I don't have anything to compare it with, but it is pretty
comprehensive, with preparation, participant interviews, etc. There's
also a myspace site (see film77boadrum) with only a 90 second clip or
trailer. The VBS site was represented by someone else online as being
the same documentary product, just in streaming format. The MP3 of this
event is online, but does anyone have 2008 audio recordings?--- In
theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Are those ten segments on VBS.TV directly from the documentary or
> something different altogether?
>
> --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Winterberg
> <jeffwinterberg@> wrote:
> >
> > The real documentary is not on DVD yet. I know the guy who made it.
> There is talk of a DVD release but it is still playing in Japan in a
> bunch of cities so no DVD yet. It gas only played in New York as far
> as the U.S. goes. I saw it and it is pretty great to re-live all of
it.
> >
> > Sent from Vohrstein
> >
>

Are those ten segments on VBS.TV directly from the documentary or
something different altogether?

--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Winterberg
<jeffwinterberg@...> wrote:
>
> The real documentary is not on DVD yet. I know the guy who made it.
There is talk of a DVD release but it is still playing in Japan in a
bunch of cities so no DVD yet. It gas only played in New York as far
as the U.S. goes. I saw it and it is pretty great to re-live all of it.
>
> Sent from Vohrstein
>

The real documentary is not on DVD yet. I know the guy who made it. There is
talk of a DVD release but it is still playing in Japan in a bunch of cities so
no DVD yet. It gas only played in New York as far as the U.S. goes. I saw it and
it is pretty great to re-live all of it.

Sent from Vohrstein

Buy?  BUY?  Buy where?  If this is some of the documentary, I'm not
aware of a DVD yet.  Is there one?

I can confirm that these ten segments are not on the DVD that comes
with the audio and book that recently came out.  I have that.

If there's a DVD of the official documentary tell me where to get it!

--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, alterego100usa <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Or at least segments of it. Try before you buy at
> http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1705722097 All free to see. I think
> there's ten segments, only scanned some of the first.
>

Or at least segments of it. Try before you buy at
http://www.vbs.tv/video.php?id=1705722097 All free to see. I think
there's ten segments, only scanned some of the first.

is the quality of the dvd comparable to live in sunflancisco? not really feeling
that dvd, and i just dl'd the boadrum cd so...should i buy it? i mean i got the
voaltz 12" but that's sort of essential and i listen to it. i don't want to get
some bunk dvd that's a waste of money.(sunflancisco)
help?

--- On Wed, 12/17/08, alterego100usa <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
From: alterego100usa <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [the boredoms] Re: 77 Boa Drum 2cd + dvd + book
To: theboredoms@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 3:49 PM











             I finally located an mp3 of that day from a participant, and a

shorter version from another, but does anyone have recordings from

this year's NYC event (or others from the tour)?--- In

theboredoms@ yahoogroups. com, fastyouth81 <no_reply@.. .> wrote:

>

> here's the link-

> http://natalie. mu/news/show/ id/10865

>

> according to this article, yoshimi is also gonna release a solo

album the same day called

> bor cosmik.

>

>

> --- In theboredoms@ yahoogroups. com, fastyouth81 <no_reply@> wrote:

> >

> > i know it's not the super roots box set that's been speculated.

there's supposed to be 4

> > new tracks.  i'll try to find the link that has this information.

> >

> >

> >

> > --- In theboredoms@ yahoogroups. com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I remember when the documentary was going to run in NYC.  I just

> > > couldn't get down there to see it!  I'm holding out for a DVD.

> > >

> > > Did anybody else notice that Super Roots 10 is listed on CD

Japan with

> > > a release date at the end of January?  Anybody know what it

actually is?

> > >

> > > --- In theboredoms@ yahoogroups. com, "jeffwinterberg"

> > > <jeffwinterberg@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > The documentary is still currently showing in Japan. I saw it

in New

> > > > York back in October where it played twice in one night, that

was it.

> > > > It was really good and the sound is from this recording. The

film's

> > > > creator, Jun Kawaguchi, is hoping to someday have a dvd

release.

> > > > I agree that the sound on this box set really does a great

job at

> > > > approximating how heavy it was to actually be there.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In theboredoms@ yahoogroups. com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Got my copy from CDJapan a few weeks back.  The audio is

MEGA!  The

> > > > > earth shook while I had it on in the car earlier this

week.

> > > > >

> > > > > The DVD is a RIP-OFF!  Very disappointing.  With all the

cameras they

> > > > > had at that event they should have very easily been able to

put

> > > > > together the entire 100 minutes on video.  The cool part

about the

> > > > > video is that I actually found myself in it!  25 minutes of

footage

> > > > > just isn't enough though.

> > > > >

> > > > > Where's the DVD of that documentary?

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In theboredoms@ yahoogroups. com, ripleyjames@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >  From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > album cover

> > > > > >

> > > > > > []

> > > > > >  BOREDOMS

> > > > > > []

> > > > > >  77 Boa Drum

> > > > > > []

> > > > > >  (Commons)

> > > > > > []

> > > > > > 2cd + dvd + Book

> > > > > > []

> > > > > > 125.00

> > > > > > []

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's finally here! An audio / video document of the

amazing 77 Boa

> > > > > > Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th,

2007.

> > > > > > Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd

> > > > > > release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so

this right

> > > > > > here is the only documentof that fantastic and now

legendary

> > > > > > performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77

Boa Drum

> > > > > > contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split

into two

> > > > > > halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the

event, all

> > > > > > housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold

> > > hardcover

> > > > > > book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of

our very

> > > own

> > > > > > Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum

layout, various

> > > > > > text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic,

totally

> > > deluxe

> > > > > > and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the

> > > recordings,

> > > > > > the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more

than just a

> > > > > > spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic

sound,

> > > > > > equally composed and improvised, the power of that many

drummers,

> > > > > > each contributing his or her own style, combined with the

Boredoms

> > > > > > three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked

guitar and

> > > > > > spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want

to think

> > > > > > about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane

ticket woulda

> > > > > > been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost

makes this

> > > > > > even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake

of one

> > > of the

> > > > > > most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part

of, and

> > > the

> > > > > > very first Boa Drum.

> > > > > > Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have

a few of

> > > > > > these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get

more, but

> > > > > > there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want

one, act fast.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>





























[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I finally located an mp3 of that day from a participant, and a
shorter version from another, but does anyone have recordings from
this year's NYC event (or others from the tour)?--- In
theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, fastyouth81 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> here's the link-
> http://natalie.mu/news/show/id/10865
>
> according to this article, yoshimi is also gonna release a solo
album the same day called
> bor cosmik.
>
>
> --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, fastyouth81 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > i know it's not the super roots box set that's been speculated.
there's supposed to be 4
> > new tracks.  i'll try to find the link that has this information.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I remember when the documentary was going to run in NYC.  I just
> > > couldn't get down there to see it!  I'm holding out for a DVD.
> > >
> > > Did anybody else notice that Super Roots 10 is listed on CD
Japan with
> > > a release date at the end of January?  Anybody know what it
actually is?
> > >
> > > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, "jeffwinterberg"
> > > <jeffwinterberg@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The documentary is still currently showing in Japan. I saw it
in New
> > > > York back in October where it played twice in one night, that
was it.
> > > > It was really good and the sound is from this recording. The
film's
> > > > creator, Jun Kawaguchi, is hoping to someday have a dvd
release.
> > > > I agree that the sound on this box set really does a great
job at
> > > > approximating how heavy it was to actually be there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Got my copy from CDJapan a few weeks back.  The audio is
MEGA!  The
> > > > > earth shook while I had it on in the car earlier this
week.
> > > > >
> > > > > The DVD is a RIP-OFF!  Very disappointing.  With all the
cameras they
> > > > > had at that event they should have very easily been able to
put
> > > > > together the entire 100 minutes on video.  The cool part
about the
> > > > > video is that I actually found myself in it!  25 minutes of
footage
> > > > > just isn't enough though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where's the DVD of that documentary?
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, ripleyjames@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > album cover
> > > > > >
> > > > > > []
> > > > > >  BOREDOMS
> > > > > > []
> > > > > >  77 Boa Drum
> > > > > > []
> > > > > >  (Commons)
> > > > > > []
> > > > > > 2cd + dvd + Book
> > > > > > []
> > > > > > 125.00
> > > > > > []
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's finally here! An audio / video document of the
amazing 77 Boa
> > > > > > Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th,
2007.
> > > > > > Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd
> > > > > > release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so
this right
> > > > > > here is the only documentof that fantastic and now
legendary
> > > > > > performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77
Boa Drum
> > > > > > contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split
into two
> > > > > > halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the
event, all
> > > > > > housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold
> > > hardcover
> > > > > > book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of
our very
> > > own
> > > > > > Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum
layout, various
> > > > > > text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic,
totally
> > > deluxe
> > > > > > and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the
> > > recordings,
> > > > > > the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more
than just a
> > > > > > spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic
sound,
> > > > > > equally composed and improvised, the power of that many
drummers,
> > > > > > each contributing his or her own style, combined with the
Boredoms
> > > > > > three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked
guitar and
> > > > > > spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want
to think
> > > > > > about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane
ticket woulda
> > > > > > been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost
makes this
> > > > > > even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake
of one
> > > of the
> > > > > > most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part
of, and
> > > the
> > > > > > very first Boa Drum.
> > > > > > Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have
a few of
> > > > > > these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get
more, but
> > > > > > there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want
one, act fast.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

here's the link-
http://natalie.mu/news/show/id/10865

according to this article, yoshimi is also gonna release a solo album the same
day called
bor cosmik.


--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, fastyouth81 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> i know it's not the super roots box set that's been speculated.  there's
supposed to be 4
> new tracks.  i'll try to find the link that has this information.
>
>
>
> --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > I remember when the documentary was going to run in NYC.  I just
> > couldn't get down there to see it!  I'm holding out for a DVD.
> >
> > Did anybody else notice that Super Roots 10 is listed on CD Japan with
> > a release date at the end of January?  Anybody know what it actually is?
> >
> > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, "jeffwinterberg"
> > <jeffwinterberg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The documentary is still currently showing in Japan. I saw it in New
> > > York back in October where it played twice in one night, that was it.
> > > It was really good and the sound is from this recording. The film's
> > > creator, Jun Kawaguchi, is hoping to someday have a dvd release.
> > > I agree that the sound on this box set really does a great job at
> > > approximating how heavy it was to actually be there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Got my copy from CDJapan a few weeks back.  The audio is MEGA!  The
> > > > earth shook while I had it on in the car earlier this week.
> > > >
> > > > The DVD is a RIP-OFF!  Very disappointing.  With all the cameras they
> > > > had at that event they should have very easily been able to put
> > > > together the entire 100 minutes on video.  The cool part about the
> > > > video is that I actually found myself in it!  25 minutes of footage
> > > > just isn't enough though.
> > > >
> > > > Where's the DVD of that documentary?
> > > >
> > > > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, ripleyjames@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:
> > > > >
> > > > > album cover
> > > > >
> > > > > []
> > > > >  BOREDOMS
> > > > > []
> > > > >  77 Boa Drum
> > > > > []
> > > > >  (Commons)
> > > > > []
> > > > > 2cd + dvd + Book
> > > > > []
> > > > > 125.00
> > > > > []
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It's finally here! An audio / video document of the amazing 77 Boa
> > > > > Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th, 2007.
> > > > > Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd
> > > > > release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so this right
> > > > > here is the only documentof that fantastic and now legendary
> > > > > performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77 Boa Drum
> > > > > contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split into two
> > > > > halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the event, all
> > > > > housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold
> > hardcover
> > > > > book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of our very
> > own
> > > > > Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum layout, various
> > > > > text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic, totally
> > deluxe
> > > > > and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the
> > recordings,
> > > > > the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more than just a
> > > > > spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic sound,
> > > > > equally composed and improvised, the power of that many drummers,
> > > > > each contributing his or her own style, combined with the Boredoms
> > > > > three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked guitar and
> > > > > spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want to think
> > > > > about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane ticket woulda
> > > > > been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost makes this
> > > > > even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake of one
> > of the
> > > > > most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part of, and
> > the
> > > > > very first Boa Drum.
> > > > > Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have a few of
> > > > > these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get more, but
> > > > > there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want one, act fast.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

i know it's not the super roots box set that's been speculated.  there's
supposed to be 4
new tracks.  i'll try to find the link that has this information.



