S.J.Dibai wrote:
> Oh, absolutely. (The Three Degrees') Swan recordings included
> some of the best early examples of the Philly sound. The
> Richard Barrett productions of the mid-60s are a fascinating
> lost chapter in the development of Philly soul ,,,

How is it that a New York producer (and one of the architects of
the girl group sound) winds up one of the architects of the
Philly sound? I realize Philadelphia is not especially far from
New York, but the two scenes seem to have been largely
independent of one another. I'm sure there are many examples of
operational cross-over between them, but I hadn't realized that
Barrett had been among the commuters.

Dig,
--Phil M.

FYI, I met Sandy Linzer briefly at a voice-over job just
before Christmas. He is working on music projects with one
of my clients here in New Jersey. I didn't have time to
talk or ask any questions, but at least I got the chance
to say hello.

I'm afraid it's more than I've done much of here this year.
New Year's resolution: become more active again on
Spectropop. With that resolved, let me wish all of you
worldwide a happy and healthy 2006; let's keep those great
sounds out there for everyone to discover!

Best to all,
Country Paul

Paul:
> You would be surprised to find how many people hear the
> songs on radio every year and have no idea they all come
> from one album.

And I suspect some people who weren't around at the time may
be familiar with the arrangements through later recordings
that borrow from Phil's Christmas Album.  My suspicion was
aroused a couple of years ago when I heard a soundalike by a
well-known artist being muzacked through my supermarket.

I am so not full of information this morning: I can't recall
which track or which well-known artist, but you may know some
examples.

Happy '06 chums,

Lyn

Richard Snow wrote:
> I recently heard The Ventures version of "I feel fine", The
> Beatles tune. What shocked me was that The Ventures edited
> the Beatles original 45 onto the front of their track.

The Ventures version is on thier classic "The Ventures Knock
Me Out!" album. After listening to it on CD they might have
done just that. It sounds suspiciously close but its been
slightly edited.

But the Ventures were/are masters at copying other guitarists
sounds, and they might have gotten the same sound while in the
studio. I saw a Beatles tribute act play "I Feel Fine" once,
and all the guy did to get that same sound was stick his
Rickenbacker right up to a Vox amp!

Billy G.
60's Jangle Radio @ Live365.com
http://listen.to/jangleradio

Phil M said:
> http://www.gemm.com is almost always your best first stop
> for rare record buying.

I incline to agree, for the reasons Phil stated although, in
my experience, the really seriously obscure rarities are
slightly more likely to come up on eBay simply because the
price is so hard to set. I too have not been "had" by any of
the GEMM traders to whom they link, although I have chanced
some of their low-rated clients. These tend not to have the
records they advertise - and leave you waiting for a month
before telling you!

My main reason for writing though is to recommend Netsounds,
the British equivalent of GEMM. This works in a similar way
to GEMM, with many of the same items and traders, but it's
worth checking as there are many different ones too. The
traders are based all of the world and trade internationally.
You'll find it at: http://www.netsoundsmusic.com/

Happy hunting!

Ian Slater

Ian Slater wrote:
> My main reason for writing though is to recommend Netsounds,
> the British equivalent of GEMM. This works in a similar way
> to GEMM, with many of the same items and traders, but it's
> worth checking as there are many different ones too. The
> traders are based all of the world and trade internationally.
> You'll find it at: http://www.netsoundsmusic.com/

Another alternative, with seemingly ties to Gemm as it appears
the same sellers and items are offered for sale, is
www.musicstack.com. It seems Gemm doesn't use PayPal as an
option for payment, which is personally convenient for me.
First preference is Ebay (out of habit), and then Musicstack
to see if I can find a reliable seller for a lesser price.
Musicstack has been winning out recently on a couple of items,
but not all.

Happy 2006!
Fred Clemens

Richard Snow wrote:
> I recently heard The Ventures version of "Apache" and also
> on the same Cd an instrumental version of "I feel fine",
> The Beatles tune. What shocked me was that The Ventures
> made no effort to reproduce the feedback sound on the intro.
> What they have done instead is blatantly edited the Beatles
> original 45 onto the front of their track.

