Hello,



This is my first post - please accept my apologies if this is not new or useful

information.



I have a version of the "Barging into the presence of god" demo tape that is

slightly different to the one pictured on the palesaints.co.uk website:



  - it only has 3 tracks: The Sight Of You, She Rides The Waves, Colours and

Shapes. The track listing is on bits of paper stuck on the inlay so I guess they

were initially printed with the original track listing then had the new list

stuck on.

  - it has a different cover, black background with the image taking up about

half the front.



It was sent to my Uncle's recording studio/record label - they didn't end up

working with him and he passed the tape on to me as he thought I would like it. 

I have put some photos on

http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/d_n_clegg/pale_saints/

happy for them to be downloaded and put up on palesaints.co.uk if they are of

sufficient interest.  I can supply higher res versions (and one without the

address/phone number blurred out) if required.

Sorry again if this is old news - if it is of interest I could convert them to

MP3 if people wanted to see if the 3 versions on here were different from the

version on the other demo tape (although the date of recording is the same so

they are probably the same versions)



Cheers,



David.

Hi David,



thanks for this, I find it interesting.



As for mp3 copies, I'd surely love to hear it. So if it's not too much

extra work, that would be cool.



Just curious:



What was your uncle's studio/label...?



Bye,

Stefan

~~~





davidneilclegg wrote on Friday, April 24, 2009:

> Hello,



> This is my first post - please accept my apologies if this is not new or

useful information.



> I have a version of the "Barging into the presence of god" demo

> tape that is slightly different to the one pictured on the

> palesaints.co.uk website:



>  - it only has 3 tracks: The Sight Of You, She Rides The Waves,

> Colours and Shapes. The track listing is on bits of paper stuck on

> the inlay so I guess they were initially printed with the original

> track listing then had the new list stuck on.

>  - it has a different cover, black background with the image taking up about

half the front.



> It was sent to my Uncle's recording studio/record label - they

> didn't end up working with him and he passed the tape on to me as he

> thought I would like it.  I have put some photos on

> http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w7/d_n_clegg/pale_saints/

> happy for them to be downloaded and put up on palesaints.co.uk if

> they are of sufficient interest.  I can supply higher res versions

> (and one without the address/phone number blurred out) if required.

> Sorry again if this is old news - if it is of interest I could

> convert them to MP3 if people wanted to see if the 3 versions on

> here were different from the version on the other demo tape

> (although the date of recording is the same so they are probably the

> same versions)



> Cheers,



> David.







> ------------------------------------



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Stefan,



I have put the MP3s in the Files section of the group's page.

Probably not great sound quality as I had to drop the bitrate down to

get the filesize below yahoo's limit (and also because the only

working cassette player I had isn't that great...)



Anyay, hope they are of interest.



David.

Hi David,



great, thanks a lot. And really interesting.



Track #2 (She Rides The Waves) is just silent noise, though...





The basic sound of Sight Of You is pretty similar to what ended up on

the official Barging... EP later.



I think I remember reading somewhere (on the EP cover?) that they took

the demo and reworked it somewhat, does anyone remember?



Too lazy to go downstairs and fetch the record cover now...  ;-)



Bye,

Stefan

~~~





David Clegg wrote on Thursday, April 30, 2009:

> Stefan,



> I have put the MP3s in the Files section of the group's page.

> Probably not great sound quality as I had to drop the bitrate down to

> get the filesize below yahoo's limit (and also because the only

> working cassette player I had isn't that great...)



> Anyay, hope they are of interest.



> David.

2009/5/6  <stefan@...>:



> Track #2 (She Rides The Waves) is just silent noise, though...



Ah, sorry about that - first time using audacity - the source project

file also appears blank, sorry about that, not sure what I did!  Glad

the others are OK though.  Sorry I've recently got rid of all my vinyl

so can't check the record covers.



David.

David Clegg wrote on Wednesday, May 6, 2009:



> Ah, sorry about that - first time using audacity - the source project

> file also appears blank, sorry about that, not sure what I did!  Glad

> the others are OK though.  Sorry I've recently got rid of all my vinyl

> so can't check the record covers.



I just did, the cover says:



"SIGHT OF YOU and SHE RIDES THE WAVES originally produced and recorded

at Woodhouse Studios, Leeds, by Richard Formby and Mike Stout, Nov-Dec

1988"



So the studio and date match (though not the engineer's name...), and

so I guess this demo (or at least some backing tracks of it) could be

the base of the EP version.



Would have to do a direct A/B comparison to be sure, but have to get

my daughter to bed now.  ;-)



Bye,

Stefan

~~~

jo wrote on Wednesday, May 6, 2009:



> this is from memory, but I'm almost certain it was the same

> recordings, just remixed a bit.



Yeah, though I think Gil Norton also added some overdubs at Blackwing

in London. And maybe the vocals were worked on there, too.



But the demo definitely has the same "feel".



Boy, what a great EP that was. I still remember how I first heard it

on a late night Northern Germany radio program (Alan Bangs was the

host and usually played cool new stuff from England).



Those were the days...



Bye,

Stefan

~~~







> 2009/5/6 <stefan@...>



> I just did, the cover says:



> "SIGHT OF YOU and SHE RIDES THE WAVES originally produced and recorded

> at Woodhouse Studios, Leeds, by Richard Formby and Mike Stout, Nov-Dec

> 1988"



> So the studio and date match (though not the engineer's name...), and

> so I guess this demo (or at least some backing tracks of it) could be

> the base of the EP version.



> Would have to do a direct A/B comparison to be sure, but have to get

> my daughter to bed now.  ;-)



> Bye,

> Stefan