http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSjoXy5V4kE  There's a comment from
"fuzzypige222" who is clearly not a fan. That's fine, but due to their tone, I
do plan to let them know how wrong they are. If anyone wants to join me, feel
free!

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The single minded aspects seem to have caused Neil's friends a few problems...

I guess Neil thinks it pays to be strong.

He was bullied and had a tough time in his younger days...so it is maybe his
coping strategy (?)

Another rust trait....love hate relationship with politics?

And concern for Mother Earth.

Some sense of religion...in the broadest sense?

Nick

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Old Man Emu or for Rust: And I fell into a dream"
<garycarter2118@...> wrote:
>
> Good question Nick.
>
> Rebellious, independent, fun loving - tick
>
> I despise rules and regulation but then I like to see how thinks work and
unwork and I like to break things - not people but processes. I was an IT
Auditor for the first 15 years of my professional life !
>
> I'm not like Neil in the single minded sense, he can change course on a dime
and follow the muse. A lot of what I do is to help other people - try to make
the loser win. But, I really need something to hang onto and to return to as a
safety base - calling me to bring my guitar home.
>
> I find I can hang onto him, because of his singer songwriter quality, depth
and variation but mostly I think it is the lyrical mystery, I can listen to an
album or track over and over and try to work out his meaning and my
interpretation. Broken Arrow for example as you asked the other day ! Buffalo
Springfield, 6 lines to describe the words Peace Offering, JFK ? I don't know.
>
> I'd just like to understand this mysterious person called Shakey. But then I
don't want to understand then fun is the continual exploration.
>
> Sometimes though I wish he were a she. But then that may be worse ! Yikes.
>
> Gary
> and I fell into a dream
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting. I imagine many Rusties are rebellious, independent, fun loving,
like having a network of friends...and of course love Neil's music.
> >
> > Well, most of it.
> >
> > And we like to chew the fat.....  ;-)
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "julesalexgray" <julesalexgray@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What are the character traits that are common to Rusties?
> > >
> > > We're a pretty disparate bunch.
> > >
> > > > Are we at all like Neil?
> > >
> > > Well he's quite disparte too!  ;-)
> > >
> > > > Does he see us the same way?  ;-)
> > >
> > > Artist/fan relationships are never a level playing field.  He probably
sees us as his bread and butter, but perhaps as being over-zealous and therefore
he needs to keep us at arms-length for the sake of his sanity and safety.  You
know, just in case we might be a bit...unhinged!  I'm sure most of us are an
amourphous mass to him really.
> > >
> > > Decade
> > >
> >
>

Bands used to work on 6 months on one song that is why they call them recording
artists. Bands like the Dan took years to make a record, they felt they owed-it
to the fans. In the seventys baby boomers started to make money, they bought
expensive hardware which meant they had disposable income to buy software for
their home and car that is why Framton and Boston sold 15 million records and
Pepper did not. No one had hardware when the Beatles came just dads hi-fi.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Zumafan
   To: rust@...
   Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 4:14 PM
   Subject: Re: [Rust] Broken Arrow...The Meaning.



   "Broken Arrow"...
   "It's an image of being very scared and mixed up. The broken arrow is an
   Indian sign of peace after losing a war. A broken arrow usually means that
   somebody has lost a lot.
   Even back then I thought the way records were being made in the 60's was
   wrong. But I didn't know what was wrong with it. It just didn't sound right.
   I mean, the Springfield records are terrible compared to what the band sounded
   like." 1992

    BROKEN ARROW…
   "I wrote this after quitting group in '67 due to one of my many identity
   crisis. Joined up again soon enough to cut this one though. Took over 100
takes
   to get it." 1978




    BROKEN ARROW…
   "The basic track took 100 takes...I just wanna say it took Elvis over 100
takes
   to get 'Hound Dog' right, so let's not forget that." 1981

    tom
   "PEACE is Patriotic"

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This is great!

I feel like I was there...lost in thoughts about the words.

Between the lines of Rusties.

Thanks!

