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[MMM] Re: 29-HTT Improvisation   Message List  
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Re: bingo (was:: 29-HTT Improvisation)

Hi Monz,

I'm not here.

Well, that's really fun, but I'm sorry to have to report an error.

Sweep over the tunings where the kleisma ([-5 6>) vanishes, and
you'll probably see what I mean. 40-equal doesn't belong.

Of the three places 40-equal can be found on my charts which you
refer to as my zoom applet, none of them lies on the line where the
kleisma vanishes. None of the three resulting "bingo-cards" of 40-
equal would therefore show a zero at coordinates (-5,6).

Back to nonexistence,
Paul





--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@a...> wrote:
> hi Jon,
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Szanto" <JSZANTO@A...> wrote:
>
> > If I belonged to a religion that routinely shouted
> > "Amen!", I would. For the moment, how about "Bingo!"?
> > (and if there is a tuning named Bingo, it's a dog...)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jon
>
>
>
> Gene's been so busy naming new tunings that he might
> actually have a "bingo" tuning, but i don't know for
> sure. but in any case, there's this ...
>
> http://tonalsoft.com/enc/bingo.htm
>
>
> :)
>
>
> actually, i'm really glad that you brought up "bingo",
> because i've just added a nice new feature to the two
> applets at the bottom of the page: now there are lists
> of EDOs categorized according to some of the important
> unison-vectors ("vanishing commas"). mousing-over the
> numbers in any one column will show you all the temperaments
> (for which i have lattices) which share that unison-vector.
>
>
>
> -monz




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hi Jon, ... Gene's been so busy naming new tunings that he might actually have a "bingo" tuning, but i don't know for sure. but in any case, there's this ... ...
monz
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Jun 29, 2004
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Hi Monz, I'm not here. Well, that's really fun, but I'm sorry to have to report an error. Sweep over the tunings where the kleisma ([-5 6>) vanishes, and ...
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hi Paul, ... re: http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/bingo.htm ... wow, i can't believe it took me over a week to fix that. thanks, Paul. -monz...
monz
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Jul 7, 2004
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... the ... So why is 40 still listed under the kleisma ([-5 6>)?...
wallyesterpaulrus
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... big oops! just fixed it. thanks. -monz...
monz
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Jul 8, 2004
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Monz, Ah, yessssss. It was bingo *cards*, not a bingo tuning. Didn't have any interest for me, just remembered the term. Cheers, Jon...
Jon Szanto
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Jun 29, 2004
9:43 pm

... 169 has a narrow fifth of 695.86, a wide fifth of 710.059, and an intermediate fifth about a cent sharp at 702.959. Speaking of 46-et commas, it shares...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jun 29, 2004
7:32 pm

... comma ... 441/440 ... meantone. Unfortunately, 169 is not very good for approximating JI, so there's no really good "ideal" such as I specified (but it was...
George D. Secor
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Jun 29, 2004
9:03 pm

... setttle ... of ... Agreed entirely. But if an array of possibilities is presented, it's more likely that any given musician will be able to find the one or...
wallyesterpaulrus
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Jul 1, 2004
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... it's ... If, and only if, they are presented in a manner that allows said musician a ghost of a chance to sort through the myriad of tunings. I say this...
Jon Szanto
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Jul 2, 2004
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... I'd suggest people start by asking themselves what they want in a tuning. For instance, how close would you like it to come to JI and in what limit? Are...
Gene Ward Smith
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Gene, ... Beautiful. The only thing that I can add is that this is very much the left brain end of things, and the right brain side needs to play through...
Jon Szanto
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Jul 2, 2004
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... There's always that aspect of music. In theory 21-ET isn't a very good tuning, but it can actually be appropriate for setting a particular mood. I...
Herman Miller
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... 12 and 21 share what Paul is calling "august", a 7-limit version of augmented. 21 has the flat fifth of 7, and excellent 7s, whereas 12 has an excellent...
Gene Ward Smith
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Jul 2, 2004
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... Galticeran is based on a 9-note augmented temperament MOS, in different transpositions (two different ones at the same time, in one part towards the end)....
Herman Miller
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... good ... particular ... found ... of ... 12 ... 36/35 ... to 21 ... brave, ... only ... 385/384 if ... you ... too ... This is known to the world out there...
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... I listed to the first half of this -- stellar! I guess it grows on you. And the Mizarian Porcupine Overture sounds different than I remembered it -- have...
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... i just realized after i wrote that that the tuning list is now exactly 10 years old, +/- 6 months. does anyone know exactly when the tuning list began on...
monz
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... Here's your answer: http://www.mills.edu/LIFE/CCM/ftp/tuning/list/archive/feb941 Looks like Feb 1, 1994....
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... too bad we already missed the chance to celebrate the actual anniversary date. :( -monz...
monz
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... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/53887 ... ***Wow. This was interesting in that one of the very first proposals was the invention of a...
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... proposals ... Not difficult, just unpopular (with personal phone calls and all . . .)...
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... i really love this, Herman!!! i listened to it in 21 also, but like 27 much more. ... can we please have a score of Galticeran27? and a nice long...
monz
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Hey monz, listen to this . . . http://www.io.com/~hmiller/music/ex/hanaki.mid Herman's got a lot of great stuff under his sleeve! BTW, this tuning was panned,...
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... Not 27, but the tuning the above example is in . . . which BTW needs a better English name. I suggest "Mork" ;)...
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... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/53896 ... ***This is interesting... there's almost a kind of gamelan sound to it... Would there be a...
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... Cool, I wasn't hearing that, but thought monz would love this piece. Not sure if he listened to it . . . ... Yes, the 9-note MOS that is representative of...
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... That sounds about right for the 5-limit TOP. I get <1200.000000, 1879.486406, 2819.229610] for the prime approximations. The Scala archive includes a scale...
Herman Miller
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hi Paul, ... yep, i did ... just didn't get around to posting anything. i was so taken by Galticeran27, and this sounds so different. i didn't recognize...
monz
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Jul 9, 2004
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... There was kind of a debate about whether this temperament should be considered a temperament at all, since its approximations are so rough. Dave Keenan...
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