--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I remember when the documentary was going to run in NYC.  I just
> couldn't get down there to see it!  I'm holding out for a DVD.
>
> Did anybody else notice that Super Roots 10 is listed on CD Japan with
> a release date at the end of January?  Anybody know what it actually is?
>
> --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, "jeffwinterberg"
> <jeffwinterberg@> wrote:
> >
> > The documentary is still currently showing in Japan. I saw it in New
> > York back in October where it played twice in one night, that was it.
> > It was really good and the sound is from this recording. The film's
> > creator, Jun Kawaguchi, is hoping to someday have a dvd release.
> > I agree that the sound on this box set really does a great job at
> > approximating how heavy it was to actually be there.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Got my copy from CDJapan a few weeks back.  The audio is MEGA!  The
> > > earth shook while I had it on in the car earlier this week.
> > >
> > > The DVD is a RIP-OFF!  Very disappointing.  With all the cameras they
> > > had at that event they should have very easily been able to put
> > > together the entire 100 minutes on video.  The cool part about the
> > > video is that I actually found myself in it!  25 minutes of footage
> > > just isn't enough though.
> > >
> > > Where's the DVD of that documentary?
> > >
> > > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, ripleyjames@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:
> > > >
> > > > album cover
> > > >
> > > > []
> > > >  BOREDOMS
> > > > []
> > > >  77 Boa Drum
> > > > []
> > > >  (Commons)
> > > > []
> > > > 2cd + dvd + Book
> > > > []
> > > > 125.00
> > > > []
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's finally here! An audio / video document of the amazing 77 Boa
> > > > Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th, 2007.
> > > > Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd
> > > > release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so this right
> > > > here is the only documentof that fantastic and now legendary
> > > > performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77 Boa Drum
> > > > contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split into two
> > > > halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the event, all
> > > > housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold
> hardcover
> > > > book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of our very
> own
> > > > Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum layout, various
> > > > text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic, totally
> deluxe
> > > > and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the
> recordings,
> > > > the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more than just a
> > > > spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic sound,
> > > > equally composed and improvised, the power of that many drummers,
> > > > each contributing his or her own style, combined with the Boredoms
> > > > three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked guitar and
> > > > spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want to think
> > > > about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane ticket woulda
> > > > been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost makes this
> > > > even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake of one
> of the
> > > > most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part of, and
> the
> > > > very first Boa Drum.
> > > > Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have a few of
> > > > these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get more, but
> > > > there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want one, act fast.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

I remember when the documentary was going to run in NYC.  I just
couldn't get down there to see it!  I'm holding out for a DVD.

Did anybody else notice that Super Roots 10 is listed on CD Japan with
a release date at the end of January?  Anybody know what it actually is?

--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, "jeffwinterberg"
<jeffwinterberg@...> wrote:
>
> The documentary is still currently showing in Japan. I saw it in New
> York back in October where it played twice in one night, that was it.
> It was really good and the sound is from this recording. The film's
> creator, Jun Kawaguchi, is hoping to someday have a dvd release.
> I agree that the sound on this box set really does a great job at
> approximating how heavy it was to actually be there.
>
>
>
> --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Got my copy from CDJapan a few weeks back.  The audio is MEGA!  The
> > earth shook while I had it on in the car earlier this week.
> >
> > The DVD is a RIP-OFF!  Very disappointing.  With all the cameras they
> > had at that event they should have very easily been able to put
> > together the entire 100 minutes on video.  The cool part about the
> > video is that I actually found myself in it!  25 minutes of footage
> > just isn't enough though.
> >
> > Where's the DVD of that documentary?
> >
> > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, ripleyjames@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:
> > >
> > > album cover
> > >
> > > []
> > >  BOREDOMS
> > > []
> > >  77 Boa Drum
> > > []
> > >  (Commons)
> > > []
> > > 2cd + dvd + Book
> > > []
> > > 125.00
> > > []
> > >
> > >
> > > It's finally here! An audio / video document of the amazing 77 Boa
> > > Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th, 2007.
> > > Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd
> > > release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so this right
> > > here is the only documentof that fantastic and now legendary
> > > performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77 Boa Drum
> > > contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split into two
> > > halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the event, all
> > > housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold
hardcover
> > > book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of our very
own
> > > Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum layout, various
> > > text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic, totally
deluxe
> > > and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the
recordings,
> > > the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more than just a
> > > spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic sound,
> > > equally composed and improvised, the power of that many drummers,
> > > each contributing his or her own style, combined with the Boredoms
> > > three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked guitar and
> > > spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want to think
> > > about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane ticket woulda
> > > been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost makes this
> > > even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake of one
of the
> > > most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part of, and
the
> > > very first Boa Drum.
> > > Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have a few of
> > > these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get more, but
> > > there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want one, act fast.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

The documentary is still currently showing in Japan. I saw it in New
York back in October where it played twice in one night, that was it.
It was really good and the sound is from this recording. The film's
creator, Jun Kawaguchi, is hoping to someday have a dvd release.
I agree that the sound on this box set really does a great job at
approximating how heavy it was to actually be there.



