Dear James and Theophan, This is certainly an interesting subject, if one starts digging under the surface of our modern practice of daily prayers for laity....
On 31 Mar 07, Fr. John Whiteford wrote: One other significant change (not mentioned by Fr. John below) is that Matins should begin with the full "regular"...
Many thanks, Nikita, for the fascinating information about the development of these prayer books! I'm curious about the "extra" prayer; didn't I read somewhere...
... development ... there are ... Dear Theophan, I'm not certain where, but somewhere I read that about half of these "extra" prayers for the morning and...
Hi everybody. On the end of the matins on the Great Saturday, the prokimenon tone 4 ends with following words (in the Triodion): "... izbavi nac imene radi...
Michael, it makes the same sort of difference as would English "for thy Name's sake" vs "for the sake of thy Name." Sometimes one encounters small variants of...
A very useful survey! Now, speaking of hours of study trying to figure out what the books expect people to do, if anyone wants hours of frustration (also known...
Stephen wrote, in part, ... just try to find an exact and unambiguous statement of just when to pray the Prayer of St Ephraim... He was referring to when...
... right time to insert this prayer into the regular morning and evening prayers in the Jordanville Prayer Book, and while I'm asking, when might one insert...
Stephen, according to the Supplement to the Triodion, p 13, Vespers on Tuesday evening in Cheese week is the first time. Rdr. James Olympia, WA From:...
Thank you Fr. John, Reader Daniel, etc. I have taken your wonderful work, made revisions (mainly using different translations), and I am now printing several...
Just recently discovered this page: http://www.dioceseofalaska.org/html/liturgical_resources.html It has a very detailed liturgical calendar, and follows the...
Dear Anna, When you refer to the Old Believers' Prayerbook, do you mean the one from Erie, Penn or anotherone? Are you an old believer yourself? I had thougth...
Anna wrote, in part, The lack of provision for these is one reason I always go back to my Old Believer's prayer book. ... the most likely place might be page...
Dear Ustavniki, Does anyone have the music for Come Let Us Bless Joseph... (Dismissal hymn for Great Friday Vespers) in English, or could direct me to it? I...
In the Greek tradition, the Prayer of St. Ephraim is read at the end of morning prayers and closed with, "Through the prayers of our holy fathers..." The...
The hymn "Come let us bless Joseph..." is appointed to be sung at the conclusion of Matins of Great Saturday during the veneration of the Plaschanitsa. I...
This is precisely the practice used according to the pre-Nikonian service books. When we have non-Old Ritualists come to Vespers on Great Friday, they are...
Fr. Steven Simon
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Apr 3, 2007 6:17 pm
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Dear Nikita, You indicate below that the usual morning and evening prayers for Old Believers are Compline and Midnight Office respectively. Your explanation...
Dear Theopan, I waid into this discussion with some hesistation in that I do not know much about the subject. One thing I do know is that sometimes it pays to...
Dear Ustavniki, I have been wondering about a certain question for many years. The funny thing is that I always keep forgetting to ask someone because the only...
Alex <aprmih@...> wrote: I noticed that in the service for the Annunciation (in the "Velikiy Sbornik" we use in ROCOR) certain troparia in the canon...
There is a Russian custom, loved by many and reviled by many to treat the refrains of the Annunciation canon differently than any other. This canon is a...
... Dear Kenneth, If we prayer Compline and Midnight Office in Church, there really isn't any point in repeating these prayers at home. Since we generally ...
The Orthodox Church invented the countdown; here we see that the Church was ahead of the world with "he said, she said" too! Stephen ... treat the ... Gabriel....
Right you are, James! I had forgotten that the prayer appears on Wednesday and Friday of Cheesefare Week. Well, this sort of thing is why I have been looking...
... No, I'm not an Old Believer, although I've come to cherish the prayer book, and I can't explain why...I guess it just seems more complete than the...
Is the church still in black for The Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts on Holy Wednesday, or would it be changed to the purple of Holy Thursday already at...
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Apr 4, 2007 4:55 pm
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In my experience, it's in black for the Presanctified Liturgy. Peter cktwms@... Sent by: ustav@yahoogroups To ...
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