Actually I posted it here fanboi. And since you like to post private
emails to the list, I thought I'd return the favor and feature a
portion of your most recent gem to me :)


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How about you fuck yourself? You're a winner yourself. Guess some
things
never change either you pathetic loser. Dig anything up you want, and
then
bend your wife over and shove them up her ass. Or better yet, I will.


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--- In tonycareyfans@yahoogroups.com, "therugratskid"
<therugratskid@c...> wrote:
> You know, I just read this, and also responded to Bagnall in a
private note off the list, but I'd like to cut and paste something
here that about made me piss myself laughing so hard. It's totally
amazing that after all this time, the information below still makes me
think that all this guy does is want a fucking pity party, and WHINE
party for himself. All I can to this below is WAH.
>
>
>
> I don't even reply to these emails anymore. It just disgusts me how
> it's never enough for some people. I should know... I used to be the
> same way. I paid $250 for a pink world poster on ebay that now sits in
> a storage unit collecting dust. I spent nearly $10,000 of my personal
> money (save nothing of the months of phone calls and paperwork) to put
> together Retrospective and never made a dime off it. I've sold nearly
> every collectible that I ever wasted money on. In the coming weeks
> I'll be getting rid of damn near all of it - because it's JUST stuff.
> I used to have friendships entirely based on this premise. People I
> thought were my friends were just leaches sucking off of me for
> information and things they could get from me. I bet Tony feels the
> same way. Have you all stopped to think of how completely insane you
> are all about some of this? There are some exceptions. I still think
> Sylvia (although I've not spoken to her in many months) is a stand
> up-class-act. But for every one of her there are 100 that are selfish
> bastards who only ever wanted from me what they could get for
themselves.
>
>
> Years ago, Bagnall kept pissing and moaning, making claims that Tony
MADE HIM spend $10,000 of his own money, claims that he had to fly
Tony and his brother back and forth to Spain, Mallorca, and other
places besides that, and Bagnall said Tony MADE HIM spend all his own
personal funds to get Happy Street Records, Boystown and Retrospective
going. WAH. Was there a gun to your head? Did he physically make you
do it, drag you halfway across the world from down south where you
live, and make you physically do it? You took that upon yourself.
Don't come here out of the last 3-4 years, pissing and moaning that
you had friends that were based solely on the fact that you could get
them information, and get them shit. Hell, I'm the FIRST to admit I
used to lie, make shit up, and try to act cool as you because I wanted
people to think that I knew Tony, that I knew who he was, that I knew
what was going on, and all that other crap. The sad part about it?
Years ago, it was because I wanted to be just like Mike Bagnall, and
lay claim to something that really doesn't mean THAT MUCH. Half the
world doesn't know Tony Carey. Half the other world doesn't know
Planet P Project. The people that DO know it are those that others
like me and other fans have shared the music with by sending out
sampler Cds, telling folks that Pink World is STILL able to be
purchased legally through various shops and that kinda thing.
>
> The SAD part was that I thought that Mike Bagnall was cool, because
he claimed that he knew Tony's career. The sad end? He was making a
profit by selling his Cds, asking $15 a POP for Cds and selling them
to hundreds of fans on his mailing list through his website. He claims
he's making no profit, but it seems every other day he was selling
something, and then lo and behold, his WEBSITE gets shut down. I guess
it finally caught up to him.
>
> The story goes back years and years. Bagnall would pop up regularly
on Ebay, including selling a first printing copy of Go Out Dancing
(the BRAND NEW PPP release) somewhere in the range of over 700
DOLLARS. Yeah, that wasn't a typo. You're telling me that he made no
profit? Mike Bagnall cries for himself. He doesn't care about anyone
else. He pisses and moans, because he wants the attention. NO ONE made
Mike Bagnall do what he did. He did it because he's just like the rest
of us fans. He wanted to know what was going on, have Tony's career
stay afloat, BUT Bagnall took it one step further. He got himself
involved in Tony's career, and did what? I don't recall any more than
ONE TOUR DATE (the SXSW conference in Texas), and NOTHING MORE. I only
recall Bagnall repeatedly selling Cds of material from Tony's career
on his website (I have those Cds, having spent hundreds of dollars on
every single one that was made available). I know people that have
purchased these through the years, and through the years, I have
provided HUNDREDS of copies so that people like Bagnall can't make
anothe dime of pure profit from Tony's career.
>
> Bagnall cries for himself. Over the years, he's pissed and moaned
that Happy Street Records made no money, but he continued? Sure. Why
not. Tony provides him with music, unreleased songs, material NO ONE
ELSE has heard or seen, so why the hell not? Then after it's all said
and done, Bagnall pisses and moans that there is nothing left, he made
no money, WAH WAH WAH. That's what I can say about that.
