I must respectully disagree. The intent and content of the anaphora prayers is that they are the prayers of the people, and not of priest alone. I believe that...
... JRS: The Orthodox Liturgy has developed over many centuries: it was not something written once and for all, like the Scriptures, and then "distorted". That...
Dear All, You can hear it sung on the third CD album from Novokuznetsk, track 4. You can download a score at http://www.webfile.ru/1218522 until 16 December, ...
Dear all, If anyone happens to have any materials for the Memorial Saturdays - Serbian style, preferably in English, please be kind to email me. Also, if you...
I concur with Fr. Alexey. Furthermore, I have a real problem with what the people actually hear, "...the Trinity, one in essence and undivided, singing,...
I am intrigued by this discussion, and by a question that I have not heard anyone address thus far: When different people disagree about this, who has the...
First, my apologies for the belated appearance of Choir Cues – ISP problems began yesterday, and continued up to the present moment. Second, please remember...
... JRS: If such a change were officially made (and I doubt it ever has been made), then the decision would have come from a Synod or Church Sobor. But the...
But Father, most prayer books which I have seen omit the Eucharistic prayers. I always follow the prayers myself because they are so beatiful and inspiring...
On the subject of not saying the prayers of the eucharistic canon, I distinctly remember "justification" for going silent because some impious peson can hear...
... not something ... Of course, I totally agree - it has developed over time from variable and spontaneous prayers that were not even recorded at first, it...
... molimtisia, ... Not exactly, Father. In the original Greek & earlier Slavonic, this is the MAIN clause that follows the two subordinate participial ...
... JRS: I'm afraid I can't see where you get this "correction". The Greek reads: "Kai kataxioson imas, Despota, meta parrisias, akatakritos, tolman ...
... akatakritos, tolman ... But we have here, and in Slavonic, what is called "accusativus duplex"? With the meaning of the phrase exactly as it is rendered in...
You are correct, of course, but it is pretty clear that both the mystical and audible verses form one continious system, one thing flows into another, and...
... JRS: Nevertheless, the chants that cover the prayers of the Eucharistic Canon were still added later, and for that purpose. For example, "Dostoino est" and...
Interestingly enough, with regard to the "O Lord who at the third hour..." said at either Liturgy, the Rudder states "For some latter persons have added these...
In the Romanian Ieratikon, the 3rd Hour Tropario is printed before "we further bring Thee this rational worship..." in the Liturgy of St. John, and before "For...
For the real role of the exclamation in the Honour of Thetokos (= the beging exclamation of the diptychs of the dead) and of the Axion, see Robert F. Taft - A...
... JRS: That is to say: the Tropar of the 3rd Hour with its verses has been moved up, so that it comes immediately after "Thine Own of Thine Own..." as the...
... Fatrher, if you reread that raticle I posted to the list you will find that the innovation of reading the Eucharistic Canon silently began in the Sixth...
... No weakness at all... it's not the slowness of the chant, it's drawn out nature, that is the essence of it but rather the content. It can be done more...
Reader David-Constantine wrote, in part, ... the innovation of reading the Eucharistic Canon silently began in the Sixth Century, ... OK, St. John Chrysostom's...
Amen, Brother! I love to see defenders of Orthodoxy reluctantly flexing their muscles...better than watching a linebacker blitzing a bewildered QB Reader...
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... Reciting the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed is another innovation. It certainly wasn't done before the Creed was defined at the second Ecumenical Council....
This is where it is done in many OCA parishes. I wonder if when it was inserted into a manuscript, it ended up accidentally a line later than it should had...
... Again, I appreciate the variety of comments and practices we have in Orthodoxy. With regards to rubrics mentioned above, I suggest our priests have this...
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