Nick
--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Old Man Emu or for Rust: And I fell into a dream"
<garycarter2118@...> wrote:
>
> Dennis, another A+ report my friend. It's a pity you are not going to more
concerts.
>
> If they make a film DVD of this tour then AG should seek your permission to
include your notes in the packaging.
>
> Have a safe trip.
>
> Gary
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, dst3@ wrote:
> >
> > Baltimore
> > I woke up the second day
> > Elliot is talking to me
> > His words have remained in the mist of dreams
> > There is a sign
> >
> > Baltimore
> > It is New York by Will Eisner:
> > "Go out into the street and take a seat"
> > So people know they can talk with you
> > There is a sign
> > That I have never seen in another fucking city in the world
> >
> > Baltimore
> > On the way to the Hippodrome
> > Young people put their brushes on the sidewalk
> > Their colors on a wooden palisade
> > There is a sign
> > Art in motion - Coming back to the show I looked at their work. Good job!
> >
> > I see Stew again, like many people from Baltimore
> > He doesn't understand any word from Bert
> > Fortunately I haven't got English accent
> > There is a sign
> >
> > Front of the stage
> > Thrasher and Karen "love and affection"
> > Are neighbours by chance, I'm at the fourth raw
> > We all got a great seat
> > The audience brings the sun that has failed
> > Bert is even surprised about his glory tonight!
> >
> > Then Neil came over and took a seat
> > Talking about rust working
> > And ever going to heaven
> > Just as the lies that we forget when we're with him
> > The harmonica can give two extra voices on a blue beautiful "Helpless"
> > It can answer to the questions.
> > Red pain grips us
> > Larry L. A. Johnson, simply
> > Red pain grips us
> > The age of the old man saw the future of the valley
> > Love and war will never be as mythology!
> > And Neil gives some guitar lessons to Bert!
> > Purple touch, sometimes tinged by rust, lives down by the river
> > Leads to the cascade of colors, dumping us in his turbulent private life
> > Far from Baltimore...
> > Neil plays with his heart
> > Neil walks on the path of his heart
> > Path that seemed lost forever...
> > Some sounds from ARC are coming back from last night
> > Neil laughs in his inner
> > I know he can't play ARC every night
> > We know he'll have no more than one spectator
> > The soldiers were toys on May 4, 1970
> > Have they changed much today?
> > There is a sign
> > There is a sign
> > For those who have eyes
> > For those who can see love
> > Seated at the right piano, "this is a song for little people, tiny little
> > people, They couln't come here tonight, Mama said 'nope', but grandpas maybe
are
> > here" (and what about Granpa's Leia? Among us tonight?)
> > "After The Gold Rush" is completely under organ dusk.
> > Harmonica is casting a last daylight
> > Under a bright moon light
> > Neil comes to us and watching us
> > Under a bright moon light
> > I believe in you
> > Neil stands up, walks away and comes back stroking the colors of wood
> > Ha, ha! I also believe in you as impish kid!
> > I believe in you
> > Neil take again Gretsch and has that in question
> > It is not plugged!
> > Rotten or approximate sound, tech-note video, Gretsch guitar
> > There is a sign
> > One beer may quiet your mind and Neil knows
> > One good beer when the ground is rumbling
> > Remember the awesome Cortez? It was yesterday.
> > I enjoyed myself and I'll play it again in the same style
> > ARC POWER!
> > Thank you again, Neil!
> > In life, there's Cinnamon Girl
> > That's it!
> > Neil waves us and goes in his cage
> > Then he comes back! All the Hippodrome is up!
> > I walk with you
> > I will as you are willing to leave your cage
> > The guitar is rumbling on its base
> > While Neil is walking alone on stage
> > There is a sign
> > But some big harms won't let us walk beside Neil!
> > So Neil goes out of my sight
> >
> > Baltimore
> > There, a girl said to me
> > Go to Washington
> > And meet Gauguin from me
> > And he accepted
> > He said to me: "Be in love and you'll be happy"
> > There's a sign
> >
> > Once I heard a guy singing:
> > "Philadelphia, city of brotherly love"
> > Baltimore, Baltimore, Baltimore
> > In another world
> > I know my life is here
> > There are more than a sign
> >
> > Denis between the Rusty Words
> > April 30, 2011
> >
> > ps: tonight, my last show before to come back home!!! See you!!!
> >
>

Hi all

David James and Inside Out are playing the legendary Ace Cafe in North London on
Saturday 21 May.

Those of you that came to the NYAS Convention last September will remember just
how good David and the band are.

For those of you that don't know:

http://www.youtube.com/user/nunkaval#p/u


The venue:

http://www.ace-cafe-london.com/default.aspx

And for any petrol heads - there will be some very cool cars there too!

Be good to see some of you there.