Not convinced they did copy it Richard, take a listen to their
Out A Space album they were producing those sort of sounds
before The Beatles did by accident.

Steve Harvey:
> What CD has their "I Feel Fine". I have a live in Japan CD
> with it, but no intro like that.

"I Feel Fine" is on a Cd called "Walk Don't Run, the best
of the Ventures". Here it is on Amazon:

http://tinyurl.com/dlcwl

Richard
www.richardsnow.co.uk

Hey Hey S'poppers....

I am so wishing you the Happiest of New Years....with many
many happy ones to come...

Thanks for your loving vibes during this year....THEY WORKED!!!

We are truly blessed to have the music in our lives. It
reminds me of a great line I read in an interview with the
artist Matisse. The interviewer asks: "Do you believe in God?"
And Matisse answers "Only when I paint."  Yeah baby. For me,
the same holds when I play the music....a place where there
are no boundries to the love....and the healing....So...God
bless you All....and keep PLAYING THE MUSIC.

Light and Love
Claire Francis
January 1, 2006

Sadly, Steve Tudanger passed away this morning. Steve was a
member of The Four Evers, in the sixties who had a hit with
"Be My Girl" on Smash Records. He later was in the group
Playhouse, and sang backup on records for artists like Lobo,
Robin McNamarra, Andy Kim & The Archies. He had two singles
as a solo artist, one on Mercury & one on Big Tree.

Throughout the eighties he was a successful jingle singer,
and along with Steve Feldman, & Ellie Greenwich co-produced
the Ellie Greenwich album "Let It Be Written, Let It Be Sung".
He wrote and produced a great record with Ellie Greenwich
which was never released. It was recorded in the 80's, but
had the feel of the 60's girl groups, called "The First Time".
If I can post it on Musica I will.

Most importantly, Steve was a great guy, and even when his
health started failing, he always had a great attitude and
kept his sence of humor. He will be missed.

- Steve Dworkin

Clark Besch wrote:
> Shel (Silverstein) has no doubt been celebrating his new
> greatest hits Cd on Sony....

That would be nice, but sadly Shel has been dead since 1999.
His website www.shelsilverstein.com has a few mentions of
his music but more about his wonderful stories and poems for
children.  I suppose that he's far better known for his kids'
stuff and he's not often heard as the talented and
entertaining singer / songwriter that he was.  Mind you,
there are a few of his songs that it wouldn't be advisable
for too many kids to hear ("Stacy Brown got two what, dad??").

Norm D.

Roy Clough wrote:
> Not convinced they did copy it Richard, take a listen to
> their Out A Space album they were producing those sort of
> sounds before The Beatles did by accident.

I suspect the feedback edit may have been the record company
and not the Ventures. You might remember that they had a
live album in the 60s that mentioned part of the album was
recorded in England even though they had never played there!

Steve Harvey

Phil X Milstein wrote:
> How is it that a New York producer (and one of the architects
> of the girl group sound) winds up one of the architects of
> the Philly sound? I realize Philadelphia is not especially
> far from New York, but the two scenes seem to have been
> largely independent of one another.

I don't see it that way, actually. The way I see it, it has
long been hard to draw a line between the Philly scene and
the New York scene. Think about it.....Cameo-Parkway and
Jamie/Guyden had their own studios, yet often went to Bell
Sound to record; Madara and White were based in Philly but
recorded in New York often; Leon Huff bounced back and forth
between the two cities as a sessionman; Artie Wayne mentioned
here how he always came down to Philly from NY to keep his
finger on the pulse of new developments or to try to sell
masters. The two cities were very closely linked, though I
doubt most Philadelphians or New Yawkers would admit that
willingly.

But none of that answers your first question. Fact is,
Richard Barrett is FROM Philadelphia. I don't know exactly
why he came back home, but I would guess it has to do with
the decline of the doo-wop he was so well known for and the
almost concurrent rise of Philly soul.

Roll on,
S.J. Dibai

"The Leiber and Stoller Story" - Does anyone know when
volumes 2 and 3 of this series will be released?

Damian

Another great record store is biting the proverbial dust.
Aron's Records here in LA is calling it quits.

