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They were fantastic at Hampshire Jam 8, the concert should appear on
MusicZeit soon.

Pics & more info...

http://www.emportal.info/viewtopic.php?t=3624

IMHO the sequencing on Flux Echoes is pure Encore heaven. :)




> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >[mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of boyonthestairs
> >Sent: 15 November 2009 20:18
> >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [tadream] Re: Shreeve / Boddy tonight
> >
> >Picking a tangent from there, does anyone here have the Free
> >System Projekt/Pollard/Hashtronaut collaboration (yet)? The
> >first two names spell for a promising collaboration -
> >Pollard's solo albums have been a bit wanting in the
> >sequencer department IMO, and FSP should be a good patch to
> >that - but I have no experience with Hashtronaut.
> >

Lyrics does not refer to this sort of...landscape but
IMO image is much linked to music mood all along
this record. I Read your description carefully, but for
me there`s not much real sense in tnat picture, again
just a combination of colors and textures that matches
perfectly with music...Also, I like very much the pic of
the four men, deaf, dumb & blind and a fourth one...
well, nuts !

For me, my first contact with TD at age 15, still one
of my top favourite, I`m very used to vocals adding
a differetnt climax.. OK Rising Runner may be slightly
weak, the rest is absolutely fantastic. Recently I
re-discovered this same album on vinyl (UK) and must
say audio quality is amazing, compared to (very) poor
sound of the CD.

-Rick


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: boyonthestairs
   To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 1:45 PM
   Subject: [tadream] Cyclone has just blown my mind



   No, not musically. The cover. I always thought it was a map of sorts - lands
of silver, golden seas, two major rivers, a mountain range to the south, clouds
or something all over it. There's even something resembling a compass rose at
the bottom. That's after all the environment where one might see a cyclone,
right? Not that there actually IS one however - just the title (in a Magrittey
"substitute a word for its referent" fashion), right in the middle of the bight
too.

   However, I've just been suggested it's actually two *trees* on a *hilltop* in
*fog*.

   Holy shit. It makes sense! Looking at the two brancing things, they definitly
resemble trees more than rivers; you can even see some cross'd branches in the
middle. The "mountain range" is another hill off in the distance, the "southern
continent" is some rocks, the "clouds" are strands of mist, that circle thing.
well, I have no idea what that would be then, the moon fallen off the sky?

   (And I also have no idea what this theme has to do with the album.)

   But, my belated congratulations, mr. Froese. That's a grand visual deception
of the Dalí sort if I ever saw one. :)

   John Vertical






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Report it to E-bay and they will pull the auction.

Speak of the Tangerine Tree, I'm wandering for some-one can help me repair
my copy (I as a branch from the beginning) but never got around to burning
all discs for my own use.  Then a few weeks back I lost my entire copy due
to a disk failed (bloody Seagate 7200.11 drives)  I've recovered of it from
some DVDs but I don't have the shn's from volume 85 through to the end (TT 8
- 10).

I'm in Ontario Canada.

thankx

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Babak M <romanticbob35@...> wrote:

>
>
> Well I guess now people are allowed to sell TT or TL CDs on ebay!
> Tangerine Tree Vol.4 Washington 1977 (with a fake cover photo) is up for
> sale. The seller's location is allegedly in Uruguay. I hope there's a way to
> stop this!
>
>
>


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> I've always thought a
>
> Mark Shreeve
> Ian Boddy
> Paul Lawler
>
> "supergroup" would give the Franke / Froese / Schmoelling lineup a
> run for its money. :)

Hmmmmm. Make the 3rd wheel Brendan Pollard and then we'll see about kicking
Franke/Froese/Baumann's ass…

Picking a tangent from there, does anyone here have the Free System
Projekt/Pollard/Hashtronaut collaboration (yet)? The first two names spell for a
promising collaboration — Pollard's solo albums have been a bit wanting in the
sequencer department IMO, and FSP should be a good patch to that — but I have no
experience with Hashtronaut.