Paul

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Osburn" wrote:
>
> Bands used to work on 6 months on one song that is why they
> call them recording artists. Bands like the Dan took years
> to make a record, they felt they owed-it to the fans.

Several points to make here:-

1) Very few bands ever spent 6 months on a track.

2) It's actually far more likely that a modern artist spends that long on a
track.  Bands of the 60s could make an album in a couple of days.  Bands of the
70s would usually spend 6 months on a whole album.

3) The longer a band spend on a track then the more likely that they lose the
spirit of the thing and overcook it.  See recent REM records for proof.

4) The Dan were more obsessional than most bands and so were actually an
exception.

5) I actually doubt that they spent that long on a track to please their fans. 
They did it because they were perfectionist nerds!

Decade

Fagan certainly was a perfecionist with Steely Dan - I recall reading that he
could pick out any musician's mistake in the studio even where they would think
they had played a piece very well.The recorded evidence when played back proved
Fagan correct.

But yes perfectionist nerds,but what great records they produced as such.

John
eldo

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "julesalexgray" <julesalexgray@...> wrote:
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Osburn" wrote:
> >
> > Bands used to work on 6 months on one song that is why they
> > call them recording artists. Bands like the Dan took years
> > to make a record, they felt they owed-it to the fans.
>
> Several points to make here:-
>
> 1) Very few bands ever spent 6 months on a track.
>
> 2) It's actually far more likely that a modern artist spends that long on a
track.  Bands of the 60s could make an album in a couple of days.  Bands of the
70s would usually spend 6 months on a whole album.
>
> 3) The longer a band spend on a track then the more likely that they lose the
spirit of the thing and overcook it.  See recent REM records for proof.
>
> 4) The Dan were more obsessional than most bands and so were actually an
exception.
>
> 5) I actually doubt that they spent that long on a track to please their fans.
They did it because they were perfectionist nerds!
>
> Decade
>

Good article in The Guuardian in the UK on The Monkees rise and fall with 
particular reference to their cult movie 'Head' - and stuff such as the
following:

-- 'Hurt by (accurate) claims that they didn't play on their own records, the
band practised hard and went out on tour. Led by Nesmith, who told Dolenz the
process was like Pinocchio becoming a real little boy, they seized creative
control with their third album, Headquarters, and became bona fide rock stars.
They hung out with the Beatles and toured with Jimi Hendrix as support. During
one visit to Tork's Laurel Canyon mansion, singer Jackson Browne later recalled:
"Jimi Hendrix was up there jamming with Buddy Miles in the pool house, and
Peter's girlfriend was playing the drums, naked."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/apr/28/monkees-head-jack-nicholson-intervie\
w


John
eldo

Happy Birthday, Jackie.  Have the greatest of days, sistah!!!

Peace, Paintin' and Smilin' from all four directions
Kathy HGS

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2011, at 1:28 AM, "Meleya F. Dionne" <mballou@...> wrote:

> Please join me in wishing Jackie Jacobs a Very Happy Rusted Birthday! I hope
> you have a wonderful day and a great year ahead.
>
> Meleya.Giving off Light
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!

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Well done Greg!

Young in years,Old Ways.
An excellent choice as ROTM!!

John
Eldo

Sent from my iPhone

On 1 May 2011, at 13:36, "bob ballerstein" <helpless@...> wrote:

> Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Congratulations Greg


Stringy

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "bob ballerstein" <helpless@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

It's an honour for me to congratulate the young Greg as ROTM.

So Tired.

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "bob ballerstein" <helpless@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

The Dan expected perfection and genius...to match their own ;-)


I'm sure many egos were bruised recording those albums. Elliot Randall seems
pretty philosophical about it. He recorded the great solo for Reelin in the
years without practice, to make it sound fresh. They used the 2nd take but he
prefers the 1st.

Seems a nice guy who lives mainly on London with a recording studio.

