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preferred Re: absoute-pitch... @ a'=445Hz? on the violin & piano

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@...> wrote:
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> A=440 is my preference. (I see no reason why the frequencies of all
> of the pitches should be exact integers.) With most well-
> temperaments C will be higher in pitch than in 12-equal with A=440;
> for the rationalized Dent-Young-Neidhardt C will be ~262.5 Hz.
>
at the moment i do prefer
from Werckmeister's septenarian comma versus the SC

81/80 = (99/98)*(441/440)

divided into 3 epimoric subparts:

99/98 = (297/296)*(296/295)*(295/294)

tempering the 5ths G-D-A-E flattend by the corresponding amounts:

G 296/297 D 295/296 A 294/295 E

yielding on the violin empty stings the absolute pitches:

g3: 198 cps = 99*2 := 220*(9/10) a minor-tone below a3=440Hz/2
d4: 296
a4: 442.5 := 885/2
e5: 631.5 := 1323/2

as subset of the tuning procedere in 5ths on my piano:

C: 523Hz (>522 264 132 66 33) 'tenoor-C'
G: 99 (((> 98 49=7*7 overtaken from Werckmeister's "septenarius")))
D: (297>) 296 (>295 (>294 147=49*3)
A: 885 (>882 441=49*9)
E: 1323 = 49*27
B: (49*81 = 3969>) 3968 ... 496...31 through all 7 'B's on the keys
F# 93
C# 279 a semitone above 'middle-C'
G# 837
Eb 2511
Bb (7533>) 7532 3716 1883
F: (5649>) 5648 2824 1412 706 353
C: (1059>) 1058 529 = 23^2 cycle returend back to the above 'tenor-C'

!sparschuhPiano.scl
!
from Andreas Sparschuh's violin strings G 296/297 D 295/296 A 294/295
12
!
558/523 ! C#
598/523 ! D
628/523 ! Eb
1323/1058 ! E = 661.5/523
706/523 ! F
724/523 ! F#
792/523 ! G
837/523 ! G#
885/523 ! A absolute 442.5Hz
1883/1058 ! Bb = 941.5/523
992/523 ! B
2/1
!

have a lot of fun with that
A.S






Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:54 pm

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... extremely ... A=440 is my preference. (I see no reason why the frequencies of all of the pitches should be exact integers.) With most well- temperaments...
George D. Secor
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Apr 24, 2008
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... at the moment i do prefer from Werckmeister's septenarian comma versus the SC 81/80 = (99/98)*(441/440) divided into 3 epimoric subparts: 99/98 =...
Andreas Sparschuh
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Apr 25, 2008
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... all ... A=440; ... C' ... 294/295 ... Either I don't understand this, or something is very wrong with the numbers. The fifths D-A and A-E are tempered >23...
George D. Secor
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Apr 28, 2008
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... 11-limit septenarian comma versus the SC ... 3^4/5/16 = (11*3^2/7^2/2)*(7^2*3^2/11/5/2^3) i do call the ratio: 441/440 ...
Andreas Sparschuh
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May 2, 2008
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... I believe there are still a few mistakes. From the sizes of the fifths you give, I think that perhaps you meant this: 558/529 ! C# 592/529 ! D ...
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... Hi George, ... in deed, even that *.scl-file contained some unfixed bug. ... Many thanks again for that repair. ... when considering more evaluated digits,...
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... Me too. It's a well-temperament only in the less strict sense that there is no harmonic waste. ... And there are fairly simple beating ratios for other...
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... negative ... Well, I think there's more to it than that. The four best major 3rds all occur consecutively on one side of the circle of 5ths, so there is a...
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... Hey, Kalle, you are from Finland? I wanted to learn Finnish about two years ago but I never did it systematically or regularly so it went terribly slowly....
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... Hi Petr, yes I am, originally from western Finland from the region of Ostrobothnia, now living in Helsinki. ... eastern Finland? I don't think this...
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I am curious about the difference between eastern and western finland music! ,',',',Kraig Grady,',',', '''''''North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy...
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... finland music! Hi Kraig, I suggest you read my reply to Petr....
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... IIRC, western Finland was occupied by Swedes for quite some time and folk melodies from western Finland remind me of something between Swedish and Irish...
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... finland music! ... and folk melodies from western Finland remind me of something between Swedish and Irish music. As far as I could find out on the web, ...
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well this makes sense as the so called british are really the result ofa bunch of vikings who kicked their ass and a few of the real britishare in Ireland. I...
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... result ofa bunch of vikings who kicked their ass and a few of the real britishare in Ireland. I have no objection to swedish or noewegian musicthough as...
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... AFAIK, the hardanger fiddle has eight (or nine?) strings, only four of which are meant to be played. The rest are short resonating strings tuned to some...
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