John Vertical

Well I guess now people are allowed to sell TT or TL CDs on ebay!
Tangerine Tree Vol.4 Washington 1977 (with a fake cover photo) is up for sale.
The seller's location is allegedly in Uruguay. I hope there's a way to stop
this!

I've always thought a

Mark Shreeve
Ian Boddy
Paul Lawler

"supergroup" would give the Franke / Froese / Schmoelling lineup a run for
its money. :)



> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >[mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of redcon
> >Sent: 15 November 2009 19:13
> >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Shreeve / Boddy tonight
> >
> >ARC is a great band with two fantastic performers.
> >
> >But, IMHO there's something missing missing...they might
> >benefit from a third member. Question is, who would work best....?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >boyonthestairs wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>,
> >> "Mike" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ARC is such a good band. Arcturus will kick 70's TD's
> >@ss any day.
> >>
> >> Them's fightin' words.
> >>
> >> John Vertical
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >

I thought it was meant to be a view through a rain spattered window?


boyonthestairs wrote:
>
> No, not musically. The cover. I always thought it was a map of sorts —
> lands of silver, golden seas, two major rivers, a mountain range to
> the south, clouds or something all over it. There's even something
> resembling a compass rose at the bottom. That's after all the
> environment where one might see a cyclone, right? Not that there
> actually IS one however — just the title (in a Magrittey "substitute a
> word for its referent" fashion), right in the middle of the bight too.
>
> However, I've just been suggested it's actually two *trees* on a
> *hilltop* in *fog*.
>
> Holy shit. It makes sense! Looking at the two brancing things, they
> definitly resemble trees more than rivers; you can even see some
> cross'd branches in the middle. The "mountain range" is another hill
> off in the distance, the "southern continent" is some rocks, the
> "clouds" are strands of mist, that circle thing… well, I have no idea
> what that would be then, the moon fallen off the sky?
>
> (And I also have no idea what this theme has to do with the album.)
>
> But, my belated congratulations, mr. Froese. That's a grand visual
> deception of the Dalí sort if I ever saw one. :)
>
> John Vertical
>
>

ARC is a great band with two fantastic performers.

But, IMHO there's something missing missing...they might benefit from a
third member. Question is, who would work best....?




boyonthestairs wrote:
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Mike" wrote:
> >
> > ARC is such a good band. Arcturus will kick 70's TD's @ss any day.
>
> Them's fightin' words…
>
> John Vertical
>
>

Froese dislikes Cyclone IIRC.

I have always liked it, and still do to this day.

The Cyclone tour was not their finest moment though.

However compared to now...

Actually, let's not go there. :)


> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >[mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of boyonthestairs
> >Sent: 15 November 2009 17:06
> >To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [tadream] Re: Cyclone has just blown my mind
> >
> >> But, my belated congratulations, mr. Froese.
> >
> >.no, wait, it's actually one of Monique's. But it has that
> >same Phaedraish haze, so it's easy to get confused.
> >
> >John Vertical
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >-----------------------
> >http://www.tadream.net
> >-----------------------Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >

> But, my belated congratulations, mr. Froese.

…no, wait, it's actually one of Monique's. But it has that same Phaedraish haze,
so it's easy to get confused…

John Vertical

No, not musically. The cover. I always thought it was a map of sorts — lands of
silver, golden seas, two major rivers, a mountain range to the south, clouds or
something all over it. There's even something resembling a compass rose at the
bottom. That's after all the environment where one might see a cyclone, right?
Not that there actually IS one however — just the title (in a Magrittey
"substitute a word for its referent" fashion), right in the middle of the bight
too.

However, I've just been suggested it's actually two *trees* on a *hilltop* in
*fog*.