Nick


--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "John" <johndenley@...> wrote:
>
> Fagan certainly was a perfecionist with Steely Dan - I recall reading that he
could pick out any musician's mistake in the studio even where they would think
they had played a piece very well.The recorded evidence when played back proved
Fagan correct.
>
> But yes perfectionist nerds,but what great records they produced as such.
>
> John
> eldo
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "julesalexgray" <julesalexgray@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas Osburn" wrote:
> > >
> > > Bands used to work on 6 months on one song that is why they
> > > call them recording artists. Bands like the Dan took years
> > > to make a record, they felt they owed-it to the fans.
> >
> > Several points to make here:-
> >
> > 1) Very few bands ever spent 6 months on a track.
> >
> > 2) It's actually far more likely that a modern artist spends that long on a
track.  Bands of the 60s could make an album in a couple of days.  Bands of the
70s would usually spend 6 months on a whole album.
> >
> > 3) The longer a band spend on a track then the more likely that they lose
the spirit of the thing and overcook it.  See recent REM records for proof.
> >
> > 4) The Dan were more obsessional than most bands and so were actually an
exception.
> >
> > 5) I actually doubt that they spent that long on a track to please their
fans.  They did it because they were perfectionist nerds!
> >
> > Decade
> >
>

BOUT TIME    CONGRATS LITTLE BROTHER GREG!
jack/greg fan

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Congratulations, Greg. You've always been such a nice person, and it's been a
pleasure reading your funny, informative and cool messages over the years. I'll
play the 11/20/73 Neil show to celebrate.

Ian
silver wings of morning

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, clark8114@... wrote:
>
> BOUT TIME    CONGRATS LITTLE BROTHER GREG!
> jack/greg fan

Cool!
And congrats!

Sent from my iPod

On May 1, 2011, at 8:36 AM, "bob ballerstein" <helpless@...> wrote:

> Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Nice one, The Gregster!  :-)

Decade

Yahoo Greg !!! He joins the many ROTM's.  Congratulations!
Can you bring us warmer weather ?

Peace, Paintin' and Smilin' from all four directions
Kathy HGS

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2011, at 10:14 AM, clark8114@... wrote:

> BOUT TIME CONGRATS LITTLE BROTHER GREG!
> jack/greg fan
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Yup.  At the time I posted, Amazon had not made the distinction, or put up the
cover art, which are both now on their site.

(Still no BD version though)

--PunkDavid


--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "hmj1985" <harmkuijpers@...> wrote:
>
> One of 'em is 140g the other 180g. That's why.
>
> -Harm
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "punkdavid40" <punkdavid40@> wrote:
> >
> > So, it appears that the vinyl version of A Treasure is now available for
pre-order on Amazon, with not one but TWO links to products (at different
prices, no less).
> >
> >
http://www.amazon.com/Treasure-Neil-Young/dp/B004XRJXKE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1\
304112846&sr=8-3
> >
> >
http://www.amazon.com/Treasure-Neil-Young/dp/B004VB9JB0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1\
304112846&sr=8-4
> >
> > No CD/BD combo pack yet though...
> >
> > --PunkDavid
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "punkdavid40" <punkdavid40@> wrote:
> > >
> > > To Whom It May Concern:
> > >
> > > I am very interested in purchasing the CD/BD combo pack of A Treasure.  I
am so interested, in fact, that I have been checking Amazon and other online
retailers several times a day for nearly a week awaiting the pre-sale so I can
get me order in.
> > >
> > > To this point, no CD/BD combo has shown up, and the only pre-order offer
I've seen has been for the "audio CD" on Amazon.  I don't know if this is the
combo pack (it's a bit expensive for just a CD), so I have my order in just in
case.
> > >
> >
>

A "Rustie" is what I hope to be when I grow up.

--PunkDavid



--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@...> wrote:
>
> What are the character traits that are common to Rusties?
>
> Are we at all like Neil?
>
> Does he see us the same way?  ;-)
>
> Just wonderin'....
>
> Nick
>

The rustie chat is a weekly online gathering in an IRC chatroom.
NO MEMBERSHIP REQUIRED! And rust radio is running at the same time, so
this is a good chance to talk to other rusties while listening to the
same music!

There is an easy option to join in, using a website. Scroll down to read
more. Better choice is using an IRC client (a chat program), available
for any platform for free - we're on EFNet, the channel ist #rusties

The chat starts Sunday 9 pm Eastern/6 pm Pacific/3 am CET (yes, that's
Monday morning in Central Europe). There'a also a more European
concentrated chat 5 hours earlier (10 pm Central European Time) in the
same room.

Further information about the rustie chat can be found here:
http://www.hyperrust.org/Rust/Chat.html

A more detailed description with pictures on how to install an IRC
client and join the chat with a Windows based system can be found here,
it should still work this way even if the newer version of mIRC looks a
little different:
http://www.thesongdog.de/rust/help/mirc.php

And now the easiest "newbie" option:
- go to http://www.efnet.org/
- chose a nickname on the left
- change "#webchat" into "#rusties"
- click the Login button
... and you should be connected with a web based interface :-)

See ya there!

