John,
I would very much like to receive this font!
Thank you,
unworthy Deacon Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: John Johnson <icjohnson@...>
To: ustav@egroups.com <ustav@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 1999 8:54 PM
Subject: [ustav] Re: Truetype Fonts


>We use a TrueType font called Russian Kiev for the headings of the
>English-version St. John parish bulletin; I'd be happy to send you a copy
>(just need to check and make sure it's in the public domain).
>
>In Christ,
>John
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Reader Alban Mosher [mailto:AlbanCSA@...]
>Sent: Thursday, January 28, 1999 20:48
>To: ustav@egroups.com
>Subject: [ustav] Truetype Fonts
>
>Dear List members;
>
>Does anyone know of any place on the internet that has downloadable English
>Truetype for Windows fonts that are stylized to look like either Byzantine
>or Church Slavonic lettering? Also are there any places on the internet
>where I can download a Church Slavonic font in Truetype font for Windows?
>
>Your unworthy servant in Christ,
>Reader Alban Mosher
>St. Michael the Archangel Orthodox Church
>Orthodox Church in America
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It's gonna be a LOOOOOOOG week, so here's something that cheered me up!

			 Cows and Milk

PURE SOCIALISM: You have 2 cows. The govt. takes them and puts them in a barn
with everyone elses cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The govt
gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have 2 cows. The govt takes the cows and puts them
in a barn with everyone elses cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers.
You have to take care of the chickens the govt took from the chicken farmers.
The govt gives you as much milk and as many eggs as the govt says that you
need.

FASCISM: You have 2 cows. The govt takes both, hires you to take care of them,
and sells you the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have 2 cows. You have to take care of them, but the
govt keeps all the milk.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have 2 cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have 2 cows. Your neighbors pick someone to
tell you who gets the milk.

AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: The govt promises to give you 2 cows if you vote for it.
After the election, the President is impeached for speculating in cow futures.
The press dubs the affair "Cowgate."

FEMINISM: You have 2 cows. They get married and adopt a veal calf.

BRITISH DEMOCRACY: You have 2 cows. You feed them sheep brains and they go
mad. The govt doesn't do anything.

BUREAUCRACY: You have 2 cows. At first the govt regulates what you can feed
them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. After that
it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain.
Then it requires you to fill out forms acounting for the missing cow.

ENVIRONMENTALISM: You have 2 cows. The Govt bans you from milking or killing
them.

HONG KONG CAPITALISM: You have 2 cows. You sell 3 of them to your publily held
company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank,
then execute a debt/equity swap with associated general offer so that you can
get all 4 cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping 5 cows.
The milk rights of 6 cows are transfered via Panamanian intermediary to a
Cayman Island company secretly owned by the majority stock holder, who sells
the rights to all 7 cows milk back to the listed company. The annual report
says the company owns 8 cows, with an option on one more. Meanwhile you kill
the 2 cows because the fung shiu is bad.

SURREALISM: You have 2 Giraffes. Because you can't milk them, the govt
requires that you walk them through the community to trim the trees.

MILITARIANISM: You have 2 cows. The Govt takes both and drafts you.

DICTATORSHIP: You have 2 cows. The govt takes both and shoots you.

CAPITALISM: You have 2 cows. You sell 1 and buy a Bull.



In Christ,
Elizabeth Riggs, a sinner, and Perennial Student
(forgive me my typos, forgive me if I offend)
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Greetings in Christ to all,

Just sharing with you an error that I discovered in the English language
Apostol published by St Tikhon's.  I was serving at a wedding recently
and used it for the Apostol reading, rather than the Trebnik.
Regrettably, I didn't check over the reading first, & so finished the
reading where it said "End for Marriage" in the Apostol - at the same
point that the reading for Wednesday of the 18th week ends, halfway
through Ephesians 5:33.  As a result, I omitted the final exhortation:
"...and let the wife see that she respects her husband".  So, the
reading should go all the way to the end of 5:33. Interestingly, the
Slavonic Apostol doesn't have indicators for the reading at a wedding.
Hope this is of some help to others.

In Christ,

Deacon James Carles

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Amy:  Here's the order...

*  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
*  Deacon or Priest:  Let us pray to the Lord.
*  Choir:  Lord have mercy.
*  Priest:  Prayer for the blessing of the loaves, wheat, wine, and oil.
*  Choir:  "Amen.  Blessed be the name..." 3X; Psalm 33 (up to "...but they
that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing.")
*  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
*  Choir:   "Amen"
*  Reader:  Six Psalms

The question of when the choir should venerate the icon of the feast and get
anointed is an interesting one.  The most common practice in my experience
is for the choir to go up either all at once, or in shifts while the canon
is being read (that is, while the troparia that follow the irmos are being
read by the reader).  In certain parishes, particularly those where the
choir is up in a loft, the priest will come out at the end of Vigil with the
oil and anoint the singers at the conclusion of the service.  At the ROCOR
cathedral in San Francisco, for example, they leave the Gospel Book in the
center of the church, with the Royal Doors open until the 1st hour, when the
choir comes down to venerate it and receive a blessing.  Perhaps this is the
approach you should adopt, given that you're virtually alone on kliros, and
pausing the service isn't advisable.

All of this is not the way it's outlined in the Typicon, which prescribes
for the bread and wine to be distributed to the congregation while they
listen to the appointed readings that immediately precede the Six Psalms
(these readings are done extremely rarely).  The anointing with oil takes
place after the end of Matins, before the reading of the 1st Hour.

Incidentally, this is the same order as at Vigils on Sundays, where there is
also the veneration of the Gospel book which takes place after the reading
of the Gospel at matins while Ps. 50 is being read (clearly, not a lot of
time here).