Holy shit. It makes sense! Looking at the two brancing things, they definitly
resemble trees more than rivers; you can even see some cross'd branches in the
middle. The "mountain range" is another hill off in the distance, the "southern
continent" is some rocks, the "clouds" are strands of mist, that circle thing…
well, I have no idea what that would be then, the moon fallen off the sky?

(And I also have no idea what this theme has to do with the album.)

But, my belated congratulations, mr. Froese. That's a grand visual deception of
the Dalí sort if I ever saw one. :)

John Vertical

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" wrote:
>
> ARC is such a good band. Arcturus will kick 70's TD's @ss any day.

Them's fightin' words…

John Vertical

I believe the concert was recored for release, but I hadn't heard that
about the in studio performance.

I concur with Vic that is was a great show and a great turnout as well.

> [Original Message]
> From: Oscar <hyperborea@...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 11/15/2009 8:23:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight
>
> It was recorded and will have an official release some time in the future.
>
> Oscar
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <prjct2501@...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight
>
>
> > If anyone was able to record this and share it it would be
> > appreciated. I tried to capture it but the program
> > I used failed.
> >          Thanks,
> >                 Robert
> >
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:00 PM, David Dunham wrote:
> >
> >> If you can't make it ( like me) They will be preforming live on WXPN
> >> 88.5 at 2:00 am EST http://xpn.org/listen-live/listen-live Dave
> >>
> >> -
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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It was recorded and will have an official release some time in the future.

Oscar

----- Original Message -----
From: <prjct2501@...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight


> If anyone was able to record this and share it it would be
> appreciated. I tried to capture it but the program
> I used failed.
>          Thanks,
>                 Robert
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:00 PM, David Dunham wrote:
>
>> If you can't make it ( like me) They will be preforming live on WXPN
>> 88.5 at 2:00 am EST http://xpn.org/listen-live/listen-live Dave
>>
>> -
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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>
>
>
>

If anyone was able to record this and share it it would be
appreciated. I tried to capture it but the program
I used failed.
           Thanks,
                  Robert


On Nov 14, 2009, at 4:00 PM, David Dunham wrote:

> If you can't make it ( like me) They will be preforming live on WXPN
> 88.5 at 2:00 am EST http://xpn.org/listen-live/listen-live Dave
>
> -


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I just got back from a FANTASTIC ARC concert with Ian Boddy and Mark
Shreeve. I heard it was the 4th Arc concert ever and the first time in USA.
Mark is just fantastic in playing the sequencers live! What a memorable
experience. The encore after two great sets featured Shreeve's Assassin. It
was announced that this concert was taped and will be released next year.

I picked up "Arcturus" and I also have stock of Redshift Wild 3, so if
anyone needs a CD, contact me off-line.

Also, Arc will play a 1 hour live set starting Sunday morning at 2am (New
York Time) - in about 35 minutes on WXPN Star's End radio.
Go to www.starsend.org and catch the live stream!

It was also great to see a few tadreamers from this list too!

Vic


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mlivsey2002@...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 5:35 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Shreeve / Boddy tonight


> Let us know how it goes, Vic. ARC is such a good band. Arcturus will kick
> 70's TD's @ss any day.
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, "Vicochet" <tangerinedream@...> wrote:
>>
>> I'll be there. I hope to pick up some new releases.
>>
>> Vic
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <michaeljean@...>
>> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:37 AM
>> Subject: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I got no response last week about Steve Jolliffe, but is anyone heading
>> > up
>> > to see ARC tonight in Philly?
>> >
>> > M
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> -----------------------
> http://www.tadream.net
> -----------------------Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Let us know how it goes, Vic. ARC is such a good band. Arcturus will kick 70's
TD's @ss any day.

