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Re: SW thread: Finally decided - ordered from Fretsong

hey your welcome.

Any questions feel free to ask.

Chris Cowan



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From: albert griffith <algrif2004@...>
To: steinberger_world@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 11:18:10 AM
Subject: Re: SW thread: Finally decided - ordered from Fretsong





Thanks James/Chris. I had reahearsal yesterday and tried to focus on those
details. I realized yesterday that I do use the inlays for positioning. I
don´t know how much I rely on them but enough for it to be a concern, I wil keep
some type of inlays, dots, blocks or sharkfins, probably sharkfins since for the
last 20 years I have played mostly Jacksons.

As to the material, I am not too knowledgeable. I believe that the Jackson
inlays are MOP, but I don´t know much else. I have not been able to figure out
what the Synapse inlays/dots are made of, or the practical difference between
abalone and MOP.

On another topic, I have concluded that I never use the tone knob/potentiometer,
so my new baby will not have a tone knob. Mine will go to 11 like Spinal Tap
once said. As to the finish, this is what I chose (candy red), but transparent
like the blue one below:

I want to thank everyone for their support and help so far. I am pretty sure
I´ll be back with some questions. I´ll keep everyone posted on the progress.

awg

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From: JAMES KAMMERER <jlkjlk8@sbcglobal. net>
To: steinberger_ world@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2009 11:30:49 AM
Subject: Re: SW thread: Finally decided - ordered from Fretsong

You can also get the neck with the micro dots on the fingerboard, I also got one
with standard size dots in MOP, but it is hard to see the difference from what
ever the standard material is...abalone might stand out more, but I always liked
the idea of having the dots on the top back, like some classical guitars
(actually some classicals have none whatsoever, those are for real men I guess
just to know where they are on the fingerboard by feel or visually)

--- On Fri, 7/3/09, christopher cowan <chris_cowan@ att.net> wrote:

From: christopher cowan <chris_cowan@ att.net>
Subject: Re: SW thread: Finally decided - ordered from Fretsong
To: steinberger_ world@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 6:07 AM

I chose the walnut with a "oil" finish and I am happy I did.

Seems more durable and more repairable than paint.

Also, it sounds more natural which is a good compliment to graphite.

I went with abalone dots which was a nice accent and wrapped up the natural look
of my instrument well.

This is all more or less person preference and I am sure that whatever Paul does
you will be happy with.

Everyone that has seen my guitar in person has literlay dropped their jaw
followed by a "oh my god"; and the last time I showed someone a few people came
over to look at it that were amazed including a cabinet maker who asked "where
did he get that quality of wood in that size"

I am excited that you went with Paul; you will be so happy!!!!

Chris Cowan

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From: algrif2004 <algrif2004@ yahoo. com>

To: steinberger_ world@yahoogroup s.com

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 10:53:32 AM

Subject: SW thread: Finally decided - ordered from Fretsong

Ok, finally after some weeks of major indecision I made a decision yesterday and
ordered a custom made guitar from Paul at Fretsong. Thanks Jon Bondy and
everyone else here for their patience in answering my questions.

I have a very good idea as to what I want after a few days of back and forth
e-mails with Paul. Here is what is left.

1) Finish. I am still not sure what kind of finish I want and am limited by the
size of an L shaped type guitar. Striped, solid, metallic? Classic SB black or
white? Other than what I think looks good, are there any other consideration
like cracks, durability, maintenance, etc.?

2) Neck. I am pretty much decided on a Moses graphite neck with no inlays and
side dots. I considered fiber optics but decided against it. Some type of
fluorescent or glow in the dark type side dots would be great, is there such a
thing? Is it recommended?

3) Strap hook. There is a bass strap hook available, but it seems big for a
guitar. Is there a guitar strap hook available for a guitar? Or simply go with a
strap button.

Everything else is pretty much covered with Paul.

Thanks again everyone.

awg

--- In steinberger_ world@yahoogroup s.com, christopher cowan <chris_cowan@ ...>
wrote:

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> Holds tight without the bolts in (not strung) natural finish all the way.

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> Paul is an amazing luthier.

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> Chris

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> From: andyyak <andyyak@... >

> To: steinberger_ world@yahoogroup s.com

> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 7:53:56 AM

> Subject: SW thread: Re: Fretsong custom guitar

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> > is it a Moses neck?....no bolts, wow, Moses was a great miracle

> > worker indeed. but parting the Red Sea....child' s play! Paul may be

> > the one to lead us to the promise land!

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> That tight of a fit is more a testament to who made the body than the neck.
Sure hope it's a natural finish. Otherwise you could see cracking and chipping
if the wood doesn't have room to expand/contract.

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> Andy Y.

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I am still debating whether to retrofit a ZT3 with EMG´s or go with a custom made guitar. Fretsong or Bondy. The Fretsong body would be similar to an L...
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Maybe your looking for more input on the custom side but I can tell you I really like the ZT3! I use/play all the GM T-trem/GR type Steinbergers live and have...
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Retrofitting the ZT3 with an 85 at the bridge and an 89 at the neck is probably the safest bet, and have leaned toward that option several times though I have...
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I own a Fretsong custom made headless guitar and consider it better than most of what I have played or owned, it is like the best lute I own, sensitive to the...
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Jon has what looks like an incredible all graphite model but with a hard tail bridge. If I include the PUPs I need and the tremolo, then that guitar becomes...
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Too bad you can't try one out, especially one with the  hard tail...It may not be that much difference normally between the 2, bit perhaps this particular...
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Hi, I own a Fretsong FS-1 that Paul made for me. It is absolutely amazing. Walnut w/oil finish and a Fender style neck from moses w/24 fret and 24.75 scale...
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is it a  Moses neck?....no bolts, wow, Moses was a great miracle worker indeed. but parting the Red Sea....child's play! Paul may be the one to lead us to the...
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James, It is a moses ns-27 which is fender radius and width (not steinberger narrow width) oh.... and stainless frets. The neck does bolt on; what I was trying...
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Holds tight without the bolts in (not strung) natural finish all the way. Paul is an amazing luthier. Chris ________________________________ From: andyyak...
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Ok, finally after some weeks of major indecision I made a decision yesterday and ordered a custom made guitar from Paul at Fretsong. Thanks Jon Bondy and...
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I received a "Sinister Red with Black"  FS-1 as pictured in the Fretsong Photo Gallery and the finish goes a mile deep. A picture doesn't do the dark...
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Is that the one at the very bottom on the right hand side? awg...
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go with a dark gnarly walnut, well oiled, less maintenance and takes a ding without showing up...it is hard as steel, stable, like steel and can be...
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I chose the walnut with a "oil" finish and I am happy I did. Seems more durable and more repairable than paint. Also, it sounds more natural which is a good...
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You can also get the neck with the micro dots on the fingerboard, I also got one with standard size dots in MOP, but it is hard to see the difference from what...
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Thanks James/Chris.  I had reahearsal yesterday and tried to focus on those details.  I realized yesterday that I do use the inlays for positioning.  I...
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hey your welcome. Any questions feel free to ask. Chris Cowan ________________________________ From: albert griffith <algrif2004@...> To:...
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so there will be a "stain" of cherry red over the walnut? But no varnish or other hard finish? That should make it look like a n Asian Mohagony, like Narra...
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Sounds like the guitar you are planning is going to turn out really nice. I just took delivery of a GM from Paul. It looks similar to the red FS1 quilt top he...
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