Finally, as regards your question concerning the "Glory" stichera at
aposticha and praises, these stichera can be found in the Lenten Triodion
under Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, and Matins of Monday of Cheesefare Week --
the day in the Lenten Triodion upon which the Meeting falls this year.  For
the stichera at Vespers, use the one that is appointed to be sung at
Aposticha of Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, that is Vespers of Sunday evening.
  It's the first stichera in Tone 8 (I'm sorry, I don't have a translation
handy).  For Praises at Matins, use the 1st stichera that you find -- Tone 3
  -- at the Matins Aposticha of Monday of Cheesfare Week.

Hope this makes sense.

Peter Fekula
  ----------
From: ustav
To: ustav list
Subject: [ustav] QUESTION ON "MEETING OF OUR LORD
Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 11:12AM

From:  Amy Belkoff at All Saints in Eastpointe Michigan

I'm not very experienced at Vigils yet, so I'm wondering if someone could
clarify this for me.  Is this the proper way to make the transition from
Vespers to Matins for "Meeting of Our Lord"?

*  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
*  Priest:  Blessing of the wheat, wine, and oil.
*  Choir:  "Blessed be the name..."  3X
*  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
*  Choir:   "Amen"
*  Reader:  Six Psalms

Does Psalm 33 get stuck in there anywhere?  Also, when is the best time for
the choir (all 3 of us) to go to the center of the church to get anointed?
  We've been doing it sometime during the Canons, but that seems to be
inconvenient since I'm usually busy singing the Irmoi.

One more question!  At the aposticha, at glory, the Liturgial Calendar says
to use " Triod idiomelon from Vespers Apost. "  And at the Praises, at glory
to use " Triod idiomelon from Matins Apost. "   Where do I find these
things?

Thanks to all who respond!

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Dearest friends,
I apologize for not having written in a while. I was in Europe this last month.
My matushka and I together with our children moved to the US, and now live in
the DC Metropolitan area.
I would like to start writing about the question of the Nativity in a few days,
so please, all who are interested, be looking for Part 1.
You will all forgive me if I use this group to ask for personal help. I would
like to ask anyone who is willing to help us in this new life in the US, if you
could kindly suggest a way to find some funds in order for us to buy a used car.
Perhaps there are some people who are willing to give their car away, or some
that are willing to help us buy one. If you can help, I would greatly appreciate
it. Please email me directly. I apologize again, and I look forward to writing
about the "question of the Nativity".
Thank you very much.
In the love of Christ,
deacon Vsevolod Borzakovsky

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Dear Ustavers,

For the Meeting of the Lord, the Deacon, at the Little Entrance, is given an
"entrance verse" which follows the "Wisdom! Aright!" What then happens to "Come
let us worship..." since we sing the typical psalms for this Feast? Is it
omitted, and the Tropar for the Feast simply replaces it?