--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, exfedex2000 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Got my copy from CDJapan a few weeks back.  The audio is MEGA!  The
> earth shook while I had it on in the car earlier this week.
>
> The DVD is a RIP-OFF!  Very disappointing.  With all the cameras they
> had at that event they should have very easily been able to put
> together the entire 100 minutes on video.  The cool part about the
> video is that I actually found myself in it!  25 minutes of footage
> just isn't enough though.
>
> Where's the DVD of that documentary?
>
> --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, ripleyjames@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >  From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:
> >
> > album cover
> >
> > []
> >  BOREDOMS
> > []
> >  77 Boa Drum
> > []
> >  (Commons)
> > []
> > 2cd + dvd + Book
> > []
> > 125.00
> > []
> >
> >
> > It's finally here! An audio / video document of the amazing 77 Boa
> > Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th, 2007.
> > Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd
> > release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so this right
> > here is the only documentof that fantastic and now legendary
> > performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77 Boa Drum
> > contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split into two
> > halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the event, all
> > housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold hardcover
> > book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of our very own
> > Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum layout, various
> > text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic, totally deluxe
> > and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the recordings,
> > the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more than just a
> > spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic sound,
> > equally composed and improvised, the power of that many drummers,
> > each contributing his or her own style, combined with the Boredoms
> > three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked guitar and
> > spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want to think
> > about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane ticket woulda
> > been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost makes this
> > even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake of one of the
> > most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part of, and the
> > very first Boa Drum.
> > Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have a few of
> > these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get more, but
> > there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want one, act fast.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Got my copy from CDJapan a few weeks back.  The audio is MEGA!  The
earth shook while I had it on in the car earlier this week.

The DVD is a RIP-OFF!  Very disappointing.  With all the cameras they
had at that event they should have very easily been able to put
together the entire 100 minutes on video.  The cool part about the
video is that I actually found myself in it!  25 minutes of footage
just isn't enough though.

Where's the DVD of that documentary?

--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, ripleyjames@... wrote:
>
>
>  From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:
>
> album cover
>
> []
>  BOREDOMS
> []
>  77 Boa Drum
> []
>  (Commons)
> []
> 2cd + dvd + Book
> []
> 125.00
> []
>
>
> It's finally here! An audio / video document of the amazing 77 Boa
> Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th, 2007.
> Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd
> release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so this right
> here is the only documentof that fantastic and now legendary
> performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77 Boa Drum
> contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split into two
> halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the event, all
> housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold hardcover
> book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of our very own
> Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum layout, various
> text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic, totally deluxe
> and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the recordings,
> the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more than just a
> spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic sound,
> equally composed and improvised, the power of that many drummers,
> each contributing his or her own style, combined with the Boredoms
> three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked guitar and
> spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want to think
> about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane ticket woulda
> been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost makes this
> even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake of one of the
> most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part of, and the
> very first Boa Drum.
> Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have a few of
> these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get more, but
> there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want one, act fast.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

From Aquarius Records in San Francisco:

album cover

[]
  BOREDOMS
[]
  77 Boa Drum
[]
  (Commons)
[]
2cd + dvd + Book
[]
125.00
[]


It's finally here! An audio / video document of the amazing 77 Boa
Drum performance that took place in Brooklyn on July 7th, 2007.
Originally filmed for a full length theatrical and dvd
release, those plans were scrapped for some reason, so this right
here is the only documentof that fantastic and now legendary
performance. Available only as a very pricey import, 77 Boa Drum
contains 2cds, a full recording of the performance split into two
halves, a dvd, featuring 20 minutes of video from the event, all
housed in a massive and gorgeously designed green and gold hardcover
book, packed with tons of photos, including a couple of our very own
Andee, who was one of the 77, diagrams of the drum layout, various
text and other imagery. It's really pretty fantastic, totally deluxe
and elaborate. And beyond object as art, listening to the recordings,
the sound is massive and powerful and beautiful, more than just a
spectacle, it was a sprawling chunk or rhythmic organic sound,
equally composed and improvised, the power of that many drummers,
each contributing his or her own style, combined with the Boredoms
three drummer attack, and Eye's homemade multi necked guitar and
spaced out electronics. If you missed it, you might want to think
about picking one of these up (cheaper than the plane ticket woulda
been, right?). And even if you were there, that almost makes this
even more essential, an amazing, over the top, keepsake of one of the
most amazing performances we've ever seen or been a part of, and the
very first Boa Drum.
Needless to say, this is crazy limited, and we only have a few of
these. When we run out, we'll hopefully be able to get more, but
there's certainly no guarantee. So if you really want one, act fast.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

'robertheinlein', interested in contacting you, if you're still out
there...

Has anyone come up with a decent audio recording of either event?

---- ripleyjames@... wrote:
> The interview takes place around the time of the 77 BoaDrums event and >mostly
deals with the meaning and inspiration of it all. Interesting stuff.


Sorry, now that I look at the article again, the interview took place in March
of this year but they almost talk exclusively about the 77 Boadrum event.

I don't think this has been mentioned here yet; interview in Bomb by Hisham
Akira Bharoocha of Eye and Yoshimi. Unfortunately the below link does not
contain the interview, just the introduction. The interview takes place around
the time of the 77 BoaDrums event and mostly deals with the meaning and
inspiration of it all. Interesting stuff. I just came across it at Barnes &
Noble yesterday but it looks like the new Fall issue of Bomb is already out, so
hurry if you are interested.

http://www.bombsite.com/issues/104/articles/3147

Hey all!

Here's a review by August Brown in the LA Times:

"Live: Boredoms at the La Brea Tar Pits"

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-boredoms11-2008aug11,0,438\
3033.story

The Japanese art-punk ensemble rolls out the percussion for the L.A.
premiere of the avant-garde '888 BoaDrum.'
By August Brown, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
August 11, 2008
Boredoms' free Friday night concert at the La Brea Tar Pits was
probably the second-most impressive percussion-centric event in the
world that evening. But it's a testament to the wild ambitions of
Boredoms' founder, Yamatsuka Eye, and the 88 drummers who joined him
for a new avant-garde symphony, "888 BoaDrum," that it took the
opening ceremonies of the Beijing Olympics to overshadow the Japanese
art-punk ensemble.