According to the Associated Press:

...CD sales in the United States fell about 7 percent in
2005 as the purchase of online singles doubled over last
year. It's a mixed bag for the industry but little good
news for brick-and-mortar music retailers like Aron's,
which is going out of business after 40 years due to
downloads, file-sharing and the opening of a major
competitor nearby. "More and more we're seeing customers
switch to downloads or burning CDs from their friends,"
said Jesse Kemper, owner of Aron's. "The last couple of
years we've been hanging on by our teeth."

I assume the "major competitor" they're talking about is
Amoeba Records on Sunset Blvd, which is about the size of
twenty record stores put together. It's a great place to
find music, but shopping in Amoeba is like shopping in a
big, cold barn. Browsing through records and CDs at Aron's
was a much more personal experience...especially at their
old, smaller location on Melrose.

Aron's is having a sale right now until "everything in the
store is gone"

Aron's Records
1150 N. Highland Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90038
http://www.aronsrecords.com/

Kurt Benbenek
Long Beach, CA

Fred Clemens wrote:
> Another alternative, with seemingly ties to Gemm as
> it appears the same sellers and items are offered
> for sale, is www.musicstack.com.

Every time I've tried to buy something @ Music Stack,
it's already been sold.  Not that this doesn't happen
@ GEMM as well, but ... reminds me, on GEMM, once
you've located an item, cehck to see if the seller has
an off-GEMM webiste or somesuch, 'cos often you can
bypass the up to 15% fee GEMM collects from sellers,
which is more often than not passed on to you (though
some sellers do simply absorb it themselves, figuring,
I suppose, well, at least they're making a sale).  But
I've had some notable successes simply Googling an
artist and/or title and seeing if someone's sales list
or shop listing comes up.  There are people out there
listing neither on GEMM nor Music Stack, and bypassing
eBay, even.  It also doesn't hurt to be on special
interest lists like this one, because, trust me, esp.
if you ask about something, sellers will find you.  I
even partook recently in an old fashioned send-out-a-
list-and-take-bids-'til-the-last-moment auction,
albeit via e- mail rather than "snail" mail. Was
there anything you were looking for specifically? Not
that I ever sell anything, but ...

Damian:
> "The Leiber & Stoller Story" - Does anyone know when
> volumes 2 and 3 of this series will be released?

These things take time, unfortunately. Volume 2, which will
cover the years 1957 to 1962, should be out on Ace in a few
months, with Vol 3 (1963 - 1969) to follow at a later date.
In the meantime, check out the first volume here:

http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=59&release=421

Talking of Leiber & Stoller, does anyone out there have a
copy of their composition "The Gunfighter", as recorded by
Tommy Roe on ABC Paramount 10696 in 1965? If so, I'd love
to hear it, somehow. Is it out on CD, by any chance (even
a boot)? The song is under consideration for Vol 3, you see.

Hey la,

Mick Patrick

Kurt...thanks for the info about Arons' going out of
business. I probably had more "Shadow Mann" vinyl lps
sold out of his store than any other store in the
country, even though they were discounted for 99 cents.

When I had to sell my incredible lp collection, he
gave me a fair price, when he could've easily taken
advantage. I'm sure he's got some hidden treasures
there that's worth looking into.

Aron's Records
1150 N. Highland Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90038
http://www.aronsrecords.com/

regards, Artie Wayne  http://artiewayne.com

Damian wrote:
> "The Leiber and Stoller Story" - Does anyone know when
> volumes 2 and 3 of this series will be released?

Sorry if I missed the earlier posting on this.....but
what is on Volume 1?  I haven't even got that one yet.

Norm D.

Steve D:
> Sadly, Steve Tudanger passed away this morning

I am so sad about Steve Tudanger. Over the past few years
we had been in touch, via phone and mail (No computer--his
eyesight wasn't up to it).  He had two strokes, and heart
problems, but no matter how bad his health became, his
attitude was always positive.  His father and mother both
died when he was quite young and his doctor said it was a
miracle he lived as long as he did.

I had planned to see him the next time I came up to NY....
I waited too long.

A great talent and a fine person, Steve also wrote, "Let
Me Be Forever", which was a solid hit in South America for
Steve Feldman as an artist -- I believe it went to number
one in a couple of countries.

