5, 2005
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I'd prefer the band that was at Farm Aid. Maybe dust off Grey Riders, Interstate, Southern Pacific?? Based on the Southern Man from FA, he can still rock out...
twenty_first_century_...
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Oct 5, 2005
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Jules wrote: <<<<<<<<<<<<I agree with this. I don't think that Neil's knock-'em-out approach method is generating enough top drawer material. Maybe he's...
Stephen Taton
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Oct 6, 2005
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Mr Taton writes:<<... Some writers spend hours and hours on one song until it is "perfect." Some write whenever they feel like it and go back to songs days...
Dennis M. Widdows
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Oct 6, 2005
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... evening ... I have been trying not to subscribe to XM, but it is becoming increasingly difficult. Steve Taton Destination Still Unnamed ...
Stephen Taton
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... Trick question? Cinnamon Girl and Down By The River of course. Which underlines the point you were making. Many a masterpiece is the product of inner...
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Oct 6, 2005
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Lest we forget "Ordinary People", "Sixty to Zero"(full), and "Days That Used To Be" all in the same day as well. And the only thing he was sick of that day was...
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A horse with no name, Sweet Caroline and Oh Carol? Jose, I don't know......
Jose
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Steve Taton wrote: As for Neil, I don't know if he would really write any better if he edited and re-edited his songs. Sometimes, the lines he would edit out...
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... Hear hear, JG. Totally agree. If Neil would only take the time to improve his more generic lines he could maintain the high standards he set for his...
The Family Jules
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Oct 7, 2005
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Jules said... ... But, and obviously this is hugely personal, I think some of his best lines are the ones that clunk the worst on first listen. Without Rings...
John Duncan
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... Personally, I think this line only works on paper. Musically, it's just one of those cringe moments that I really can't get past. Respectfully, Tom...
Tom Hambleton
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Oct 7, 2005
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I am not wild about the tick tock part, but you guys, the brilliance of the line and the neilness of it all is in the end of the line . . . No wonder we're...
Karen
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When my kids were much younger they had a 'See and Say'. Kinda like this one: ...
barreloflaughs
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This quickly became and has been since I got my copy of PW my favorite tune on the album. The one tune on the album with a bit of "edge" to it. Was it after...
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Oct 7, 2005
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Oops...I meant to say: the Painter & No Wonder certainly diffrent than the rest of the album as these first two tunes are NOT as reflective as the others. I'm...
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Yes, Ron...your post is reflective of that........ barrel of mirrors dironstarr@... wrote: I'm glad it's Friday..... ... Yahoo! for Good Click here to...
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Ron, you are correct. Neil had 'The Painter' completed and at least parts of 'No Wonder' worked out before the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame gig. This info from...
Charlie Macon
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Oct 7, 2005
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... I like it, too, but it's a song that could have benefited from a little more craft, lyrically. It contains my least favorite line on the entire album ... ...
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Oct 8, 2005
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... BOY BLUNDER See the Batman fly hanging on a string Singing and swinging past the moon Could he be the one I saw on CBS Or is he a primitive cartoon This...
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... BOY BLUNDER See the Batman fly hanging on a string Singing and swinging past the moon<<<<<< That's a work of genius! My complements. I'd like to hear it...
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Henry Moon wrote: <snip> ... sung that way. Maybe you could sell it to "Weird Al" Yankovic. How long did it take you to write that? Three and a half minutes....
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Oct 10, 2005
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It's not an original line, at least I can remember The Musical Box by Genesis "and the clock tick tock". I mean Peter Gabriel's Genesis before Phil Collins...
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... Subject: Re: Thoughts on PW It's not an original line, at least I can remember The Musical Box by Genesis "and the clock tick tock". I mean Peter Gabriel's...
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