Hello everyone! I just got introduced to this group by Dante firstly, can I point out that there is a really friendly IRC channel #music-theory on...
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genewardsmith
Jan 1, 2011 7:44 pm
... Fair enough, I can use just intonation. but now ... This is the problem of the comma pump. The best-known example is from the diatonic scale: if you go...
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Carl Lumma
clumma
Jan 1, 2011 10:44 pm
Howdy folks, My best posts from last month... Triadic entropy reproduces TOP tunings when linearly constrained ...
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cityoftheasleep
Jan 1, 2011 10:46 pm
... There is no "fundamental mathematical nature of music". Or rather, there is no "one" fundamental mathematical nature of music, but a plethora of...
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Michael
djtrancendance
Jan 2, 2011 12:46 am
Igs>"Music, as a physical and/or psychological phenomenon, deals only with probabilities. The best that can be said of any exact frequency relationship is that...
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genewardsmith
Jan 2, 2011 1:10 am
... I hope you aren't confusing someone who is trying to learn the basics with this stuff. No one else seems to think 14/9 sounds like a fifth, and you...
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Michael
djtrancendance
Jan 2, 2011 2:50 am
Gene>"Since it is acting like a sort of sixth in these triads, why persist in calling it a fifth?" Ok so, technically (if you read my last message) I agree...
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Mario Pizarro
piaguiscale
Jan 2, 2011 3:15 am
To the tuning list, Despite I have a lot of musical subjects to learn from many of you let me inform you that from some time ago I am playing with three sets...
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Pi
ngawalaruna
Jan 2, 2011 5:07 am
... great, a hands-on example! this raises several questions for me. I can see that this is a problem for finite key (discrete pitch? there is a better name...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jan 2, 2011 6:31 am
Welcome to the tuning list! ... That would be something more akin to what we call "Adaptive JI" - where the chords are just, but the root movements are...
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Pi
ngawalaruna
Jan 2, 2011 8:26 am
It looks like I have finally found the right place to discuss this project: www.toneme.org Please ignore pretty much all of the text. when I wrote it I had a...
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manuphonic
Jan 2, 2011 5:35 pm
In Common Era years, between 1600 & 1707, somebody like Abraham Verheyen, Joseph Sauveur, Gottfried Keller or one of their colleagues, tweaking what we now...
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genewardsmith
Jan 2, 2011 6:51 pm
This was cross-posted, so I am reposting my reply here where the topic belongs. I mention that so far as I know the only person doing equal beating tetrads was...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jan 2, 2011 7:54 pm
Hi all, I was checking out the new apotome family page on the xenharmonic wiki, and I added a lot of stuff to it. The page is here: ...
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Carl Lumma
clumma
Jan 2, 2011 9:44 pm
... What makes you say so? ... I have evidence to the contrary. -Carl...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jan 2, 2011 9:52 pm
Sorry Jacques, I missed this in the holiday shuffle. Back to it now: ... No, I do mean for its VF placement. Although it is possible to hear 9/7 generate a VF...
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manuphonic
Jan 2, 2011 10:50 pm
After correcting for quickly detected errors, ambiguities & omissions in the original version of this posting, here is a text closer to what I should have said...
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manuphonic
Jan 2, 2011 11:30 pm
Hi Gene. Thanks for looking into this. If you or Ervin Wilson already pioneered this territory, it should be scenic enough for me! My original posting fumbled...
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manuphonic
Jan 2, 2011 11:34 pm
Hi Carl. If a thing does sound impressive to me, I have to believe it can. Not that it must sound impressive to all people everywhere, but that it can sound...
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genewardsmith
Jan 3, 2011 2:36 am
... You get the honor of naming whitewood, but if no one comes up with a better name in a few days, "other whitewood" still has to go. What about redwood?...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jan 3, 2011 2:47 am
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 9:36 PM, genewardsmith ... I noticed that Graham's temperament finder referred to the 7-limit blackwood where 64/63 vanishes as...
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Carl Lumma
clumma
Jan 3, 2011 2:50 am
... Hi Mark, There have been extensive investigations here on equal- and proportional-beating triads in the past (though not tetrads). I've synthesized many...
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genewardsmith
Jan 3, 2011 3:12 am
... Some of the usual suspects are tempered out by 35et: 126/125, 3125/3072, 1728/1715 and 2401/2400. But if you don't like 525/512, what about 405/392?...
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genewardsmith
Jan 3, 2011 3:25 am
... You might want to look again using synth tuning with equal beating tetrads. My impression, not based on any scientific tests, is that the effect is more...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jan 3, 2011 3:37 am
... It might be that we're going about equal beating the wrong way. It's my gut feeling that the concept of equal beating is related to the concept of...
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genewardsmith
Jan 3, 2011 6:20 am
... I think you've got the field to yourself. Your scales are equal temperaments tweaked so as to give equal or proportional beating in various places. What I...
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Carl Lumma
clumma
Jan 3, 2011 6:21 am
... Can you give some tetrads to try? ... It may be, but there's no way to reproduce that effect with non-JI intervals. -Carl...
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Mike Battaglia
battaglia01
Jan 3, 2011 7:04 am
... Equal beating could be way to reproduce that effect with non-JI intervals. Or rather, if there were a "beating space," like we have a tuning space, then...
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genewardsmith
Jan 3, 2011 7:45 am
... If "e" is a small quantity, either positive or negative, then if we put 3+e, 5+e, 7+e into close root position, we get 5/4+e/4, 3/2+e/2, 7/4+e/4. If we...
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Carl Lumma
clumma
Jan 3, 2011 8:44 am
... Nope. ... ? ... It's that they're fundamentally different phenomena. -Carl...