"888 BoaDrum" arrived on the numerologically auspicious heels of last
year's "77 BoaDrum," held in New York's Empire-Fulton Ferry State Park
on July 7, 2007, where Eye and Boredoms' three full-time drummers
recruited 73 local percussionists, many in popular experimental rock
bands, to accompany a similar, 77-minute new work. This year's version
upped the degree of difficulty and the length of the sprawling new
piece by 11 minutes.

Eye and his band led the Los Angeles debut of "888 BoaDrum," while the
New York-based experimental quartet Gang Gang Dance led the identical
piece in New York on the same night.

L.A. has not been a town for unhinged concert behavior lately, but the
unchecked giddiness of the thousands splayed across the hills of the
lawn outside the Page Museum couldn't have been due only to the
copious joints being passed through the audience.

Boredoms' task of enlisting 85 competent drummers to play a largely
unrehearsed work proved easier than it sounds, involving something
almost akin to a series of sleeper cells for percussionists. A central
group of Boredoms' associates (spearheaded by "BoaDrum" coordinator,
Japanese-speaking liaison drummer Hisham Akira Bharoocha of the band
Soft Circle) each recruited subgroups of drummers who are based in
L.A. or who could travel that day, then arranged them in a spiral
around Boredoms' members on the lawn at the Tar Pits.

Dan Rowan, of the L.A.-based all-drum quartet Foot Village, was one
who made the cut.

"We knew Warren [Huegel] from [the San Francisco band] Tussle, and
he's in the inner circle of this," he said. "I heard stories about
losers with managers calling up Boredoms and saying, 'You have to let
us be in this.' "

Fans of Modest Mouse, Hella, Jawbreaker and Hole would have recognized
those bands' percussionists in the throng, along with at least one
representative from nearly every local indie rock outfit of note. The
lineup was also notably gender-integrated, with drummers from Mika
Miko, Unwound and Erase Errata, plus many other women in prominent
section spots. The sub-group leaders had a few days to practice the
piece, but most drummers had only that day to sharpen their chops for
the evening.

"It was a little chaotic, but they wanted chaos," said Aaron Sperske,
of the recently reunited L.A. psych-country group Beachwood Sparks.
"It was about one-third drummers and two-thirds people who knew how to
play drums. If this were a summer camp, you could already see who
would hang and who would be left out. It'd be like 'Meatballs.' "

There was something deeply appropriate about hosting the concert at
the Tar Pits, as there's a primeval, almost geologic power to that
much percussion. The show began promptly at 8:08 p.m., with a
minutes-long cymbal swell beginning on Boredoms' central stage and
spilling out into the spiral. The swell soon built into a cacophonous
free-for-all of fills that surely sent the residents of the nearby
Park La Brea Apartments scrambling to their windows to see if J.J.
Abrams was filming a "Cloverfield" sequel nearby.

The rest of the piece moved with surprising synchronicity through
passages reminiscent of everything from Led Zeppelin to Indian ragas,
'90s drum-and-bass and Neu!-esque krautrock. At the center of the
stage, Eye howled and conducted with unhinged vigor, cuing the
"BoaDrum" equivalent of page turns with an enormous wand that doubled
as a drumstick for triggering samples on a giant bank of synthesizers.

Fans were free to wander, as the audience was arranged in the round.
One elderly man led a gaggle of scruffy twentysomethings in a
full-body convulsion dance, while across the field, a lone woman
hula-hooped with singular commitment and a man hawked his silk-screen
art prints. True to the hippie-ish nature of any drum circle, one hot
rumor going around "BoaDrum" suggested that the end of the L.A. spiral
connected in a straight line with the end of the New York spiral to
form -- yes -- the number 8.

"888 BoaDrum" was divided into three movements, and each of the
groups' transitional points was like watching a tank make a U-turn: a
bit cumbersome and unwieldy, but fearsome once it got rolling. Instead
of a bombastic finale, "888 BoaDrum" ended much as it started, with
the ensemble's marital rhythms dissolving inward until the three
Boredoms drummers ceased after a final cymbal trill.

Although the "BoaDrum" arrangement was exhilarating and exhausting
even for the audience, most of the drummers greeted friends on the
lawn with huge smiles, as if the heavens (and numbers) had aligned
just for them on this night.

"I feel totally fine," Bharoocha said immediately after the show, as
he fielded a dozen well-wishing handshakes in both English and
Japanese. "The piece feels smaller than you think after all the planning."

august.brown@...

I'll be there for sure... just coming up from San Diego, not nearly as far as
Texas...

And if any of you record it (any format, but especially if there's an
overall audio mix), please let me know or post a link to it. Still
looking for last year's on audio.

--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, domsbore <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
>
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/142255-nike-brings-boredoms-88boadrum\
-to-la-brooklyn
>


i'm coming from texas, hope to see some of you guys there.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/142255-nike-brings-boredoms-88boadrum\
-to-la-brooklyn

Oops. That address is www.myspace.com/film77boadrum

Check out www.myspace.com/77boadrum. Seems to be some screenings in
Japan this month. Hopefully the DVD isn't too far off. HAving been
there myself, I know there were tons of cameras there to document the
event.

In other news, Hisham Bharoocha is interviewed in Fact magazine this
month and mentions an 88-drummer event on 08/08/08 in LA and another in
NYC. Check out www.factmagazine.co.uk

--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, alterego100usa <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> And I'm still wondering why Boredoms couldn't ahve played
> Toronto, which is not all that far from here, and obviously a major
> city.

Ahh, good one. My guess is that it has to do with visa issues. The band has to
pay someone
in the US to process their work permits and visas, so they can earn money
legally from the
music they play in the US.  Not certain about the Canadian rules, but there's
probably some
similarity.