Protopriest Basil



>
>
> *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> *  Deacon or Priest:  Let us pray to the Lord.
> *  Choir:  Lord have mercy.
> *  Priest:  Prayer for the blessing of the loaves, wheat, wine, and oil.
> *  Choir:  "Amen.  Blessed be the name..." 3X; Psalm 33 (up to "...but they
> that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing.")
> *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> *  Choir:   "Amen"
> *  Reader:  Six Psalms
>
> The question of when the choir should venerate the icon of the feast and get
> anointed is an interesting one.  The most common practice in my experience
> is for the choir to go up either all at once, or in shifts while the canon
> is being read (that is, while the troparia that follow the irmos are being
> read by the reader).  In certain parishes, particularly those where the
> choir is up in a loft, the priest will come out at the end of Vigil with the
> oil and anoint the singers at the conclusion of the service.  At the ROCOR
> cathedral in San Francisco, for example, they leave the Gospel Book in the
> center of the church, with the Royal Doors open until the 1st hour, when the
> choir comes down to venerate it and receive a blessing.  Perhaps this is the
> approach you should adopt, given that you're virtually alone on kliros, and
> pausing the service isn't advisable.
>
> All of this is not the way it's outlined in the Typicon, which prescribes
> for the bread and wine to be distributed to the congregation while they
> listen to the appointed readings that immediately precede the Six Psalms
> (these readings are done extremely rarely).  The anointing with oil takes
> place after the end of Matins, before the reading of the 1st Hour.
>
> Incidentally, this is the same order as at Vigils on Sundays, where there is
> also the veneration of the Gospel book which takes place after the reading
> of the Gospel at matins while Ps. 50 is being read (clearly, not a lot of
> time here).
>
> Finally, as regards your question concerning the "Glory" stichera at
> aposticha and praises, these stichera can be found in the Lenten Triodion
> under Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, and Matins of Monday of Cheesefare Week --
> the day in the Lenten Triodion upon which the Meeting falls this year.  For
> the stichera at Vespers, use the one that is appointed to be sung at
> Aposticha of Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, that is Vespers of Sunday evening.
>  It's the first stichera in Tone 8 (I'm sorry, I don't have a translation
> handy).  For Praises at Matins, use the 1st stichera that you find -- Tone 3
>  -- at the Matins Aposticha of Monday of Cheesfare Week.
>
> Hope this makes sense.
>
> Peter Fekula
>  ----------
> From: ustav
> To: ustav list
> Subject: [ustav] QUESTION ON "MEETING OF OUR LORD
> Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 11:12AM
>
> From:  Amy Belkoff at All Saints in Eastpointe Michigan
>
> I'm not very experienced at Vigils yet, so I'm wondering if someone could
> clarify this for me.  Is this the proper way to make the transition from
> Vespers to Matins for "Meeting of Our Lord"?
>
> *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> *  Priest:  Blessing of the wheat, wine, and oil.
> *  Choir:  "Blessed be the name..."  3X
> *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> *  Choir:   "Amen"
> *  Reader:  Six Psalms
>
> Does Psalm 33 get stuck in there anywhere?  Also, when is the best time for
> the choir (all 3 of us) to go to the center of the church to get anointed?
>  We've been doing it sometime during the Canons, but that seems to be
> inconvenient since I'm usually busy singing the Irmoi.
>
> One more question!  At the aposticha, at glory, the Liturgial Calendar says
> to use " Triod idiomelon from Vespers Apost. "  And at the Praises, at glory
> to use " Triod idiomelon from Matins Apost. "   Where do I find these
> things?
>
> Thanks to all who respond!
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Dear Fr. Basil,
many consider this feast to be a Feast of the Theotokos, in certaing chuerches
they celebrate in blue vestments. I think that since the fest antiphons are not
sung, "O come let us worship " must be sung, and end with the words "by the
prayers of the Theotokos....." Then you continue as usual with the troparion and
kondakion. I hope it was helpful.
In Christ, I ask for your prayers.
deacon Vsevolod
<36b74eb4.4214ae5-@...> wrote:
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> Dear Ustavers,
>
> For the Meeting of the Lord, the Deacon, at the Little Entrance, is given an
> "entrance verse" which follows the "Wisdom! Aright!" What then happens to
"Come
> let us worship..." since we sing the typical psalms for this Feast? Is it
> omitted, and the Tropar for the Feast simply replaces it?
>
> Protopriest Basil
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> > *  Deacon or Priest:  Let us pray to the Lord.
> > *  Choir:  Lord have mercy.
> > *  Priest:  Prayer for the blessing of the loaves, wheat, wine, and oil.
> > *  Choir:  "Amen.  Blessed be the name..." 3X; Psalm 33 (up to "...but they
> > that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing.")
> > *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> > *  Choir:   "Amen"
> > *  Reader:  Six Psalms
> >
> > The question of when the choir should venerate the icon of the feast and get
> > anointed is an interesting one.  The most common practice in my experience
> > is for the choir to go up either all at once, or in shifts while the canon
> > is being read (that is, while the troparia that follow the irmos are being
> > read by the reader).  In certain parishes, particularly those where the
> > choir is up in a loft, the priest will come out at the end of Vigil with the
> > oil and anoint the singers at the conclusion of the service.  At the ROCOR
> > cathedral in San Francisco, for example, they leave the Gospel Book in the
> > center of the church, with the Royal Doors open until the 1st hour, when the
> > choir comes down to venerate it and receive a blessing.  Perhaps this is the
> > approach you should adopt, given that you're virtually alone on kliros, and
> > pausing the service isn't advisable.
> >
> > All of this is not the way it's outlined in the Typicon, which prescribes
> > for the bread and wine to be distributed to the congregation while they
> > listen to the appointed readings that immediately precede the Six Psalms
> > (these readings are done extremely rarely).  The anointing with oil takes
> > place after the end of Matins, before the reading of the 1st Hour.
> >
> > Incidentally, this is the same order as at Vigils on Sundays, where there is
> > also the veneration of the Gospel book which takes place after the reading
> > of the Gospel at matins while Ps. 50 is being read (clearly, not a lot of
> > time here).
> >
> > Finally, as regards your question concerning the "Glory" stichera at
> > aposticha and praises, these stichera can be found in the Lenten Triodion
> > under Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, and Matins of Monday of Cheesefare Week --
> > the day in the Lenten Triodion upon which the Meeting falls this year.  For
> > the stichera at Vespers, use the one that is appointed to be sung at
> > Aposticha of Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, that is Vespers of Sunday evening.
> >  It's the first stichera in Tone 8 (I'm sorry, I don't have a translation
> > handy).  For Praises at Matins, use the 1st stichera that you find -- Tone 3
> >  -- at the Matins Aposticha of Monday of Cheesfare Week.
> >
> > Hope this makes sense.
> >
> > Peter Fekula
> >  ----------
> > From: ustav
> > To: ustav list
> > Subject: [ustav] QUESTION ON "MEETING OF OUR LORD
> > Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 11:12AM
> >
> > From:  Amy Belkoff at All Saints in Eastpointe Michigan
> >
> > I'm not very experienced at Vigils yet, so I'm wondering if someone could
> > clarify this for me.  Is this the proper way to make the transition from
> > Vespers to Matins for "Meeting of Our Lord"?
> >
> > *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> > *  Priest:  Blessing of the wheat, wine, and oil.
> > *  Choir:  "Blessed be the name..."  3X
> > *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> > *  Choir:   "Amen"
> > *  Reader:  Six Psalms
> >
> > Does Psalm 33 get stuck in there anywhere?  Also, when is the best time for
> > the choir (all 3 of us) to go to the center of the church to get anointed?
> >  We've been doing it sometime during the Canons, but that seems to be
> > inconvenient since I'm usually busy singing the Irmoi.
> >
> > One more question!  At the aposticha, at glory, the Liturgial Calendar says
> > to use " Triod idiomelon from Vespers Apost. "  And at the Praises, at glory
> > to use " Triod idiomelon from Matins Apost. "   Where do I find these
> > things?
> >
> > Thanks to all who respond!
> >
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As was described in an issue of the Russian-language PRAVOSLAVNAYA RUS',
there is another practice here, one that was followed by St. John of
Shanghai/San Francisco, and that is to sing the full festival antiphons of
the Meeting of the Lord (as in the Greek books). These were printed in
Church Slavonic at the time, although they can also be reconstructed
easily enough, being verses from Psalms.
	 Despite the note concerning this practice in the English "Festal
Menaion", the use of the antiphons is older than that of the
Typica-Psalms.
	 If there is a verse pronounced at the Entrance, in the Russian
Church we do not sing "O come let us worship...", since the verse is seen
as replacing this text.

