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Jim Plamondon (the guy who is trying to get the "thummer", an
inexpensive 2-d hex controller to market) has put up a youtube video
showing some of the possibilities. The video is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd4h8vmEsQM#SAFsCUTZ470

Here's the website for the thummmer controller (also with videos)

http://www.thummer.com/

Here's a paper out recently in the Computer Music Journal describing
the methods and system of the thummer (co-authored by Plamondon, Andy
Milne, and myself)

http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/paperspdf/
InvariantFingering.pdf

For the more mathematically inclined, here's a more complete version
of the material that will appear shortly in the J. Math and Music:

http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/paperspdf/tuningcontinua.pdf

Your comments, critiques, and/or general thoughts are appreciated!

-- Bill Sethares




Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:42 pm

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Jim Plamondon (the guy who is trying to get the "thummer", an inexpensive 2-d hex controller to market) has put up a youtube video showing some of the...
Bill Sethares
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Wow, I'm out of words ... That's amazing! Do I understand it right that the period is meant to be 2/1 and that what is actually changed there is the size of...
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Apr 18, 2008
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Oops, that was a typo again ... I meant 5/1, of course. Petr...
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... This looks interesting and I'll have to remind myself to come back and look at it when I have some spare time. One comment, glancing over these papers I...
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Apr 19, 2008
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... I see that's also available as a free download from the CMJ website: http://www.mitpressjournals.org/toc/comj/31/4 Thank you for making that the case! That...
Graham Breed
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Apr 19, 2008
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... Thanks! ... 2/1 and that what is actually changed there is the size of the fifth? If so, I wonder what could be the smallest or the largest fifth possible...
Bill Sethares
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Apr 19, 2008
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... The trouble is, most of us *don't* have a strong math background. I've signed on and got my free introductory issue, anyway. There's a Douthett and Krantz...
Graham Breed
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Apr 20, 2008
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... I think there has been a lot of very significant and original mathematical work done on these lists over the past several years. For instance: (1) Monz's...
Bill Sethares
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Apr 21, 2008
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... For starters, I would like to do a review of the best-selling music set theory from the past 30 years. Pick the most cited 10 papers and find for each one...
Carl Lumma
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Apr 21, 2008
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... Musical set theory makes falsifiable predictions?...
Graham Breed
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... If it does not, we could hardly file it under "science", could we? If it does make falsifiable predictions, then a test such as Carl proposes isn't just a...
Cameron Bobro
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Apr 22, 2008
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... I'm not a great fan of musical set theory, but you're making a ridiculous request. Set theory doesn't make claims or predictions about tonal chord...
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... I was using the term "set theory" very broadly there. I just mean any of the rubbish music theory I've seen, from Agmon to Tymoczko. ... Tymoczko makes...
Carl Lumma
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Apr 22, 2008
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Dear Carl, [Please let me know if this post if off-topic in this list. This post is not about tunings as such, but about creating chord progressions in non-12...
Torsten Anders
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Apr 22, 2008
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Hi Torsten, ... I will have to cop out with an excuse: I don't have time at the moment. I do not archive the bad music theory papers I've read over the years....
Carl Lumma
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Apr 22, 2008
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Dear Carl, ... Sorry, I don't fully understand your question. In an ascending progression, the root of the preceding chord is a pitch in the following chord....
Torsten Anders
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Apr 22, 2008
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What i remember which goes quite far back in time and my copy is still unpacked is strong progressions are where more important note/s become less and vice...
Kraig Grady
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Dear Kraig, ... thanks for your mail. Unfortunately, I don't quite understand what you mean by "strong progressions are where more important note/s become less...
Torsten Anders
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I remember reading this by Schoenberg somewhere. i mean we are talking 30 years but it did strike me. where the root becomes the fifth or the fifth the third...
Kraig Grady
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Apr 25, 2008
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... Schoenbergs terminology is definitely the reverse (although he tries to avoid the term weak, uses descending instead). But he remarks in a footnote that...
Torsten Anders
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i am sure translation is part of the problem. Still one could use higher harmonics in this way. introducing them as lower harmonics in preceding chords. ...
Kraig Grady
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... You mean, a preparation of higher harmonics -- much like the preparation of dissonances in common practise music? That's a very nice idea. Not the same as...
Torsten Anders
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Apr 25, 2008
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I was thinking of the higher harmonics as consonances ( which they are more so than not). So the idea is to expand the idea of first third and fifth harmonic...
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Hi Torsten, ... Let's not give Schoenberg too much credit as a music theorist. He was on the other hand one of the best composers ever known (at least until he...
Carl Lumma
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Apr 22, 2008
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... Well, composing is basically what this thread is about, and the situation here is sort of comparable to Schoenberg's: looking for harmony concepts/chord...
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Apr 23, 2008
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Dear Hans Straub, thank you for your links (and for compiling these FAQs in the first place). I will look at them more closely soon. ... That sounds very...
Torsten Anders
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Apr 23, 2008
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... (http://home.datacomm.ch/straub/mamuth/mamufaq.html#Q_cadencialset), ... The basic idea behind it is actually quite simple and primitive. I would say it is...
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Dear Hans Straub, thanks for pointing me to this explanation. I may come back later to you with more questions concerning MaMuTh. As my background is not math,...
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Dear Hans Straub, again, thanks for pointing me to your text. After reading it, my main question is this: how are cadencial sets (the pitches that determine a...
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