Point is, the extra cost of any visa or work permits required probably doesn't
make a Toronto
gig likely, unless they could do 3-4 or more Canadian shows, and being Canada,
those would
be quite far apart, probably. Plus, customs clearance of the gear into Canada,
then back into
the US, could add to the headaches.

cheers,
joe

Glad for your posting. I'm not opposed to traveling for an event, but
was just counting on the venues to advertise ticket availability more
than 3 or 4 weeks prior to the event itself. Typically, in the music-
rich Detroit area, even many small club gigs are advertised a couple
of months earlier, and some bigger concerts are promoted 6 months or
so earlier. And I'm still wondering why Boredoms couldn't ahve played
Toronto, which is not all that far from here, and obviously a major
city.-- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, "almurphy56" <almurphy56@...>
wrote:
>
> we would all wish to see a bigger tour, but i think, given the
> realities of touring today, boredoms have done a good job at
bringing
> in new fans, i mean, 77 last summer is a case in point. that was
> certainly not existing boredoms fans. that was the shit to see! i
came
> up from virginia for it, and was totally blown away at the response
to
> the event. i guess we can thank this new world of internet hype and
> blogs and shit for that. i see it as kind of bittersweet that
boredoms
> have been sucked into the blogosphere and all that, on the one hand
> its great for expanding an audience, but of course there's all the
> internet bullshit and short attention spans that i see all over
> message boards (like the av club one i just read)that i hate to see
my
> favorite band getting sucked into. so i think it is the right way to
> go to spread the word to your friends, other people, in person. the
> internet these days is a lion's den, people's attention spans get
> shorter by the minute.
> also, boredoms have kind of had a zeppelin-esque approach to
touring,
> which, with fewer and more centralized shows in the states, has the
> effect of making them more anticipated, memorable and talked-about
> events. but yes, i agree, bad promotion squashes that approach
pretty
> quick.
> anyway, pointless post. but it's definitely the best to bring people
> to a show. i brought 2 of my friends to boadrum, and their heads
were
> blown 20 miles into the sky just like that.
>
>
>
>
> --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, alterego100usa <no_reply@>
wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it has become prohibitive for bands to make the trip
physically
> > these days. I was seriously going to try for Philadelphia or DC,
made
> > several direct inquiries, but venues in both cities put tickets
on
> > sale extremely close to the event dates, and with my work, I had
to
> > know some absolutes, like concert dates and ticket availability,
to
> > be able to free up the time. Websites for both of those venues
> > finally only listed the concerts a matter of a few weeks or so
before
> > the shows. Lodging in those cases would not have been a problem
at
> > all, as I have close family in that region. A smaller-scale
analogy
> > can be applied with the talented local musicians I know, many of
whom
> > play in a cycle of venues in front of generally identical small
> > groups of fans. I do go to see them each on occasion (or when
> > grouped, as is most often, in package shows) but they're also
> > personal friends of mine, so I see them anyway and get their CDs
> > free, etc. They often see the same faces when they play because
it's
> > so difficult for these musicians to get to play additional venues
> > with owners who aren't corrupt or disinterested. Because of this
(in
> > part), their live audience does not really expand unless they can
> > expand their territory of coverage. A group like Boredoms has an
> > exceptional live performance approach that I believe would really
> > expand their audience to very rewarding proportions IF others
could
> > be exposed to that art. That's where that investment toward
> > touring/A&R/etc. can pay off quickly. I would've seen them this
year
> > if those venues had simply advertised tickets a reasonable length
of
> > time before the concerts, but that has nothing to do with
Boredoms,
> > just poor advertising. Even if they'd played Toronto, I would've
been
> > there; maybe that could be considered next time around?--- In
> > theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, Joe Janecek <joejanecek@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >but now they each limit their total USA appearances to just a
few
> > very
> > > large (and sometimes regionally-clustered) cities, so neither
are
> > > really expanding their audiences by number anymore, just
playing to
> > the
> > > existing fans. This is truly a shame.<
> > >
> > > Yes, the bigger problem is that ticket sales do not pay for the
> > tours
> > > here in the US for the international acts. Even WB, back in the
day,
> > > had trouble bringing a band over for a long run, as it was very
> > > expensive. Now those days are certainly past, as labels won't
spend
> > the
> > > cash unless they get a specific ROI- return on investment.
> > >
> > > When Boredoms were on the first part of Lollapalooza 94, the
only
> > way
> > > the deal could be done was if Boredoms gave up their portion of
the
> > > Lolla t-shirt for which every band received money. That money
helped
> > > alongside the funds the label also chipped in. It was a once in
a
> > > lifetime opportunity for Boredoms to get that slot, so it was
worth
> > it.
> > > Having Kurt Cobain and similar musicians as fans certainly
helped
> > too.
> > > (BTW, part 2 of that Lolla tour featured Green Day in that
opening
> > > slot, just as the band was getting huge - but I digress.)
> > >
> > > Now, Boredoms are on Vice or Thrill Jockey (SR 9), labels that
tend
> > to
> > > give little monetary tour support. Tour support just isn't in
the
> > > vocabulary of the indie labels, as it's rarely recouped against
> > album
> > > sales. Sadly, passion alone cannot move a band and tour bus
from
> > city
> > > to city.
> > >
> > > Also, their booking agent, Windish Agency, has to be very
selective
> > > give the available tour window the band has available. They need
> > > guaranteed money that makes sense for the tour at hand. Do I
wish
> > Bore
> > > could do 30 dates? Sure. But the band probably has just a few
weeks
> > in
> > > reality, and yes, regionally-clustered shows make travel more
> > > affordable.
> > >
> > > When you mention "playing to the existing fans" - well, I
disagree
> > > there. It's your duty as a music fan, as a BORE fan, to pack up
the
> > > station wagon with your friends and make them experience
Boredoms.
> > Hey,
> > > Bore made it to America for you, can't you drag some friends
across
> > > state lines to see them?
> > >
> > > The current music business environment has changed the game for
> > > marginal bands and labels, and the future remains uncertain. At
> > least
> > > America is inexpensive for most bands compared to years past
with
> > the
> > > current exchange rates. Maybe more will take up the offer to
come
> > the
> > > the USA.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > joe
> > >
> >
>