>
> I've been a fan for years. I LIED and I made shit up to sound JUST
like Bagnall. I wanted people to think I was cool like him. But yet he
returns here after years, claiming WE are like crack addicted whores,
and that we can't stay away from this? Look at yourself in the mirror
Bagnall. YOU returned after selling item after item of Tony's (you
claim no profit, but yet you're on here ADVERTISING that you're
selling the Tony Carey domain? ADVERTISING your profit for sale? You
claim you made no money? Fill our heads full of more bullshit Bagnall.
I LIED and I MADE SHIT UP trying to be just like you. That's sad in
itself)
>
> Because who would WANT to be a pathetic sack of shit like you?
Selling someone's music for PROFIT. Making hundreds of dollars selling
Cds to die-hard fans that cannot get this stuff anywhere else, and
NOW? You claim it's just STUFF. But this "stuff" keeps YOU coming back
(a brand new membership on yahoo, and hiding under a noillusion name?
HIDING. Why not come out of the woodwork you pathetic sack of shit).
>
> What I don't understand is that YOU make claims of US being like
crack addicts? IF you're so pissed off, you're so upset, and you're so
frustrated that Tony MADE you pursue and push his career and did he
MAKE YOU return to the Tony Carey fold, and post notes like the one
you'd written on here? NO. You returned under your OWN POWER. To
ADVERTISE selling Tony Carey's domain and all the "headaches"
>
> What headache? There IS no headache. They are maintaining a
perfectly good website selling Tony's material ON the website (I have
purchased it myself), to PROFIT for Tony Carey. They are ADVERTISING
his shows, his gigs and different venues, and people are PAYING to see
them. What did you pull off besides selling his material to profit
YOURSELF? To profit YOUR website? And what else? The SXSW conference
that you were later down the line SELLING copies of the Cds? I
obtained a copy of that show without paying. And it's a good show.
Just too bad Tony never did live gigs because YOUR control freak
attitude and personality wouldn't seem to get it through your head
that you weren't all that cracked up to be as you thought you were.
>
> I MADE SHIT UP Bagnall to sound as cool as you. Now looking back? I
was as big of a pathetic sack of shit as you were, because no one
needs to be like you. And now you RETURN to advertise selling MORE of
Tony's material and selling MORE of his career. When is it going to
stop Bagnall? Hopefully when you get hit by a fucking train. Because
it seems that you're like herpes Bagnall. You seem to keep coming BACK
in bigger doses.
>
> The only way that anyone is ever going to be rid of you is that if
they STOP purchasing what you keep selling. I'd like to see the day
where Tony just sues your ass, goes after you, and shuts you down.
JUST LIKE he obviously did with the website.
>
> And the sad part? No one has missed you. I sure as hell haven't,
because we don't have to read the ranting, raving, and the frustrated
pent up bullshit and aggrivation that you posted on your note, jealous
and obviously ENVIOUS of those that ARE maintaining Tony's career,
pushing it and pursuing it into the future, SOMETHING you could not
do. You made your money Bagnall. You stole his songs, you stole his
career, and did WHAT for the man? Not a damn thing. You did it all for
yourself.
>
> If you think that this list is so bad, and the PEOPLE are so bad on
it, and the fans are so bad, WHY do YOU keep coming back? And coming
back? And coming back?
> Just go away like you were once before. It was a quiet place
without your miserable pathetic whining ass here. All I can say to you
about all the bitching and complaining? People don't KNOW half the
story behind it. They don't know what you were stealing from him,
selling of his, and profits you were making, reaping dollars and
dollars of money on selling HIS material until it came up to bite you
in the ass. And no wonder you disappeared without a trace. Because you
had nothing left. And you don't still to this day.
>
> Sell your precious little belongings of Tony Carey stuff. Then maybe
when it's finally all gone, you'll be gone too, and disappear into the
wind. To think that I lied to be just like you Bagnall makes me sick.
To think that I LIED To try to be cool like you? You're not cool.
You're one of those crack addict whores that you wrote about in your
post. Addicted to something that you can't get over. And sadly? You
have no choice. Because there IS someone running a website. There IS
someone running Tony's career, and comparing today to the years past?
They're doing it RIGHT. Something you couldn't as fuck figure out.
>
> And that's all I have to say about that. People? Comment as you
will. I've said what I said. If you would like additional comments
about the stuff I posted, please feel free to contact me off the list.
If you would prefer to keep it in the public forum, I won't respond.
If you're Bagnall? I won't respond either, because I don't want to
listen to the bitching, whining and pissing and moaning. All I can say
to Bagnall for it? NO ONE made you do what you did. You did it
yourself, and you didnt' get what you wanted out of it, so all I can
say to you is WAH. Go about your life, and get the fuck OVER IT.
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