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, "Vicochet" <tangerinedream@...> wrote:
>
> I'll be there. I hope to pick up some new releases.
>
> Vic
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <michaeljean@...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:37 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight
>
>
> >
> > I got no response last week about Steve Jolliffe, but is anyone heading up
> > to see ARC tonight in Philly?
> >
> > M
>

If you can't make it ( like me) They will be preforming live on WXPN 88.5 at
2:00 am EST     http://xpn.org/listen-live/listen-live      Dave

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Vicochet <tangerinedream@...> wrote:

> From: Vicochet <tangerinedream@...>
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 3:17 PM
> I'll be there. I hope to pick up some
> new releases.
>
> Vic
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <michaeljean@...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:37 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight
>
>
> >
> > I got no response last week about Steve Jolliffe, but
> is anyone heading up
> > to see ARC tonight in Philly?
> >
> > M
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> -----------------------
> http://www.tadream.net
> -----------------------Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>     tadream-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>

I'll be there. I hope to pick up some new releases.

Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: <michaeljean@...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: [tadream] Shreeve / Boddy tonight


>
> I got no response last week about Steve Jolliffe, but is anyone heading up
> to see ARC tonight in Philly?
>
> M

> Just surfing on it
> http://tiny.cc/UCnLu
> *Volume 1 Track 14 by Edgar Froese

"A Dali-Esque Sleep Fuse", more specifically, as I found out here:
http://www.disquesoffice.ch/fr/cd/vart.international/rock/-170369.html

John Vertical

I got no response last week about Steve Jolliffe, but is anyone heading up
to see ARC tonight in Philly?

M

Just surfing on it
http://tiny.cc/UCnLu
*Volume 1 Track 14 by Edgar Froese

Thanks Nike, In the UK (Sky Digital) is a channel called "Performance" not often
to see is an exhibition with synth music , I've seen JMJ and FGTH, Vangelis
doiing an Performance........waveman2.3
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Nicola
   To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 10:18 PM
   Subject: [tadream] Was ist performance



   On youtube

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zPs_0iYR9U

   enjoy
   Nike





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Pity I can`t understand a word of german. What is
he doing with that sinister helmet and those patches
around his body ??

For those who understand the language, check this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38M5_XMTHQ4&NR=1

-Rick

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Nicola
   To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:18 PM
   Subject: [tadream] Was ist performance



   On youtube

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zPs_0iYR9U

   enjoy
   Nike






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On youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zPs_0iYR9U

enjoy
Nike

> I finally pulled out all the stops and wrote a review of _Zeit_.
> In the process, I've developed a whole new level of appreciation of
> the album and its musicians.  Read more here:
> http://hotplate.freshbiscuits.com/?p=93
>
> Compared to this, the other reviews don't see so daunting. J

I quite like the personal touch.

John Vertical

Here's my take on the album from ages back - since I didn't review it in the
same detail per track, you could say I copped out a bit but the idea was to give
the feel of the thing - all comments welcomed as always.

Andy G.