we would all wish to see a bigger tour, but i think, given the
realities of touring today, boredoms have done a good job at bringing
in new fans, i mean, 77 last summer is a case in point. that was
certainly not existing boredoms fans. that was the shit to see! i came
up from virginia for it, and was totally blown away at the response to
the event. i guess we can thank this new world of internet hype and
blogs and shit for that. i see it as kind of bittersweet that boredoms
have been sucked into the blogosphere and all that, on the one hand
its great for expanding an audience, but of course there's all the
internet bullshit and short attention spans that i see all over
message boards (like the av club one i just read)that i hate to see my
favorite band getting sucked into. so i think it is the right way to
go to spread the word to your friends, other people, in person. the
internet these days is a lion's den, people's attention spans get
shorter by the minute.
also, boredoms have kind of had a zeppelin-esque approach to touring,
which, with fewer and more centralized shows in the states, has the
effect of making them more anticipated, memorable and talked-about
events. but yes, i agree, bad promotion squashes that approach pretty
quick.
anyway, pointless post. but it's definitely the best to bring people
to a show. i brought 2 of my friends to boadrum, and their heads were
blown 20 miles into the sky just like that.




--- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, alterego100usa <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, it has become prohibitive for bands to make the trip physically
> these days. I was seriously going to try for Philadelphia or DC, made
> several direct inquiries, but venues in both cities put tickets on
> sale extremely close to the event dates, and with my work, I had to
> know some absolutes, like concert dates and ticket availability, to
> be able to free up the time. Websites for both of those venues
> finally only listed the concerts a matter of a few weeks or so before
> the shows. Lodging in those cases would not have been a problem at
> all, as I have close family in that region. A smaller-scale analogy
> can be applied with the talented local musicians I know, many of whom
> play in a cycle of venues in front of generally identical small
> groups of fans. I do go to see them each on occasion (or when
> grouped, as is most often, in package shows) but they're also
> personal friends of mine, so I see them anyway and get their CDs
> free, etc. They often see the same faces when they play because it's
> so difficult for these musicians to get to play additional venues
> with owners who aren't corrupt or disinterested. Because of this (in
> part), their live audience does not really expand unless they can
> expand their territory of coverage. A group like Boredoms has an
> exceptional live performance approach that I believe would really
> expand their audience to very rewarding proportions IF others could
> be exposed to that art. That's where that investment toward
> touring/A&R/etc. can pay off quickly. I would've seen them this year
> if those venues had simply advertised tickets a reasonable length of
> time before the concerts, but that has nothing to do with Boredoms,
> just poor advertising. Even if they'd played Toronto, I would've been
> there; maybe that could be considered next time around?--- In
> theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, Joe Janecek <joejanecek@> wrote:
> >
> > >but now they each limit their total USA appearances to just a few
> very
> > large (and sometimes regionally-clustered) cities, so neither are
> > really expanding their audiences by number anymore, just playing to
> the
> > existing fans. This is truly a shame.<
> >
> > Yes, the bigger problem is that ticket sales do not pay for the
> tours
> > here in the US for the international acts. Even WB, back in the day,
> > had trouble bringing a band over for a long run, as it was very
> > expensive. Now those days are certainly past, as labels won't spend
> the
> > cash unless they get a specific ROI- return on investment.
> >
> > When Boredoms were on the first part of Lollapalooza 94, the only
> way
> > the deal could be done was if Boredoms gave up their portion of the
> > Lolla t-shirt for which every band received money. That money helped
> > alongside the funds the label also chipped in. It was a once in a
> > lifetime opportunity for Boredoms to get that slot, so it was worth
> it.
> > Having Kurt Cobain and similar musicians as fans certainly helped
> too.
> > (BTW, part 2 of that Lolla tour featured Green Day in that opening
> > slot, just as the band was getting huge - but I digress.)
> >
> > Now, Boredoms are on Vice or Thrill Jockey (SR 9), labels that tend
> to
> > give little monetary tour support. Tour support just isn't in the
> > vocabulary of the indie labels, as it's rarely recouped against
> album
> > sales. Sadly, passion alone cannot move a band and tour bus from
> city
> > to city.
> >
> > Also, their booking agent, Windish Agency, has to be very selective
> > give the available tour window the band has available. They need
> > guaranteed money that makes sense for the tour at hand. Do I wish
> Bore
> > could do 30 dates? Sure. But the band probably has just a few weeks
> in
> > reality, and yes, regionally-clustered shows make travel more
> > affordable.
> >
> > When you mention "playing to the existing fans" - well, I disagree
> > there. It's your duty as a music fan, as a BORE fan, to pack up the
> > station wagon with your friends and make them experience Boredoms.
> Hey,
> > Bore made it to America for you, can't you drag some friends across
> > state lines to see them?
> >
> > The current music business environment has changed the game for
> > marginal bands and labels, and the future remains uncertain. At
> least
> > America is inexpensive for most bands compared to years past with
> the
> > current exchange rates. Maybe more will take up the offer to come
> the
> > the USA.
> >
> > cheers,
> > joe
> >
>

