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A weird 12-out-of-BlackJack   Message List  
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BJ# cents
20 11.667
18 10.500
17 9.667
15 8.500
13 7.333
11 6.167
10 5.833
8 4.667
6 3.500
4 2.333
3 1.500
1 0.333

(note that there is no note at 0 cents)

This has 3 7-limit otonal tetrads, 3 7-limit utonal tetrads, both of
blackjack's 10:12:15:18s, and one 12:14:18:21.

Can anyone find a better 12-tone proper subset?




Sat May 12, 2001 8:35 am

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BJ# cents 20 11.667 18 10.500 17 9.667 15 8.500 13 7.333 11 6.167 10 5.833 8 4.667 6 3.500 4 2.333 3 1.500 1 0.333 (note that there is no note at 0 cents) ...
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May 12, 2001
8:35 am

... Cool. Here it is on the chain of 21 Erlich-Keenan generators (shown with "+" signs at the notes of Paul's 12-note subset. [Yes, I'm vain enough to like...
David C Keenan
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May 13, 2001
6:03 am

... Shouldn't the pattern be symmetrical about 65-0? ... you map it ... do that. ... Awesome! Gentlemen (and ladies), start composing! ... How about a better...
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May 13, 2001
8:11 am

... I messed up all right. But no, it should be symmetrical about 0. Here is what it should have been (35 instead of 7): Paul's proper 12 of Blackjack 2 9 16...
David C Keenan
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May 13, 2001
4:37 pm

... Oh, hello! In meantone, yes, ^ and v would be half of # and b. This is the same definition as Vicentino's dot. So you can use them for neutral thirds. ...
Graham Breed
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May 13, 2001
5:14 pm

... notation, we can ... notation actually ... Boston notation doesn't use triangles. See the Mook page (anyone have the link handy)? In any case, 12-tET is...
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May 13, 2001
7:15 pm

... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/22683 ... Right. Graham, *I'm* the one who introduced ^ and v to represent the 1/4-tone symbols in Boston...
monz
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May 13, 2001
8:41 pm

... Okay. So do any existing notations actually use chevrons? Conflicting ASCII diagrams aren't such a problem. But I wonder about copying errors between...
Graham Breed
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May 14, 2001
12:42 pm

... How about this 12-tone scale: 2 9 16 23 30 37 44 51 58 65 0 7 14 21 28 35 42 49 56 63 70 ... Promising or unpromising?...
paul@...
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May 13, 2001
6:53 pm

... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/22678 ... Isn't the second one simply a modal transposition of the first? That's what it looks like to me. ...
monz
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May 13, 2001
8:23 pm

... It's not. It would be only in 21-tone equal temperament (yuk!)....
paul@...
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May 14, 2001
7:11 pm

... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/22755 ... Duh! My bad. Got it. -monz http://www.monz.org "All roads lead to n^0"...
monz
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May 14, 2001
7:40 pm

... Extremely promising harmonically! I haven't looked at melodic. Make us a Scala file of it. There's a sort of secondary generator happening in a lot of...
Dave Keenan
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May 14, 2001
3:14 am

... Nah, the first one was better. ... It's proper: 7 2 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 2 7 7....
paul@...
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May 14, 2001
7:39 pm

... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/22655 ... nominals,this seems a good approach for MIRACLE-31 and its subsets including Blackjack (=...
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May 18, 2001
1:06 am

Wait a minute! I think there has to be a way to make that notation so that Blackjack has all 7 naturals. Actually 2 ways. Based on the fact that Lumma's scale...
David C Keenan
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May 13, 2001
4:51 pm

So much for sleep. Nope. It seems the best you can do is get 6 naturals in blackjack, whichis what the one centred on C-G had (not 5 as I mistakenly wrote). So...
David C Keenan
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May 13, 2001
5:16 pm

Here's one for Alison. 12-tone Blackjack subset, six 4-7-9-11 tetrads 2 9 16 23 30 37 44 51 58 65 0 7 14 21 28 35 42 49 56 63 70 ...
David C Keenan
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May 14, 2001
2:57 am

... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/22715 ... into a text editor (e.g. Notepad or SimpleText), not directly into Scala, and then save them as the...
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May 18, 2001
3:17 am
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