You know, I just read this, and also responded to Bagnall in a private note off
the list, but I'd like to cut and paste something here that about made me piss
myself laughing so hard. It's totally amazing that after all this time, the
information below still makes me think that all this guy does is want a fucking
pity party, and WHINE party for himself. All I can to this below is WAH.



I don't even reply to these emails anymore. It just disgusts me how
it's never enough for some people. I should know... I used to be the
same way. I paid $250 for a pink world poster on ebay that now sits in
a storage unit collecting dust. I spent nearly $10,000 of my personal
money (save nothing of the months of phone calls and paperwork) to put
together Retrospective and never made a dime off it. I've sold nearly
every collectible that I ever wasted money on. In the coming weeks
I'll be getting rid of damn near all of it - because it's JUST stuff.
I used to have friendships entirely based on this premise. People I
thought were my friends were just leaches sucking off of me for
information and things they could get from me. I bet Tony feels the
same way. Have you all stopped to think of how completely insane you
are all about some of this? There are some exceptions. I still think
Sylvia (although I've not spoken to her in many months) is a stand
up-class-act. But for every one of her there are 100 that are selfish
bastards who only ever wanted from me what they could get for themselves.


Years ago, Bagnall kept pissing and moaning, making claims that Tony MADE HIM
spend $10,000 of his own money, claims that he had to fly Tony and his brother
back and forth to Spain, Mallorca, and other places besides that, and Bagnall
said Tony MADE HIM spend all his own personal funds to get Happy Street Records,
Boystown and Retrospective going. WAH. Was there a gun to your head? Did he
physically make you do it, drag you halfway across the world from down south
where you live, and make you physically do it? You took that upon yourself.
Don't come here out of the last 3-4 years, pissing and moaning that you had
friends that were based solely on the fact that you could get them information,
and get them shit. Hell, I'm the FIRST to admit I used to lie, make shit up, and
try to act cool as you because I wanted people to think that I knew Tony, that I
knew who he was, that I knew what was going on, and all that other crap. The sad
part about it? Years ago, it was because I wanted to be just like Mike Bagnall,
and lay claim to something that really doesn't mean THAT MUCH. Half the world
doesn't know Tony Carey. Half the other world doesn't know Planet P Project. The
people that DO know it are those that others like me and other fans have shared
the music with by sending out sampler Cds, telling folks that Pink World is
STILL able to be purchased legally through various shops and that kinda thing.

The SAD part was that I thought that Mike Bagnall was cool, because he claimed
that he knew Tony's career. The sad end? He was making a profit by selling his
Cds, asking $15 a POP for Cds and selling them to hundreds of fans on his
mailing list through his website. He claims he's making no profit, but it seems
every other day he was selling something, and then lo and behold, his WEBSITE
gets shut down. I guess it finally caught up to him.

The story goes back years and years. Bagnall would pop up regularly on Ebay,
including selling a first printing copy of Go Out Dancing (the BRAND NEW PPP
release) somewhere in the range of over 700 DOLLARS. Yeah, that wasn't a typo.
You're telling me that he made no profit? Mike Bagnall cries for himself. He
doesn't care about anyone else. He pisses and moans, because he wants the
attention. NO ONE made Mike Bagnall do what he did. He did it because he's just
like the rest of us fans. He wanted to know what was going on, have Tony's
career stay afloat, BUT Bagnall took it one step further. He got himself
involved in Tony's career, and did what? I don't recall any more than ONE TOUR
DATE (the SXSW conference in Texas), and NOTHING MORE. I only recall Bagnall
repeatedly selling Cds of material from Tony's career on his website (I have
those Cds, having spent hundreds of dollars on every single one that was made
available). I know people that have purchased these through the years, and
through the years, I have provided HUNDREDS of copies so that people like
Bagnall can't make anothe dime of pure profit from Tony's career.

Bagnall cries for himself. Over the years, he's pissed and moaned that Happy
Street Records made no money, but he continued? Sure. Why not. Tony provides him
with music, unreleased songs, material NO ONE ELSE has heard or seen, so why the
hell not? Then after it's all said and done, Bagnall pisses and moans that there
is nothing left, he made no money, WAH WAH WAH. That's what I can say about
that.