On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Fr. Basil Rhodes & Mat. Joan Rhodes wrote:

> Dear Ustavers,
>
> For the Meeting of the Lord, the Deacon, at the Little Entrance, is given an
> "entrance verse" which follows the "Wisdom! Aright!" What then happens to
"Come
> let us worship..." since we sing the typical psalms for this Feast? Is it
> omitted, and the Tropar for the Feast simply replaces it?
>
> Protopriest Basil
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> > *  Deacon or Priest:  Let us pray to the Lord.
> > *  Choir:  Lord have mercy.
> > *  Priest:  Prayer for the blessing of the loaves, wheat, wine, and oil.
> > *  Choir:  "Amen.  Blessed be the name..." 3X; Psalm 33 (up to "...but they
> > that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing.")
> > *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> > *  Choir:   "Amen"
> > *  Reader:  Six Psalms
> >
> > The question of when the choir should venerate the icon of the feast and get
> > anointed is an interesting one.  The most common practice in my experience
> > is for the choir to go up either all at once, or in shifts while the canon
> > is being read (that is, while the troparia that follow the irmos are being
> > read by the reader).  In certain parishes, particularly those where the
> > choir is up in a loft, the priest will come out at the end of Vigil with the
> > oil and anoint the singers at the conclusion of the service.  At the ROCOR
> > cathedral in San Francisco, for example, they leave the Gospel Book in the
> > center of the church, with the Royal Doors open until the 1st hour, when the
> > choir comes down to venerate it and receive a blessing.  Perhaps this is the
> > approach you should adopt, given that you're virtually alone on kliros, and
> > pausing the service isn't advisable.
> >
> > All of this is not the way it's outlined in the Typicon, which prescribes
> > for the bread and wine to be distributed to the congregation while they
> > listen to the appointed readings that immediately precede the Six Psalms
> > (these readings are done extremely rarely).  The anointing with oil takes
> > place after the end of Matins, before the reading of the 1st Hour.
> >
> > Incidentally, this is the same order as at Vigils on Sundays, where there is
> > also the veneration of the Gospel book which takes place after the reading
> > of the Gospel at matins while Ps. 50 is being read (clearly, not a lot of
> > time here).
> >
> > Finally, as regards your question concerning the "Glory" stichera at
> > aposticha and praises, these stichera can be found in the Lenten Triodion
> > under Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, and Matins of Monday of Cheesefare Week --
> > the day in the Lenten Triodion upon which the Meeting falls this year.  For
> > the stichera at Vespers, use the one that is appointed to be sung at
> > Aposticha of Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, that is Vespers of Sunday evening.
> >  It's the first stichera in Tone 8 (I'm sorry, I don't have a translation
> > handy).  For Praises at Matins, use the 1st stichera that you find -- Tone 3
> >  -- at the Matins Aposticha of Monday of Cheesfare Week.
> >
> > Hope this makes sense.
> >
> > Peter Fekula
> >  ----------
> > From: ustav
> > To: ustav list
> > Subject: [ustav] QUESTION ON "MEETING OF OUR LORD
> > Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 11:12AM
> >
> > From:  Amy Belkoff at All Saints in Eastpointe Michigan
> >
> > I'm not very experienced at Vigils yet, so I'm wondering if someone could
> > clarify this for me.  Is this the proper way to make the transition from
> > Vespers to Matins for "Meeting of Our Lord"?
> >
> > *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> > *  Priest:  Blessing of the wheat, wine, and oil.
> > *  Choir:  "Blessed be the name..."  3X
> > *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> > *  Choir:   "Amen"
> > *  Reader:  Six Psalms
> >
> > Does Psalm 33 get stuck in there anywhere?  Also, when is the best time for
> > the choir (all 3 of us) to go to the center of the church to get anointed?
> >  We've been doing it sometime during the Canons, but that seems to be
> > inconvenient since I'm usually busy singing the Irmoi.
> >
> > One more question!  At the aposticha, at glory, the Liturgial Calendar says
> > to use " Triod idiomelon from Vespers Apost. "  And at the Praises, at glory
> > to use " Triod idiomelon from Matins Apost. "   Where do I find these
> > things?
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Could you supply the Psalm verses appointed for the Festal Antiphons for the
Meeting in the Greek Menaion?  Thanks.
  ----------
From: ustav
To: ustav
Subject: [ustav] Re: QUESTION ON "MEETING OF OUR
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 5:46PM

As was described in an issue of the Russian-language PRAVOSLAVNAYA RUS',
there is another practice here, one that was followed by St. John of
Shanghai/San Francisco, and that is to sing the full festival antiphons of
the Meeting of the Lord (as in the Greek books). These were printed in
Church Slavonic at the time, although they can also be reconstructed
easily enough, being verses from Psalms.
      Despite the note concerning this practice in the English "Festal
Menaion", the use of the antiphons is older than that of the
Typica-Psalms.
      If there is a verse pronounced at the Entrance, in the Russian
Church we do not sing "O come let us worship...", since the verse is seen
as replacing this text.