--

Hooooowl!

Johnny TheSongDog Yuma

Way to go Greg.
Sending you some rays of rusty sunshine, as that's what you give to us.
Congratulations !

chris
..all illusion anyway

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "bob ballerstein" <helpless@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Anyone using Vuze for their bit torrent client? I switched from uTorrent because
the latest version kept crashing my system. However, since I switched it seems
like uploading (once I become a seeder) is almost non-existent. My share rating
is suffering greatly even though I've been leaving torrents open for days at a
time. If I get a share ratio of .250 on a torrent, I'm doing well. Even when I
jump on a torrent right when it's posted it doesn't work well. It says it sets
everything up automatically and I can't quite figure out how to change things.
I'm not sure if it's the settings or my ISP (Comcast). If anyone is familiar
with Vuze and knows how I can adjust things, I'd appreciate some help. Off list
replies would be quite welcome.

Thanks,
Matt

Congratulations Greg on being selected the King of Rust for the month of May!
Enjoy the ride!

Tim
Makes you think about livin'




--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "bob ballerstein" <helpless@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Growing up is for later...rust is for now. :-)

Nick

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "punkdavid40" <punkdavid40@...> wrote:
>
> A "Rustie" is what I hope to be when I grow up.
>
> --PunkDavid
>
>
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@> wrote:
> >
> > What are the character traits that are common to Rusties?
> >
> > Are we at all like Neil?
> >
> > Does he see us the same way?  ;-)
> >
> > Just wonderin'....
> >
> > Nick
> >
>

Congrats, Greg! Enjoy your reign as May ROTM. A well deserved honour and long
overdue.

Sharry (Up in T.O. keepin' jive alive)


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"Some sense of religion...in the broadest sense?

Um Nick ! I had to think about that. I'm not religious. I think it's the cause
of all,world unrest more so than oil or money.

But then again my sister and brother in law are christian missionaries. I admire
their work. But I read Rust and listen to Neil more than they read the bible and
go to church!

So I guess in the very broadest sense perhaps but I think it's addiction.

Gary

NP: CSNY 2006 Freedom of Speech Tour Tahoe - great show, all in fine voice and
groove

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@...> wrote:
>
> The single minded aspects seem to have caused Neil's friends a few problems...
>
> I guess Neil thinks it pays to be strong.
>
> He was bullied and had a tough time in his younger days...so it is maybe his
coping strategy (?)
>
> Another rust trait....love hate relationship with politics?
>
> And concern for Mother Earth.
>
> Some sense of religion...in the broadest sense?
>
> Nick
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Old Man Emu or for Rust: And I fell into a
dream" <garycarter2118@> wrote:
> >
> > Good question Nick.
> >
> > Rebellious, independent, fun loving - tick
> >
> > I despise rules and regulation but then I like to see how thinks work and
unwork and I like to break things - not people but processes. I was an IT
Auditor for the first 15 years of my professional life !
> >
> > I'm not like Neil in the single minded sense, he can change course on a dime
and follow the muse. A lot of what I do is to help other people - try to make
the loser win. But, I really need something to hang onto and to return to as a
safety base - calling me to bring my guitar home.
> >
> > I find I can hang onto him, because of his singer songwriter quality, depth
and variation but mostly I think it is the lyrical mystery, I can listen to an
album or track over and over and try to work out his meaning and my
interpretation. Broken Arrow for example as you asked the other day ! Buffalo
Springfield, 6 lines to describe the words Peace Offering, JFK ? I don't know.
> >
> > I'd just like to understand this mysterious person called Shakey. But then I
don't want to understand then fun is the continual exploration.
> >
> > Sometimes though I wish he were a she. But then that may be worse ! Yikes.
> >
> > Gary
> > and I fell into a dream
> >
> > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting. I imagine many Rusties are rebellious, independent, fun
loving, like having a network of friends...and of course love Neil's music.
> > >
> > > Well, most of it.
> > >
> > > And we like to chew the fat.....  ;-)
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "julesalexgray" <julesalexgray@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What are the character traits that are common to Rusties?
> > > >
> > > > We're a pretty disparate bunch.
> > > >
> > > > > Are we at all like Neil?
> > > >
> > > > Well he's quite disparte too!  ;-)
> > > >
> > > > > Does he see us the same way?  ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Artist/fan relationships are never a level playing field.  He probably
sees us as his bread and butter, but perhaps as being over-zealous and therefore
he needs to keep us at arms-length for the sake of his sanity and safety.  You
know, just in case we might be a bit...unhinged!  I'm sure most of us are an
amourphous mass to him really.
> > > >
> > > > Decade
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Perhaps spirituality in some sense? Instead of 'religion'- which connotates some
sort of fixed belief, I think-