Those of you who remember the Coke Jingles which were a
topic here a while back will likely remember that Stevie
was responsible for the best of that bunch, the latin
flavored, "How Much Nicer It Would Be Together".

Additionally, he also had a meaningful career as a background
and jingle singer in NYC prior to his first, incapacitating
stroke.

His demo of his composition "Mary" is at musica.  The
background voice that is off pitch is me not him.
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/

Mike Rashkow

Damian wrote:
> "The Leiber and Stoller Story" - Does anyone know when
> volumes 2 and 3 of this series will be released?

Norm D:
> Sorry if I missed the earlier posting on this.....but
> what is on Volume 1?  I haven't even got that one yet.

OK, pick the bones out of this lot:

THE LEIBER & STOLLER STORY
VOL 1: HARD TIMES (The Los Angeles Years 1951-56)
Ace CDCHD 1010

1  That’s What The Good Book Says - Bobby Nunn & the Robbins
    (Modern 807, alternate version)
2  Hard Times - Charles Brown (Aladdin 3116)
3  Nosey Joe - Bullmoose Jackson (King 4524)
4  Flying Home - Amos Milburn (Aladdin 3125)
5  Gloom And Misery All Around - Roy Hawkins
    (Modern 842, alernate version)
6  Bam Balam - The Du Droppers (Groove recording)
7  Real Ugly Woman - Jimmy Witherspoon (Modern 821)
8  Mainliner - Little Esther (Federal 12100)
9  Kansas City (aka K. C. Lovin’) - Little Willie Littlefield
    (Federal 12110)
10 Lovin’ Jim - Little Mickey Champion (Modern 855)
11 Too Bad Sweet Mama - Sam “Highpockets” Henderson
    Vocal: Jerry Leiber (Groove 0021)
12 Ten Days In Jail - The Robins (RCA 47-5489)
13 Squeeze Me - Milt Trenier (RCA 47-5275)
14 I Smell A Rat - Big Mama Thornton (Peacock 1632)
15 Yeah, Yeah, Yeah - Joe Liggins (Mercury 70440)
16 Come A Little Bit Closer - Willy & Ruth (Spark 101)
17 It’s A Miracle – The Honey Bears (Spark 104)
18 Bazoom (I Need Your Lovin’) - The Cheers (Capitol 2921)
19 Riot In Cell Block # 9 – Vicki Young (Capitol 2865)
20 Hound Dog - Freddie Bell & the Bell Boys (Teen 101)
21 Whadaya Want - Jack Cardwell (King 1454)
22 Down In Mexico - Ella Mae Morse (Capitol 3387)
23 Hot Dog - Young Jessie (Modern recording)
24 What About Me - Larry Evans (Fabor 4009)
25 Tears Of Joy - Etta James (Modern 988)
26 Ruby Baby - The Drifters (Atlantic 1089)
27 If It’s The Last Thing I Do - Frankie Marshall (Atco 6061)
28 L’Homme A La Moto - Edith Piaf (Capitol 3368)

Find more info at these links:
http://tinyurl.com/bfjg6
http://tinyurl.com/cke7e
http://tinyurl.com/8flnw

Hey la,

Mick Patrick

Norm D:
> ... sadly Shel has been dead since 1999. His website
> www.shelsilverstein.com has a few mentions of his music but
> more about his wonderful stories and poems for children.

My apologies. I did not know Shel had died. Just by
coincidence, I happened to recite "Sarah Sylvia..." to my mom
this past weekend just in joking around about garbage.
Couldn't resist it!

Clark

It's definitely lifted from the original USA record (you know the echoey
version). It doesn't just sound similar, it's Identical.

The Ventures version is in clean stereo. The edit from the lifted Mono intro
to their version sticks out a mile.
I've played them together at the same time and they phase. ( I know I'm sad
! :-)    )


Richard
www.richardsnow.co.uk



>
>Not convinced they did copy it Richard, take a listen to their
>Out A Space album they were producing those sort of sounds
>before The Beatles did by accident.
>
>
>

Damian wrote:
> "The Leiber and Stoller Story" - Does anyone know when
> volumes 2 and 3 of this series will be released?