On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Fr. Basil Rhodes & Mat. Joan Rhodes wrote:

> Dear Ustavers,
>
> For the Meeting of the Lord, the Deacon, at the Little Entrance, is given
an
> "entrance verse" which follows the "Wisdom! Aright!" What then happens to
"Come
> let us worship..." since we sing the typical psalms for this Feast? Is it
> omitted, and the Tropar for the Feast simply replaces it?
>
> Protopriest Basil
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> > *  Deacon or Priest:  Let us pray to the Lord.
> > *  Choir:  Lord have mercy.
> > *  Priest:  Prayer for the blessing of the loaves, wheat, wine, and oil.
> > *  Choir:  "Amen.  Blessed be the name..." 3X; Psalm 33 (up to "...but
they
> > that seek the Lord shall not want any good thing.")
> > *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> > *  Choir:   "Amen"
> > *  Reader:  Six Psalms
> >
> > The question of when the choir should venerate the icon of the feast and
get
> > anointed is an interesting one.  The most common practice in my
experience
> > is for the choir to go up either all at once, or in shifts while the
canon
> > is being read (that is, while the troparia that follow the irmos are
being
> > read by the reader).  In certain parishes, particularly those where the
> > choir is up in a loft, the priest will come out at the end of Vigil with
the
> > oil and anoint the singers at the conclusion of the service.  At the
ROCOR
> > cathedral in San Francisco, for example, they leave the Gospel Book in
the
> > center of the church, with the Royal Doors open until the 1st hour, when
the
> > choir comes down to venerate it and receive a blessing.  Perhaps this is
the
> > approach you should adopt, given that you're virtually alone on kliros,
and
> > pausing the service isn't advisable.
> >
> > All of this is not the way it's outlined in the Typicon, which
prescribes
> > for the bread and wine to be distributed to the congregation while they
> > listen to the appointed readings that immediately precede the Six Psalms
> > (these readings are done extremely rarely).  The anointing with oil
takes
> > place after the end of Matins, before the reading of the 1st Hour.
> >
> > Incidentally, this is the same order as at Vigils on Sundays, where
there
is
> > also the veneration of the Gospel book which takes place after the
reading
> > of the Gospel at matins while Ps. 50 is being read (clearly, not a lot
of
> > time here).
> >
> > Finally, as regards your question concerning the "Glory" stichera at
> > aposticha and praises, these stichera can be found in the Lenten
Triodion
> > under Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, and Matins of Monday of Cheesefare
Week
  --
> > the day in the Lenten Triodion upon which the Meeting falls this year.
For
> > the stichera at Vespers, use the one that is appointed to be sung at
> > Aposticha of Vespers of Meatfare Sunday, that is Vespers of Sunday
evening.
> >  It's the first stichera in Tone 8 (I'm sorry, I don't have a
translation
> > handy).  For Praises at Matins, use the 1st stichera that you find --
Tone 3
> >  -- at the Matins Aposticha of Monday of Cheesfare Week.
> >
> > Hope this makes sense.
> >
> > Peter Fekula
> >  ----------
> > From: ustav
> > To: ustav list
> > Subject: [ustav] QUESTION ON "MEETING OF OUR LORD
> > Date: Monday, February 01, 1999 11:12AM
> >
> > From:  Amy Belkoff at All Saints in Eastpointe Michigan
> >
> > I'm not very experienced at Vigils yet, so I'm wondering if someone
could
> > clarify this for me.  Is this the proper way to make the transition from
> > Vespers to Matins for "Meeting of Our Lord"?
> >
> > *  Choir:  Trop of "Meeting" (T1)   3X  (no Glory or Both now)
> > *  Priest:  Blessing of the wheat, wine, and oil.
> > *  Choir:  "Blessed be the name..."  3X
> > *  Priest:  "The blessing of the Lord be upon you..."
> > *  Choir:   "Amen"
> > *  Reader:  Six Psalms
> >
> > Does Psalm 33 get stuck in there anywhere?  Also, when is the best time
for
> > the choir (all 3 of us) to go to the center of the church to get
anointed?
> >  We've been doing it sometime during the Canons, but that seems to be
> > inconvenient since I'm usually busy singing the Irmoi.
> >
> > One more question!  At the aposticha, at glory, the Liturgial Calendar
says
> > to use " Triod idiomelon from Vespers Apost. "  And at the Praises, at
glory
> > to use " Triod idiomelon from Matins Apost. "   Where do I find these
> > things?
> >
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From Amy Belkoff at All Saints in Eastpointe Michigan

At vespers on Sunday evening, are the Penitential Stichera in T4 or T5.
Also, do I use the Menaion for February 8th or 9th?  I guess what I'm really
asking is:  which day does this Vespers service belong to?  Sunday or
Monday?  If it belongs to Sunday, didn't we already have Sunday's Vespers on
Saturday night?

Thanks everyone!

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>At vespers on Sunday evening, are the Penitential Stichera in T4 or T5.

Tone 4.  The Octoechos (8-tone cycle) begins with Vespers Saturday evening
and continues thru Saturday Matins & Liturgy.

>Also, do I use the Menaion for February 8th or 9th?  I guess what I'm really
>asking is:  which day does this Vespers service belong to?  Sunday or
>Monday?  If it belongs to Sunday, didn't we already have Sunday's Vespers on
>Saturday night?

Vespers on Sunday evening (more commonly served immediately after Liturgy on
this particular Sunday) is Vespers for Monday.  You would, therefore, use
the service for February 9th, which is the commemoration of St. Nichephorus.

In Christ,

Matthew Williams

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Peter Fekula asks:
"Could you supply the Psalm verses appointed for the Festal Antiphons for
the
Meeting in the Greek Menaion?  Thanks"

         Check the *Festal Menaion* of [Bishop]Kallistos and Mother Mary,
pp. 430-431.

(Archimandrite) Serge

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Here are the Psalm verses for the antiphons at the Divine Liturgy for the
Meeting of the Lord, as requested:

			 Ant. I:
V. 1: Ps. 44:2--My heart hath uttered a good word: I speak my works unto
the King. Refrain: Through the prayers of the Theotokos, Saviour, save us.

