Re: [tuning] Re: Middle-eastern tunings: Arabic, Turkish, Saz
During the bombing of Afghanistan I watched a documentary about the lives of
ordinary Afghanis.
One sequence showed a manperchet atop a boulder staring out at the Hindu Kush
mountains and
playing one of those double - barreled oboes (I forget the name). It was without
a doubt the
finest piece of music I've heard in years, of any genre or culture. It rose
above the mindless
destruction being carried on around him. The virtuosity was stunning. It was
obviously improvised,
though it sounded like an elaborate working of a vocal chant. All I can say is
that it was very
"Eastern" and microtonal in the extreme.
Apart from wanting to make or find one of these instruments I'd be interested to
know what scales
or modes this musician would have been playing. A poor guy in rural Afghanistan
in 2002.
I am trying to answer some questions about tuning in theory and practice in Arab and Turkish usage, especially as they relate to the tuning of a saz/bozuk. Any...
... the ... so far, we're in complete agreement. ... are you sure about that? the medieval arabic system, which consists of an extended chain of pure 3/2...
... consists ... equal ... the ... Touma (p. 21) gives an example of one of the tone rows devised by al- Farabi in the 10th c. CE. Expressed in cents: C 0 D...
... pp.18- ... al- ... the whole thing is very close to a subset of 24-equal. ok, i was thinking of something different, then, not al-farabi . . . i'll have to...
hi lev36 and paul, ... i have a couple of webpages touching on this: Arab Lute Frettings http://www.ixpres.com/interval/monzo/arablute/arablute.htm the...
... Thanks, that's very helpful! Can you tell me when Zalzal, Mahmoud & Adbulqadir made their respective fret-adjustment suggestions? Are they medieval,...
... be ... indeed, and 31-equal isn't so far either. but you clipped it ("the scale here") from this message, so your response may make no sense to many...
... I haven't seen a full list of al Farabi's tunings. You can get some from Manuel's scale archive, somewhere at http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf Probably the...
During the bombing of Afghanistan I watched a documentary about the lives of ordinary Afghanis. One sequence showed a manperchet atop a boulder staring out at...
... The "double-barreled oboe" is called _aulos_ in Greek -- I have no idea what the Pashto name would be. I understand that the instrument takes some VERY ...
... Arel-Ezgi system, as you call "koma theory", has nothing to do with the traditional system of Urmawi. It depends on the work of Rauf Yektâ, who adopted...
... the ... well, this is certainly 'theoretical', whether we consider it first hand or second hand. no one measures frets and comes up with a set of ratios as...
Hi Paul, I cannot even dream of beating you on the theoreticl part of it and I have less than no support for the submitted scale. As I mentioned, it's "as far...
... I ... which ... i know i've heard of such systems used to describe medieval arabic music, perhaps correctly, but they are often used to describe modern ...
... Arel-Ezgi system, as you call "koma theory", has nothing to do with the traditional system of Urmawi. It depends on the work of Rauf Yektâ, who adopted...
... not so = ... You could play Turkish music in either 17 or 24 et and noone would beat you. However, especially the seconds are rather flexible (they should...
... under ... really? so what scores do 17 and 31 get? and 53, in the best-case scenario, since it keeps coming up? and i wonder how ertugrul's source would...
Hello, there, Ertugrul Inanc and everyone. Thank you for your posting on traditional Middle Eastern tuning systems and their relationship to the fretting of...
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