Yes, it has become prohibitive for bands to make the trip physically
these days. I was seriously going to try for Philadelphia or DC, made
several direct inquiries, but venues in both cities put tickets on
sale extremely close to the event dates, and with my work, I had to
know some absolutes, like concert dates and ticket availability, to
be able to free up the time. Websites for both of those venues
finally only listed the concerts a matter of a few weeks or so before
the shows. Lodging in those cases would not have been a problem at
all, as I have close family in that region. A smaller-scale analogy
can be applied with the talented local musicians I know, many of whom
play in a cycle of venues in front of generally identical small
groups of fans. I do go to see them each on occasion (or when
grouped, as is most often, in package shows) but they're also
personal friends of mine, so I see them anyway and get their CDs
free, etc. They often see the same faces when they play because it's
so difficult for these musicians to get to play additional venues
with owners who aren't corrupt or disinterested. Because of this (in
part), their live audience does not really expand unless they can
expand their territory of coverage. A group like Boredoms has an
exceptional live performance approach that I believe would really
expand their audience to very rewarding proportions IF others could
be exposed to that art. That's where that investment toward
touring/A&R/etc. can pay off quickly. I would've seen them this year
if those venues had simply advertised tickets a reasonable length of
time before the concerts, but that has nothing to do with Boredoms,
just poor advertising. Even if they'd played Toronto, I would've been
there; maybe that could be considered next time around?--- In
theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, Joe Janecek <joejanecek@...> wrote:
>
> >but now they each limit their total USA appearances to just a few
very
> large (and sometimes regionally-clustered) cities, so neither are
> really expanding their audiences by number anymore, just playing to
the
> existing fans. This is truly a shame.<
>
> Yes, the bigger problem is that ticket sales do not pay for the
tours
> here in the US for the international acts. Even WB, back in the day,
> had trouble bringing a band over for a long run, as it was very
> expensive. Now those days are certainly past, as labels won't spend
the
> cash unless they get a specific ROI- return on investment.
>
> When Boredoms were on the first part of Lollapalooza 94, the only
way
> the deal could be done was if Boredoms gave up their portion of the
> Lolla t-shirt for which every band received money. That money helped
> alongside the funds the label also chipped in. It was a once in a
> lifetime opportunity for Boredoms to get that slot, so it was worth
it.
> Having Kurt Cobain and similar musicians as fans certainly helped
too.
> (BTW, part 2 of that Lolla tour featured Green Day in that opening
> slot, just as the band was getting huge - but I digress.)
>
> Now, Boredoms are on Vice or Thrill Jockey (SR 9), labels that tend
to
> give little monetary tour support. Tour support just isn't in the
> vocabulary of the indie labels, as it's rarely recouped against
album
> sales. Sadly, passion alone cannot move a band and tour bus from
city
> to city.
>
> Also, their booking agent, Windish Agency, has to be very selective
> give the available tour window the band has available. They need
> guaranteed money that makes sense for the tour at hand. Do I wish
Bore
> could do 30 dates? Sure. But the band probably has just a few weeks
in
> reality, and yes, regionally-clustered shows make travel more
> affordable.
>
> When you mention "playing to the existing fans" - well, I disagree
> there. It's your duty as a music fan, as a BORE fan, to pack up the
> station wagon with your friends and make them experience Boredoms.
Hey,
> Bore made it to America for you, can't you drag some friends across
> state lines to see them?
>
> The current music business environment has changed the game for
> marginal bands and labels, and the future remains uncertain. At
least
> America is inexpensive for most bands compared to years past with
the
> current exchange rates. Maybe more will take up the offer to come
the
> the USA.
>
> cheers,
> joe
>

>but now they each limit their total USA appearances to just a few very
large (and sometimes regionally-clustered) cities, so neither are
really expanding their audiences by number anymore, just playing to the
existing fans. This is truly a shame.<

Yes, the bigger problem is that ticket sales do not pay for the tours
here in the US for the international acts. Even WB, back in the day,
had trouble bringing a band over for a long run, as it was very
expensive. Now those days are certainly past, as labels won't spend the
cash unless they get a specific ROI- return on investment.

When Boredoms were on the first part of Lollapalooza 94, the only way
the deal could be done was if Boredoms gave up their portion of the
Lolla t-shirt for which every band received money. That money helped
alongside the funds the label also chipped in. It was a once in a
lifetime opportunity for Boredoms to get that slot, so it was worth it.
Having Kurt Cobain and similar musicians as fans certainly helped too.
(BTW, part 2 of that Lolla tour featured Green Day in that opening
slot, just as the band was getting huge - but I digress.)

Now, Boredoms are on Vice or Thrill Jockey (SR 9), labels that tend to
give little monetary tour support. Tour support just isn't in the
vocabulary of the indie labels, as it's rarely recouped against album
sales. Sadly, passion alone cannot move a band and tour bus from city
to city.

Also, their booking agent, Windish Agency, has to be very selective
give the available tour window the band has available. They need
guaranteed money that makes sense for the tour at hand. Do I wish Bore
could do 30 dates? Sure. But the band probably has just a few weeks in
reality, and yes, regionally-clustered shows make travel more
affordable.

When you mention "playing to the existing fans" - well, I disagree
there. It's your duty as a music fan, as a BORE fan, to pack up the
station wagon with your friends and make them experience Boredoms. Hey,
Bore made it to America for you, can't you drag some friends across
state lines to see them?

The current music business environment has changed the game for
marginal bands and labels, and the future remains uncertain. At least
America is inexpensive for most bands compared to years past with the
current exchange rates. Maybe more will take up the offer to come the
the USA.

cheers,
joe

Not to mention the extremely limited US tours of the past several
years. Both Boredoms and Cornelius used to play in the Detroit area
rather regularly up to a point, but now they each limit their total
USA appearances to just a few very large (and sometimes regionally-
clustered) cities, so neither are really expanding their audiences by
number anymore, just playing to the existing fans. This is truly a
shame. As opposed to (for instance) Boredoms playing Lollapalooza and
Nirvana tours in the early '90s, when huge numbers of young rock fans
were exposed to the group on a consistent basis. I did come across an
older tape of Boredoms the other week, from the State Fair Arena in
Detroit, on the Nirvana tour. The venue had/has horrible acoustics,
so it sounds like a muffled Toho soundtrack, but the live concert was
quite good. --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, fastyouth81
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> well of course if you already saw you wouldn't want that experience
to be recreated.  but
> you are definitely in the minority as there were thousands of
boredoms fans who couldn't
> make it or worse who came and  were shut out of the park when it
filled up.
>
> and actually, from what i've heard they wouldn't be re-doing
77Drum.  it would be a new
> composition revolving around the theme of infinity (��)
>
>
> -- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, "jeffwinterberg"
<jeffwinterberg@> wrote:
> >
> > I personally think it would cheapen the 7/7/7 thing to re-do it
with
> > 8/8/8. I am speaking as someone who go to see it so I don't know
how
> > I'd feel if I had missed last summer.
> >
> >
> > --- In theboredoms@yahoogroups.com, fastyouth81 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > interesting stuff in there, although they don't seem like they
are
> > preparing to do 88drum this
> > > year.
> > >
> > > http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/boredoms
> > >
> >
>