V. 2: My tongue is the pen of a scrivener: that writeth swiftly. (Refrain)

V. 3: Ps. 44:3--Grace is poured forth in thy lips: therefore hath God
blessed thee forever.

			 Glory... Both now... (Refrain)

			 Ant. II:
V. 1: Ps. 44:4--Gird thy sword upon thy thigh: O thou most mighty.
	 Refrain: Save us, O Son of God, carried in the arms of Simeon the
righteous, as we sing unto Thee: Alleluia.

V. 2--With thy comeliness and thy beauty: bend thy bow, and prosper and
reign. (Refrain).

V. 3:--Thine arrows are sharp, O Thou Most Mighty: the peoples shall be
subdued under Thee; Thou shalt pierce the hearts of the King's enemies.
	 (Refrain).
V. 4: Thy throne, O God, is from ever and ever: the sceptre of Thy Kingdom
is a sceptre of righteousness.
	 (Refrain).
	 Glory... Both now... O Only-begotten Son...

		 Ant. III:
V. 1:--Ps. 44:11: Hearken, O daughter, and and consider, and incline thine
ear: and forget thy people and thy father's house.
	 (Tropar)
V. 2:--Ps. 44:13: The rich among the people: shall entreat thy
countenance.
	 (Tropar)
V. 3:--Ps. 44:18: I will be mindful of thy name: from every generation to
generation.

(Entrance verse: The Lord hath made known His salvation: His righteousness
hath He revealed in the sight of the Gentiles.)
	 Tropar...

	 Note: I have not been able to put my fingers on the issue of
"Orthodox Russia" that printed the full text of the above in Church
Slavonic; however, I believe that Fr.-Archimandrite Peter (Loukianoff) at
Jordanville would know the exact details, since its appearance in print
was due to our correspondence. He had been the "kelleinik" of St. John of
Shanghai and San Francisco; after one note about this matter (I believe by
Fr. Valery Lukianov) had appeared in "Orthodox Russia", I wrote something
or other on the topic to Fr. Peter, and that seems to have been passed on
and sparked the publication of the full text.
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Just received this!

> Subject: Re: Is this ridiculous or what???
>
> Hi
> The U.S. Congress is considering legislation (tabled 12/29) that could
> cost us $.10 for EACH Internet logon. This is in addition to our
> monthly provider's fee.
> According to CNN, Congress will vote in less than two weeks on the
> decision to allow a charge to your phone bill equal to a long distance
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and fill out the form-it takes two
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> we can prevent this outrage from happening.
>
> see also:
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We need to let our representatives know we are against this tax! (Unless,
of course, you are *for* this tax, in which case I hope you have the money
to pay it!)


In Christ,
Elizabeth Riggs, a sinner, and Perennial Student
(forgive me my typos, forgive me if I offend)
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Whoa!  ***** HOLD the horses!!! *****

The answer is: It's a hoax.  A NOT TRUE rumor.

I know. I wrote to my congresswoman when this made the rounds at Ohio
State.  It's not an issue for current concern.  But if you want to get to
know your representative anyway, go ahead and write as I did.  You'll first
get a very nice form letter and then a follow-up form letter that will tell
you no one has any such internet tax scheme in the works and "It will be a
cold day in H......"



Just received this!
>
>> Subject: Re: Is this ridiculous or what???
>>
>> Hi
>> The U.S. Congress is considering legislation (tabled 12/29) that could
>> cost us $.10 for EACH Internet logon. This is in addition to our
>> monthly provider's fee.
>> According to CNN, Congress will vote in less than two weeks on the
>> decision to allow a charge to your phone bill equal to a long distance
>> call EACH time you access the Internet. PLEASE, go to
>> http://www.house.gov/writerep
>and fill out the form-it takes two
>> minutes! Then forward this message to others as quick as you can, so
>> we can prevent this outrage from happening.
>>
>> see also:
>http://www.house.gov/cox/nettax/Web-FAQ.html#FAQ1
>
>
>We need to let our representatives know we are against this tax! (Unless,
>of course, you are *for* this tax, in which case I hope you have the money
>to pay it!)
>
>
>In Christ,
>Elizabeth Riggs, a sinner, and Perennial Student
>(forgive me my typos, forgive me if I offend)
>ewriggs@...
>Personal WEB-page:  http://www.mindspring.com/~ewriggs/home.htm
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Prostrations to all! I thought I had checked this out, but totally missed
the way it was listed on the Hoax WEBsite I use.

I do check stuff like this out before posting. Just missed seeing (am I
going blind or what?) the article about it.

Please forgive me. I'll look much more carefully next time!


In Christ,
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(forgive me my typos, forgive me if I offend)
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Could no-one help with this?  Deacon James

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carles, Trevor
>Sent: Monday, 1 February 1999 16:46
>To: 'ustav@egroups.com'
>Subject: Singing Psalm 118 at Vigil
>Importance: High
>
>The practice in ROCOR parishes in Australia - & elsewhere, judging by the
>Jordanville Calender typicon - is to sing the polyeleos at Matins even when
>Psalm 118 is actually appointed.  If we were to sing Psalm 118, however, what
>would that mean in terms of liturgical actions?  Are the Royal Doors opened &
>the lights turned on etc. as in a polyeleos service? A related point: how &
>when did Psalm 118 fall out of common usage?  Some here have explained it as
>a result of the link in the minds of the people between Psalm 118 & services
>for the departed - Psalm 118 came to seem improper at services other than
>these.
>
>Deacon James Carles
>Sydney/Australia