I've been a fan for years. I LIED and I made shit up to sound JUST like Bagnall.
I wanted people to think I was cool like him. But yet he returns here after
years, claiming WE are like crack addicted whores, and that we can't stay away
from this? Look at yourself in the mirror Bagnall. YOU returned after selling
item after item of Tony's (you claim no profit, but yet you're on here
ADVERTISING that you're selling the Tony Carey domain? ADVERTISING your profit
for sale? You claim you made no money? Fill our heads full of more bullshit
Bagnall. I LIED and I MADE SHIT UP trying to be just like you. That's sad in
itself)

Because who would WANT to be a pathetic sack of shit like you? Selling someone's
music for PROFIT. Making hundreds of dollars selling Cds to die-hard fans that
cannot get this stuff anywhere else, and NOW? You claim it's just STUFF. But
this "stuff" keeps YOU coming back (a brand new membership on yahoo, and hiding
under a noillusion name? HIDING. Why not come out of the woodwork you pathetic
sack of shit).

What I don't understand is that YOU make claims of US being like crack addicts?
IF you're so pissed off, you're so upset, and you're so frustrated that Tony
MADE you pursue and push his career and did he MAKE YOU return to the Tony Carey
fold, and post notes like the one you'd written on here? NO. You returned under
your OWN POWER. To ADVERTISE selling Tony Carey's domain and all the "headaches"

What headache? There IS no headache. They are maintaining a perfectly good
website selling Tony's material ON the website (I have purchased it myself), to
PROFIT for Tony Carey. They are ADVERTISING his shows, his gigs and different
venues, and people are PAYING to see them. What did you pull off besides selling
his material to profit YOURSELF? To profit YOUR website? And what else? The SXSW
conference that you were later down the line SELLING copies of the Cds? I
obtained a copy of that show without paying. And it's a good show. Just too bad
Tony never did live gigs because YOUR control freak attitude and personality
wouldn't seem to get it through your head that you weren't all that cracked up
to be as you thought you were.

I MADE SHIT UP Bagnall to sound as cool as you. Now looking back? I was as big
of a pathetic sack of shit as you were, because no one needs to be like you. And
now you RETURN to advertise selling MORE of Tony's material and selling MORE of
his career. When is it going to stop Bagnall? Hopefully when you get hit by a
fucking train. Because it seems that you're like herpes Bagnall. You seem to
keep coming BACK in bigger doses.

The only way that anyone is ever going to be rid of you is that if they STOP
purchasing what you keep selling. I'd like to see the day where Tony just sues
your ass, goes after you, and shuts you down. JUST LIKE he obviously did with
the website.

And the sad part? No one has missed you. I sure as hell haven't, because we
don't have to read the ranting, raving, and the frustrated pent up bullshit and
aggrivation that you posted on your note, jealous and obviously ENVIOUS of those
that ARE maintaining Tony's career, pushing it and pursuing it into the future,
SOMETHING you could not do. You made your money Bagnall. You stole his songs,
you stole his career, and did WHAT for the man? Not a damn thing. You did it all
for yourself.

If you think that this list is so bad, and the PEOPLE are so bad on it, and the
fans are so bad, WHY do YOU keep coming back? And coming back? And coming back?
Just go away like you were once before. It was a quiet place without your
miserable pathetic whining ass here. All I can say to you about all the bitching
and complaining? People don't KNOW half the story behind it. They don't know
what you were stealing from him, selling of his, and profits you were making,
reaping dollars and dollars of money on selling HIS material until it came up to
bite you in the ass. And no wonder you disappeared without a trace. Because you
had nothing left. And you don't still to this day.

Sell your precious little belongings of Tony Carey stuff. Then maybe when it's
finally all gone, you'll be gone too, and disappear into the wind. To think that
I lied to be just like you Bagnall makes me sick. To think that I LIED To try to
be cool like you? You're not cool. You're one of those crack addict whores that
you wrote about in your post. Addicted to something that you can't get over. And
sadly? You have no choice. Because there IS someone running a website. There IS
someone running Tony's career, and comparing today to the years past? They're
doing it RIGHT. Something you couldn't as fuck figure out.

And that's all I have to say about that. People? Comment as you will. I've said
what I said. If you would like additional comments about the stuff I posted,
please feel free to contact me off the list. If you would prefer to keep it in
the public forum, I won't respond. If you're Bagnall? I won't respond either,
because I don't want to listen to the bitching, whining and pissing and moaning.
All I can say to Bagnall for it? NO ONE made you do what you did. You did it
yourself, and you didnt' get what you wanted out of it, so all I can say to you
is WAH. Go about your life, and get the fuck OVER IT.

danny






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