Me:
> Sorry if I missed the earlier posting on this.....but
> what is on Volume 1? I haven't even got that one yet.

Mick Patrick:
> OK, pick the bones out of this lot:
> THE LEIBER & STOLLER STORY
> VOL 1: HARD TIMES (The Los Angeles Years 1951-56)
> Ace CDCHD 1010
> ...
> 28. L’Homme A La Moto (Black Denim Trousers And Motorcylcle
> Boots) - Edith Piaf (Capitol 3368)
> Find more info at these links:
> http://tinyurl.com/bfjg6
> http://tinyurl.com/cke7e
> http://tinyurl.com/8flnw

This looks - and sounds - wonderful.  What in god's name
does the Edith Piaf version sound like?  Only one way I'm
going to find out....  Now, why didn't I see this info.
before Christmas?

As this great CD is on the Ace label, can I give a shameless
plug to a quiz that I've set, on another music site, that's
offering, as the first three prizes, 5, 4, and 3 single CDs
of your choice from the Ace Records catalogue.  The most
correct answers win.

The link for the quiz is here:
http://www.charliegillett.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1705

You have to register as a site user, but it's all free.  Many
of the questions should be a breeze to S'Poppers, but there
are a few stinkers.  Closing date is this Sat. Jan. 7th.

Bon chance, as Edith might have said.

Norm D.

Reading of Aron's Records reminded me of a store in the Ft.
Lauderdale Area which closed a few years ago, Sir Arthur
Oldies. In the 70s, Artie Appelbaum had a shop on the beach,
then moved west, finally settling in Tamarac. Artie used to
go to New York each summer to vacation and to search for
more old vinyl. Around 2002 he decided to retire, and close
the store. Around that same time Artie died, leaving the
family to liquidate the vast inventory. Last I heard, no
one was willing to buy up the entire lot of records. Sad to
know that his family had no interest in keeping alive
Artie's love for stacks of wax.

Age is a number that tells
how long you have lived in this world,
not how to live in it.

Larry Bromley
good day!

How ya' Doin'? First, I'd like to congratulate Tom Jones
on becoming a Knight! He's a good guy, who never has lost
his edge and certainly desrves any award he gets.

I am curious, however, how the recipients are chosen, and
why did Andrew Lloyd Webber becme a Knight and Tim Rice
didn't? Why did Mick Jagger...and not Keith Richards?

thanks and regards, artie wayne  http://artiewayne.com

Dear members,

Tony Meehan and Danny Williams, both of whom died in
the closing weeks of 2005, are the latest additions
to the all too frequently expanding S'pop Remembers
section.

Tony Meehan:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/TMeehanobit.htm

Danny Williams:
http://www.spectropop.com/remembers/DWobit.htm

R.I.P.

The S'pop Team

Steve will be buried on Wednesday in NY.

I am hoping to put together a little book of remembrances
about him to give to his closest friends and family.

I can copy whatever is in the S'Pop Archives, but if some
of you reading this have a thought or a memory about him
you'd like to offer in that regard, please send it to me
off-list.

Thanks.

Mike Rashkow

Country Paul wrote:
> FYI, I met Sandy Linzer briefly at a voice-over job just
> before Christmas. He is working on music projects with one
> of my clients here in New Jersey. I didn't have time to
> talk or ask any questions, but at least I got the chance
> to say hello.

I have to confess a bit of ignorance here - I always thought
Sandy Linzer was a "she" and that the Sandy Linzer/Denny
Randell team was a guy/gal (or in this case, gal/guy) team
like Goffin/King, Mann/Weil, and Barry/Greenwich! Thanks for
this bit of enlightenment.

On the Ventures' first Christmas album, which came out in the
mid-1960s, most of the holiday songs start out with an intro
that is reminiscent of a hit song of the day that the Ventures
had also recorded. I know that one of the songs starts with an
"I Feel Fine" intro; I think it's "Rudolph the Red Nosed
Reindeer". I just love this album - it's my favorite
instrumental Christmas album, while "A Christmas Gift to You"
is my favorite with "straight" vocals. My favorite parody
vocals Christmas album is "More Twisted Christmas" by Bob
Rivers and Twisted Radio.