Tangerine Dream - Zeit
From 1972, the sound of space and the first album of synthesizer-based cosmic
music ever issued. Not only that, but further indication of how unique an
artifact this has become, is indicated by the fact that none of the so-called
"Berlin School" imitators out there has ever dared even to go near to recreating
the sounds on this album – probably simply bacuse you couldn't do it!! This
album is unique in its sound, its construction and its time in space. Opening
with the sound of the four cellists droning and drifting into space, the first
synth undercurrents are added several minute later and it isn't until around the
seven minute mark where the cellos die away to leave the synths to take over,
courtesy of Franke & Baumann while Popol Vuh's Florian Fricke provides extra
drifting textures in the background. Further on in the track, ex-member Steve
Schroyder's organ work comes to the fore while Froese, credited to just gliss
guitar and generator on this album, is presumably doing something  somewhere,
although it appears to be Franke, Baumann, Schroyder & Fricke doing the majority
of the work on this first twenty minute track. Without a rhythm, melody, tune or
any semblance of structure in sight, it drifts, flows, floats and soars its way
to the outer regions of space and beyond. The eighteen minute `Nebulous Dawn'
drifts and drones into existence on waves of deep synth bass drifts, shimmering
deep synth layers, dark electronic sound welling up from below, the sound of
blackness as electronic space music shudders, the bass heavy drift eventually
dying away to leave almost industrial sounding space synths to provide the feel
of being in some outer world factory on an out of body experience watching the
whole mind-blowing situation – perfect music for the final sequence of the
""2001- A Space Odyssey" movie. Organ shimmers, generators shudder, almost
wheezing, upper register synth drifts continue as all manner of electronic
cosmic music elements come and go, what would be come the Tangerine Dream
trademark of letting nothing stand in one place for more than a second or two,
now already well in evidence as the whole track moves continuously but without
any rhythm, tune, melody or structure, one mighty organic amorphous mass of
mesmerising electronic music – and at this point, you're only six minutes in to
the eighteen minute whole.
Needless to say, from what's already beeen stated, the rest of the track and,
indeed, the rest of the album, consists of one gigantic analogue heaven of deep,
dense, dark, drifting, multi-layered, multi-textured cosmic space music that
remains unique to this day, remains timeless to this day and is every bit as
extraordinarily enjoyable as it was groundbreaking, thirty four years ago, the
classical music of the future.


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, "James F. Moore" <jimbo@...> wrote:
>
> I finally pulled out all the stops and wrote a review of _Zeit_.  In the
> process, I've developed a whole new level of appreciation of the album and
> its musicians.  Read more here: http://hotplate.freshbiscuits.com/?p=93
>
>
>
> Compared to this, the other reviews don't see so daunting. J
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I finally pulled out all the stops and wrote a review of _Zeit_.  In the
process, I've developed a whole new level of appreciation of the album and
its musicians.  Read more here: http://hotplate.freshbiscuits.com/?p=93



Compared to this, the other reviews don't see so daunting. J



Cheers!



Jim



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Thanks :-)  I've downloaded them.

-----Original Message-----
From: tadream@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
:-) Ricardo Aranda
Sent: 08 November 2009 8:30 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Some T Tree covers missing in my collection



Yes, I Guess there will be no problem :-) Also
for you Bob.:

http://tangerinedream.pertou.dk/#post504
<http://tangerinedream.pertou.dk/#post504>

Thanks to you
-Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Some T Tree covers missing in my collection

Any chance of sharing that upload?

-----Original Message-----
From: tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of
:-) Ricardo Aranda
Sent: 06 November 2009 5:32 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Some T Tree covers missing in my collection

Thank you all so much for replying, even off list. You are very kind.
Thanks to Mr. Pertou, I reached a link on Megaupload with all 92
TTree covers in a 230 MB zip file.

Once I download a winzip fie I will check what`s in this one from
Blackaxis.

Kind regards from Buenos Aires.
-Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: dweller_benthos
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 1:23 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Some T Tree covers missing in my collection

Pretty sure eveything that is "official" is availabel here:

http://www.blackaxis.co.uk/bin/covers/
<http://www.blackaxis.co.uk/bin/covers/>
<http://www.blackaxis.co.uk/bin/covers/
<http://www.blackaxis.co.uk/bin/covers/> >

There were some other sets of covers made, but I don't have that link handy.

D_B

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com> , ":-\)
Ricardo Aranda" <rmaranda@...> wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> I`m Looking for Tangerine Tree artwork # 50 - 52 - 53
> 54 - 55 - 56 - 57 & 59, seems those are unavailable
> on the web now, or could someone send me a link were
> I can download them...Please ?
>
> Many Thanks,
> np: TT 10...aaaahh.
>
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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09
07:38:00

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/06/09
07:38:00

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Se certificó que el correo entrante no contiene virus.
Comprobada por AVG - www.avg.es
Versión: 8.5.425 / Base de datos de virus: 270.14.55/2489 - Fecha de la
versión: 11/08/09 07:37:00

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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.698 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09
07:37:00