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104656 Mike Battaglia
battaglia01 Send Email
Jun 1, 2012
7:43 am
Still curious to see if Gene might approve of this idea, which will surely revolutionize our naming system and thus possibly our field, and then potentially...
104657 kraiggrady
banaphshu Send Email
Jun 2, 2012
1:41 pm
Steinhaus showed that with a single generator, on cannot have more than 3 size intervals, most of theserepeat two sets of intervals too. -- /^_,',&#39;,',_...
104658 Petr Parízek
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Jun 2, 2012
5:16 pm
... It's just popped in my mind because I've been experimenting with multiples of 25/24, 128/125, 81/80. If I'm not mistaken, 12l + 7m + 3s then gives 2/1. ...
104659 Keenan Pepper
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Jun 2, 2012
5:57 pm
... Could you elaborate on this? I don't understand what Steinhaus showed. Keenan...
104660 Mike Battaglia
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Jun 2, 2012
6:31 pm
He's saying that a scale formed by a generator which isn't an MOS will have three step sizes at most and never more than that. It's called the Three Gap...
104661 Petr Parízek
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Jun 2, 2012
6:48 pm
... Except that here I wasn't using a single generator, nor was I aiming to get one. Petr...
104662 Brofessor
banaphshu Send Email
Jun 2, 2012
9:42 pm
that is fine. What property are you trying to get, what musical property does it give you you find interesting....
104663 Brofessor
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Jun 3, 2012
12:18 am
http://anaphoria.com/MOSSteinhaus.pdf...
104664 Brofessor
banaphshu Send Email
Jun 3, 2012
12:21 am
It seems there would be areas of Chalmers' Tritriadic scales that would fit in this area too....
104665 Chris Vaisvil
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Jun 3, 2012
1:35 pm
The World Harmony Project by Denny Genovese et. al. is up http://www.worldharmonyproject.com/index.htm Just the music ...
104666 genewardsmith Send Email Jun 3, 2012
8:36 pm
... Steinhaus conjectured the Three Distances Theorem: http://demonstrations.wolfram.com/ThreeDistanceTheorem/...
104667 Carl Lumma
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Jun 3, 2012
8:54 pm
Thanks (Mike) for bringing this up. Back in December I suggested something called kernelnaming might solve these problems. Graham sent me a dump of his...
104668 Brofessor
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Jun 3, 2012
9:12 pm
Basically one only has to find the set of any three numbers that add up to the number of tones one wants in the scale. for instance if we want 9 tones we have...
104669 Brofessor
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Jun 3, 2012
9:25 pm
there is no reason why one could not have a 22 tone scale with any of the permutations of 3 7 12 for L m S...
104670 Carl Lumma
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Jun 3, 2012
10:36 pm
... This includes a lot of 'dupes&#39; like (-4 1 1) & (4 -1 -1). These get the same under my proposal http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/102083 But...
104671 Carl Lumma
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Jun 3, 2012
11:01 pm
Last post, continued from http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tuning/message/104670?var=0 So, Hermite bases may be better for this than LLL bases. ... These names...
104672 Carl Lumma
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Jun 3, 2012
11:11 pm
... Sorry, I attached my replies to a weird spot in this thread. I generally agree that prime limits should be privileged subgroups and that names should show...
104673 Carl Lumma
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Jun 3, 2012
11:53 pm
Mainly I think the names coming out of my spreadsheet are too consonanty. I did a quick scan of the trivial names and didn't see too many things I couldn't...
104674 Carl Lumma
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Jun 4, 2012
12:03 am
... Should read, "should NOT be privileged". -C....
104675 Mike Battaglia
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Jun 4, 2012
12:18 am
... Interesting! I think it's a neat idea, although I admit it I'd like it better if the syllables were a bit smoother. Then again, I'm all for changing...
104676 Mike Battaglia
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Jun 4, 2012
12:20 am
... What do you mean by this? Finding a canonical basis for the null space of the transformation that's better than LLL and Hermite form? -Mike...
104677 Carl Lumma
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Jun 4, 2012
12:52 am
... The Hermite sequence always works, so if we agree on that then we're done. But the original definition uses builds the sequence iteratively with TM...
104678 genewardsmith Send Email Jun 4, 2012
2:08 am
... Long ago done and documented: http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Normal+lists#x-Normal interval lists...
104679 Mike Battaglia
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Jun 4, 2012
2:29 am
... Hurrah. So then, keeping in mind with that, then one common objection is that sometimes people don't want temperaments to share names, like 2.3.5.7...
104680 Carl Lumma
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Jun 4, 2012
3:08 am
... Ah good. I wonder if that's what Graham gave me then. -Carl...
104681 Mike Battaglia
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Jun 4, 2012
3:15 am
... I'm not sure if this is what you want; it's Hermite form with the columns reversed. For instance, this maps {81/80, 126/125} to {81/80, 59049/57344}. It's...
104682 Carl Lumma
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Jun 4, 2012
3:19 am
... Depends what we mean by extension. I think people are using "2.3.5 meantone" and "2.3.5.7 meantone" to refer to different rank 2 temperaments. In my...
104683 Mike Battaglia
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Jun 4, 2012
3:35 am
... Yeah, you're talking about extensions that preserve codimension and alter rank; I was talking about extensions that preserve rank and alter codimension....
104684 Carl Lumma
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Jun 4, 2012
6:30 am
... There seems to be a tradeoff between the max complexity of the commas in the sequences and having related temperaments share the beginnings of their...
104685 Carl Lumma
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Jun 4, 2012
6:38 am
... That's basically what's happening now. It does have some things going for it. What on Graham's list are you objecting to? Just the clever alternate...
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