And addiction, either with or without the 'religion' part (I thought maybe you
meant that addiction can be in many forms-drugs, religion, music-) is a
definite- rusties all seem to 'get' the enjoyment/obsession factor in some way--


marilyn, from the blackberry

-----Original Message-----
From: "Old Man Emu or for Rust: And I fell into a dream"
<garycarter2118@...>
Sender: rust@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 22:02:07
To: <rust@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Rust]  Re: What defines a Rustie?

"Some sense of religion...in the broadest sense?

Um Nick ! I had to think about that. I'm not religious. I think it's the cause
of all,world unrest more so than oil or money.

But then again my sister and brother in law are christian missionaries. I admire
their work. But I read Rust and listen to Neil more than they read the bible and
go to church!

So I guess in the very broadest sense perhaps but I think it's addiction.

Gary

NP: CSNY 2006 Freedom of Speech Tour Tahoe - great show, all in fine voice and
groove

--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@...> wrote:
>
> The single minded aspects seem to have caused Neil's friends a few problems...
>
> I guess Neil thinks it pays to be strong.
>
> He was bullied and had a tough time in his younger days...so it is maybe his
coping strategy (?)
>
> Another rust trait....love hate relationship with politics?
>
> And concern for Mother Earth.
>
> Some sense of religion...in the broadest sense?
>
> Nick
>
> --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "Old Man Emu or for Rust: And I fell into a
dream" <garycarter2118@> wrote:
> >
> > Good question Nick.
> >
> > Rebellious, independent, fun loving - tick
> >
> > I despise rules and regulation but then I like to see how thinks work and
unwork and I like to break things - not people but processes. I was an IT
Auditor for the first 15 years of my professional life !
> >
> > I'm not like Neil in the single minded sense, he can change course on a dime
and follow the muse. A lot of what I do is to help other people - try to make
the loser win. But, I really need something to hang onto and to return to as a
safety base - calling me to bring my guitar home.
> >
> > I find I can hang onto him, because of his singer songwriter quality, depth
and variation but mostly I think it is the lyrical mystery, I can listen to an
album or track over and over and try to work out his meaning and my
interpretation. Broken Arrow for example as you asked the other day ! Buffalo
Springfield, 6 lines to describe the words Peace Offering, JFK ? I don't know.
> >
> > I'd just like to understand this mysterious person called Shakey. But then I
don't want to understand then fun is the continual exploration.
> >
> > Sometimes though I wish he were a she. But then that may be worse ! Yikes.
> >
> > Gary
> > and I fell into a dream
> >
> > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Interesting. I imagine many Rusties are rebellious, independent, fun
loving, like having a network of friends...and of course love Neil's music.
> > >
> > > Well, most of it.
> > >
> > > And we like to chew the fat.....  ;-)
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "julesalexgray" <julesalexgray@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "dialacrocdundee" <nickbirch06@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What are the character traits that are common to Rusties?
> > > >
> > > > We're a pretty disparate bunch.
> > > >
> > > > > Are we at all like Neil?
> > > >
> > > > Well he's quite disparte too!  ;-)
> > > >
> > > > > Does he see us the same way?  ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Artist/fan relationships are never a level playing field.  He probably
sees us as his bread and butter, but perhaps as being over-zealous and therefore
he needs to keep us at arms-length for the sake of his sanity and safety.  You
know, just in case we might be a bit...unhinged!  I'm sure most of us are an
amourphous mass to him really.
> > > >
> > > > Decade
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





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--- In rust@yahoogroups.com, "bob ballerstein" <helpless@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations to Greg McGarvey on his selection as May 2011 Rustie of the
Month!!!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Congratulations. Photograph that ! :-)

(for non facebookers Greg is a prolific and surreal photographer and daily
shares his clicks with us).

Gary
ROTM April 2009 (I think)

http://picasaweb.google.com/robertsampimon/ROTM#