... OK. ... OK, so that sounds like you're talking about memory. ... Right, assuming you agree this is a skill that you have to develop and which I doubt the...
... Okay, maybe "memory" but certainly not "memorization". ... Learning to *call* the chord "JI" might have to be developed, because it's an unfamiliar term to...
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:37 PM, cityoftheasleep ... Huh? What's the difference? ... That's not what I'm saying. You said you might be able to recognize a JI...
... Sorry, that should say "MOST" listeners. There may be some exceptions to this rule, but I don't care about them because they're statistically insignificant...
... Short-term vs. long-term. Show me a picture, then show me a series of pictures and ask me to pick out the one that looks most like the original--I'm using...
... Oh, right--so training can accomplish anything, and plenty of people are interested in training themselves to hear 23-limit JI, but most listeners will...
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:01 PM, cityoftheasleep ... This a strawman. My point is that we don't use the terms consistently at all, nor do we consistently agree...
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:03 PM, cityoftheasleep ... No, that's not what I said at all. I said that they -will- never develop it, not that they -can- never...
... Meaning, that they're capable of developing such a skill, but that most won't end up going to, and hence that their subjective representations might break...
For those who prefer their essential microtonal reading and reference in hard copy, the latest (Jan 2010) edition of "Pitch, Pi, and Other Musical Paradoxes -...
For those who prefer their essential microtonal reading and reference in hard copy, the latest (Jan 2012) edition of Pitch, Pi, and Other Musical Paradoxes - A...
... This statement is fascinating to me. It makes sense, but I've never heard any examples of 7- or 11-limit polyphony where both the individual voices and the...
Hello Keenan, I am writing 7 limit contrapuntal music indeed. I'll need a while to achieve this, though. Meanwhile I have some examples to propose you (in some...
... Chris, Yes I read this on Facebook XA and thought it excellent. Despite all that goes on here, and there, I am still interested above all in how common...
... I presumed Keenan did not think any of my music adequately demonstrated my point, but because that was the source of my observations, I'll give this: ...
... My initial tendency is to think of 11-limit harmony as fusing more than 5-limit harmony. However, I can imagine that one way that you might make 7-limit...
... One last interesting thing to note: even if Huron's explanation is correct and mine above is wrong, this whole thing about avoiding 3/2 and 5/4 is funny to...
Something interesting I was thinking about, that I posted onto tuning earlier: ... Another good, related question is: which generic interval class gives me the...
I'm leaving perception (and thus, reality) out of it this time, because that's just too thorny and sensitive to slog through. Instead, I propose this: 1....
... I've often wished for something simpler and more basic: a better way than "show locations" in Scala to find the approximate JI intervals of a scale....
For what it's worth, I think this is basically a formalization of what I do intuitively when I analyze a tuning, and also a generalization of what I've been...
... I really enjoy these, but I don't think any of them actually illustrate the "higher limit harmony allows voices to be more independent" idea under...
... The problem here isn't with the voices being independent (I can always pick out all three of them easily), but with the harmony being intelligible. There...
... For me, what would take Gene's music from "Wow" to "I need to change" is the diatonic property. He tends to use scales that don't have it. -Carl...
... LOL ... Can you give an example of J and T and how your algorithm applies? If J is the 9-odd-limit and T is the diatonic scale, do minor seconds get tuned...
