Re: [tuning] Re: Middle-eastern tunings: Arabic, Turkish, Saz
> From: lev36 <lev@...>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 3:49 PM
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Middle-eastern tunings: Arabic, Turkish, Saz
>
>
> --- In tuning@y..., "joemonz" <joemonz@y...> wrote:
>
> > i have a couple of webpages touching on this:
> >
> >
> > Arab Lute Frettings
> > http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/arablute/arablute.htm
>
> Thanks, that's very helpful!
>
> Can you tell me when Zalzal, Mahmoud & Adbulqadir made their
> respective fret-adjustment suggestions? Are they medieval, modern,
> what?
Zalzal died in 791 AD, so he was roughly contemporary with
Charlemagne's Frankish "Holy Roman Empire" in Europe, which
is the origin of our current Western music-theory.
Mahmud died in 1315, and Abdulquadir seems to have been
contemporary with him.
Ellis states [Helmholtz, _On the Sensations of Tone_, English
translation, p 495]: "In the writings of Mahmud of Shirazi
[also called Qutb al-Din Shirazi] (died A.D. 1315) and Abdulqadir,
that they succeeded in replacing these Zalzal notes by adding
three more Fourths proceeding from B 882, contained in the
former series, to E 80, A 678, D 1176. The name of Zalzal
was retained, but used for F 384 and B 882, which already
existed in the second octave. Persian was used for E 294,
and Persian and Zalzal 'middle' were banished".
as i said in my earlier post, i want to add a lot more
numerical data to that webpage... hopefully soon.
-monz
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