... Harmonic/inharmonic or over/undertone are, once we've lifted off from the field of paper, false dichotomies. Even in monophony, if you move from 3/2 to...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jul 1, 2011 10:26 am
... Can you elaborate on this? What is minorness, what is majorness, etc? Keep in mind that if the major/minor dichotomy is "cultural"; in origin, that the word...
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Keenan Pepper
keenan_pepper
Jul 1, 2011 2:28 pm
... So that's what this temperament is called, "bleu"? I have heard it described before, as a 9&17 temperament that's great for pretty much everything but the...
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Keenan Pepper
keenan_pepper
Jul 1, 2011 2:50 pm
... This temperament is also really easy to understand musically, for non-mathy types. The 11:12:13:14 portion of the harmonic series is supposed to have three...
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Keenan Pepper
keenan_pepper
Jul 1, 2011 2:54 pm
... I forgot to mention: No offence, but adding 81/80 is a terrible idea. It just makes everything way more out of tune. It's obvious that 5 isn't really...
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Afmmjr@...
afmmjr
Jul 1, 2011 2:56 pm
The adding of the culture dimension is really just an extension of the old "nature/nurture" argument, culture being the corollary to nurture. Overtone tuning...
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Keenan Pepper
keenan_pepper
Jul 1, 2011 3:45 pm
... Of course it is. Nobody's denying this. The entire spectrum of intervals is also available right on the slide of my trombone. Every interval you can...
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genewardsmith
Jul 1, 2011 5:16 pm
... Do you have another name?...
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genewardsmith
Jul 1, 2011 5:27 pm
... Not so much. If you use 60edo as your tuning, then the major third you get is 400 cents; this is a value people seem to be willing to live with. If you use...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jul 1, 2011 6:03 pm
... It's usually called "progression." -Mike...
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genewardsmith
Jul 1, 2011 6:39 pm
... Nope. Progression is not a subgroup temperament. As a 13-limit temperament, it tempers out 26/25 and 36/35. What all that means in practice, though, is...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jul 1, 2011 6:57 pm
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 2:38 PM, genewardsmith ... So Blue is just progression with the 5 taken out of it, right? Which is what I was trying to say. -Mike...
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genewardsmith
Jul 1, 2011 7:01 pm
... I might add that there are more ways to add a comma with a 5 in it, some other good possibilites being 45/44 or 50/49....
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jul 1, 2011 7:48 pm
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:01 PM, genewardsmith ... Splitting the octave in half would be really interesting. It would be to progression what hedgehog is to...
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genewardsmith
Jul 1, 2011 7:59 pm
... Right; it's 13-limit progression with a 5-ectomy....
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Michael
djtrancendance
Jul 1, 2011 8:10 pm
   Note: I'm using meantone and 12TET fairly interchange-ably: realizing they are not the same but often SOUND virtually the same to untrained listeners. ...
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genewardsmith
Jul 1, 2011 8:22 pm
... It's not bad, and you can do it in 26, 34, 60 or even 94 edo. For 34, you can use the 13-limit version of the much-discussed 34d val, with the sharp 14\17...
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Tim Reeves
reevest360
Jul 1, 2011 9:40 pm
hi keenan  Thanks for responding to my post,  please read my edit below >>>  ... From: Keenan Pepper <keenanpepper@...> Subject: [tuning] Re:...
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Tim Reeves
reevest360
Jul 1, 2011 9:53 pm
this is "effing" fantastic to be around you guys... thanks tim ... From: lobawad <lobawad@...> Subject: [tuning] Re: Clarification of my comments on Igs'...
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lobawad
Jul 2, 2011 1:29 am
... You've got it backwards- it's not the moderate assumption that in any art form, an organizational and meaningful structure which appears in some cultures...
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lobawad
Jul 2, 2011 1:55 am
Any rational tuning can be described as higher harmonics of a single fundamental. There's even an automagic function in Scala to give you the exact harmonics. ...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jul 2, 2011 5:58 am
... By natural do you mean psychoacoustic? It is clearly "natural" in some sense in that this behavior, given the proper repeated application of a...
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lobawad
Jul 2, 2011 9:31 am
... Mike, remember that I was not talking about my, or your, conceptions of major/minor, "natural" and so on. There's nothing bold or controversial about...
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Graham Breed
x31eq
Jul 2, 2011 10:10 am
... A single dyad is neither otonal nor utonal. Most chords will be simpler one way or the other. Most saturated chords within a given odd limit will be...
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Graham Breed
x31eq
Jul 2, 2011 10:51 am
After years in the making, my PDF on Trojan output from Tripod input is now finished: http://x31eq.com/magic/trip-trojan.pdf It outlines how you can write...
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lobawad
Jul 2, 2011 11:14 am
Have you been following this thread? We're not talking specifically about Partchian "o- and utonalities" but about harmonic/subharmonic over/undertone in...
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Graham Breed
x31eq
Jul 2, 2011 12:15 pm
... You can do that, and it's meaningless. The thread seems to be that you propose something meaningless, and say it's meaningless. Then you say that the...
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Gotta Love Septimal M...
microtonal76
Jul 2, 2011 1:38 pm
... I've played one of my "average joe" friends some Sevish, and he liked that. It was in a variety of different tunings. ... It's funny, I played one piece in...
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sevishmusic
Jul 2, 2011 1:48 pm
Igs' new album is out now. Transcendissonance - A genre-defying odyssey searching out the hidden beauty in the most dissonant tunings known to man. ...
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Michael
djtrancendance
Jul 2, 2011 5:27 pm
Igs (on his album page on bandcamp)>"Though the tunings are a central focus of the album, this is music that can be appreciated by the most casual of...