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At 13:30 05/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Could no-one help with this?  Deacon James
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Carles, Trevor
>>Sent: Monday, 1 February 1999 16:46
>>To: 'ustav@egroups.com'
>>Subject: Singing Psalm 118 at Vigil
>>Importance: High
>>
>>The practice in ROCOR parishes in Australia - & elsewhere, judging by the
>>Jordanville Calender typicon - is to sing the polyeleos at Matins even when
>>Psalm 118 is actually appointed.  If we were to sing Psalm 118, however,
what
>>would that mean in terms of liturgical actions?  Are the Royal Doors
opened &
>>the lights turned on etc. as in a polyeleos service? A related point: how &
>>when did Psalm 118 fall out of common usage?  Some here have explained it as
>>a result of the link in the minds of the people between Psalm 118 & services
>>for the departed - Psalm 118 came to seem improper at services other than
>>these.
>>
>>Deacon James Carles
>>Sydney/Australia
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My understanding, based on reading rubrics in various service books, is
that when Psalm 118 is used it is read rather than sung (i.e. chanted on a
note, not sung to a tune).   When the Evlogitaria begin (which are an
extension to this Psalm) the Holy Doors are opened and the Priest (in
Phelon) and Deacon (with Candle) cense the entire church.

When Polyeleos is used the censing should normally FOLLOW it, i.e. on
Sundays be done during the Evlogitaria and on Feast Days during the
Megalynarion (with all its Psalm verses).


Archimandrite Kyril Jenner.

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NOTE: There are *TWO* services in this post!!

(USUAL NOTE: The Choir Cues *should* arrive on either Thursday
or Friday each week. Sometimes I occasionally get as much
as 4 weeks ahead (my true intention is to *stay* 4 - 6
weeks ahead). These are the notes I make each week to
assist my husband in getting the choir materials together
for Divine Liturgy. Most of the Reader's needs are included
of necessity, as they involve the choir, also. Please
always check for spelling, misusage, etc and send
corrections directly to me (ewriggs@...) and/ or
to the list.

When a choice of services is given, the service used by
our Parish will be sent. The format sent will be that of a
"Temple dedicated to a Saint." In Temples dedicated to the
Lord or to the Theotokos, please make the necessary
adaptations - main change is in the order of Troparia and
Kontakia.

I use the Order of Divine Services, annual Liturgical
Calendar, and the Menaion published by SJoKP as my
main guides and additional materials, eg Lenten
Triondion, Festal Menaion, Horologion, King James
Version of the Bible for Epistle and Gospel readings, and
the Psalter According to the Seventy [pub by Holy
Trinity Monastery] as needed. The version of the
Octoechoes I use is an old, out-of-print edition, but it
will be upgraded in the next few months when I have
enough $$ to do so.

The Gospel reading herein are NOT set up as marked
and edited by Holoviak. They are directly out of my
oldie but goldie PC-Bible program, KJV.)


25 January / 7 February 1999

SUNDAY OF THE PRODIGAL SON
(Tone 2)
I Corinthians 6:12-20     Luke 15:11-32
The New-Martyrs and Confessors of Russia
Romans 8:28-39     Luke 21:12-19
St. Gregory the Theologian, archbishop of
Constantinople
1 Corinthians 12:7-11     John 10:9-16
St. Publius, ascetic of Syria; St. Mares the singer of
Syria; Martyrs Felicitas of Rome and seven sons:
Januarius, Felix, Philip, Silvanus, Alexander, Vitalis,
and Martial; St. Moses, archbishop of Novgorod; St.
Castinus, bishop of Byzantium; St. Demetrius
Skevophylax ("keeper of the sacred vessels") of
Constantinople; New Hieromartyr Vladimir, metropolitan
of Kiev (1918), protohieromartyr of the Communist
Yoke; St. Dwy, virgin of Llandwyn; St. Anatole the
elder of Optina (1894); Martyr Medula and her
companions; St. Apollo of Thebes, monk; Icons of the
Most Holy Theotokos "Assuage My Sorrow" and
"Unexpected Joy".

Reader and Choir Cues

Hours:    3rd Hr:   Troparia: Resurrection;
           Glory . . . Troparion for the Royal
           Martyrs
           Kontakion: for The Royal Martyrs
      6th Hr:   Troparia: Resurrection; Glory . . .
           Troparion for The Royal Martyrs
           Kontakion: for The Prodigal Son

      Third Antiphon (Beatitudes)
12 Troparia:  4 from the  Octoechoes ; 4 from Ode 3 of
the Canon for the Royal Martyrs; 4 from Ode 6 of the
Canon for the Prodigal Son

      In Thy Kingdom remember us, O Lord, when Thou
      comest in Thy Kingdom.

      Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the
      Kingdom of heaven.

We offer Thee the voice of the thief and cry aloud to
Thee:  Remember us, O Saviour in Thy Kingdom.

      Blessed are they that mourn, for they shall be
      comforted.

We bring Thee the Cross for the forgiveness of offenses.
For us hast Thou accepted it, O Lover of mankind.

      Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

We venerate, O Master, Thy tomb and Thy rising,
through which Thou hast delivered the world from
corruption, O Lover of Mankind.

      Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after
      righteousness, for they shall be filled.

What manner of gift of discourse shall we offer unto
you, O faithful witnesses of the Word, valiant
passion-bearers and pastors, who were reckoned like
lambs for the slaughter?

      Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy.

It was fitting for thee, O Vladimir, first hierarch of the
Church of Russia, namesake of the holy enlightener of
Rus', to initiate the glorious contest of struggle and
sufferings. As thou dost precede the host of
passion-bearers crowned by God, may the first crown of
praise be bestowed upon thee.

      Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

Amid the valorous array we behold thee, O sacred one,
first hierarch of the city of St. Peer, holy hierarch
Benjamin, beloved of thy flock as thy namesake, the
patriarch of old, was beloved of Jacob.

      Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called
      the sons of God.

Thou art shown to be first in the rank of the new
martyred priests, O presbyter John, who first stood
before the throne of God in America. For the Lord
crowned thee with a martyr's crown as the denouncer of
the cruel godless ones in Tsarskoe Selo, as He did
another John, the namesake of rapture, who was
wondrous in manliness and word before the tormentors.
With the, O all ye new martyred priests, grant us aid.

      Blessed are they that are persecuted for
      righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of
      heaven.

The depth of sin ever holds me fast, and the tempest of
transgressions overwhelms me. Pilot me, O Christ my
God, to the haven of life and save me, King of glory.

      Blessed are ye when men shall revile you, and
      persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil
      against you falsely, for My sake.

I have wasted in evil living the riches which the father
gave me, and now am brought to poverty. I am filled
with shame and enslaved to fruitless thoughts. Therefore
I cry to Thee who lovest mankind: Take pity on my and
save me.

      Rejoice and be exceeding glad, for great is your
      reward in the heavens.

I am wasted with hunger, deprived of every blessing, and
an exile form Thy presence, O Christ, supreme in
loving-kindness. Take pity on me as I now return and
save me as I sing the praises of Thy love for mankind.

      Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy
      Spirit.

(From Ode 9)  Behold, O Christ, the affliction of my
heart; behold my turning back; behold my tears, O
Saviour, and despise me not. But embrace me once again
in thy compassion and count me with the multitude of the
saved, that with thanksgiving I may sing the praises of
Thy mercy.

      Both now and ever, and unto the ages of ages.
      Amen.

Hail!  Throne in the form of fire:  Hail!  unwedded
Bride.  Hail! to Thee O Virgin who hast brought forth
God for man.


      Troparion of the Resurrection
           (Tone 2)
When Thou didst descend unto death, O Life Immortal, /
then didst Thou slay Hades with the lightning of Thy
Divinity. / And when Thou didst also raise the dead out
of the nethermost depths, / all the Hosts of the Heavens
cried out: / O Life-giver, Christ our God, glory be to
Thee.

      Troparion of the New Martyrs of Russia
           (Tone 4)
O ye holy hierarchs, royal passion-bearers and pastors,
monks and laymen, / ye countless new martyrs and
confessors, men, women and children, /  flowers of the
spiritual meadow of Russia, / who blossomed forth
wondrously in time of grievous persecutions, / bearing
good fruit for Christ in your endurance: / entreat Him as
the One Who planted you, / that he deliver His people
from godless and evil men, / and that the church of
Russia be made steadfast through your blood and
suffering, // unto the salvation of our souls.

           Glory . . .

      Kontakion of the New Martyrs of Russia
           (Tone 2)
O ye new passion-bearers of Russia, / who have with
your confession finished the course of this earth, /
receiving boldness through your sufferings; / beseech
Christ Who strengthened you, / that we also, whenever
the hour of trial find us, / may receive the gift of
courage from God. / For ye are a model for us that
venerate your struggle, / for neither tribulation, prison,
nor death // could separate you from the love of God.

           Both now and ever . . .

      Kontakion of the Prodigal Son
           (Tone 3)
Foolishly have I run away from Thy glory, O Father, /
wasting in sin the wealth that Thou gavest me. /
Therefore with the words of the Prodigal I cry unto
Thee: / I have sinned before Thee, compassionate
Father. / Accept me in repentance // and make me as one
of Thy hired servants.


      The Prokeimenon in the 2nd Tone

The Lord is my strength and my song, // and He is
become my salvation. (Ps. 117:14)

Vs/ With chastisement hath the Lord chastened me, but
He hath not given me over unto death. (Ps. 117:18).

      And in the 7th Tone

For Thy sake, O Lord, we are slain all the day long.

Epistle:  (1 Corinthians 6:12-20;   Romans 8:28-39)

Brethren:  All things are lawful unto me, but all things
are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will
not be brought under the power of any.   Meats for the
belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both
it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for
the Lord; and the Lord for the body. And God hath both
raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own
power. Know ye not that your bodies are the members of
Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and
make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. What?
know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one
body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.  But he that
is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. Flee fornication.
Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he
that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the
Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and
ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price:
therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit,
which are God's.

Brethren:  And we know that all things work together for
good to them that love God, to them who are the called
according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he
also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his
Son, that he might be the firstborn among many
brethren.   Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he
also called: and whom he called, them he also justified:
and whom he justified, them he also glorified.   What
shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who
can be against us?   He that spared not his own Son, but
delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him
also freely give us all things? Who shall lay any thing to
the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.   Who
is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather,
that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God,
who also maketh intercession for us.   Who shall
separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or
distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or
peril, or sword?   As it is written, For thy sake we are
killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the
slaughter.   Nay, in all these things we are more than
conquerors through him that loved us.   For I am
persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things
to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature,
shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which
is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Priest:   Peace be unto the one who has read.
Reader:   And to thy spirit.

      The Alleluia in the 2nd Tone
      (PAUSE between Alleluia and first verse)

      Alleluia!  Alleluia!  Alleluia!

The Lord hear thee in the day of affliction; the name of
the God of Jacob defend thee. (Ps. 19:1)

Vs/  O Lord, save the king, and hearken unto us in the
day when we call upon Thee. (Ps. 19:9)

      And in the 4th Tone

The righteous cried, and the Lord heard them, and He
delivered them out of all their afflictions.

Gospel:   (Luke 15:11-32; Luke 22:12-19)

At that time: And he said, A certain man had two sons:
And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give
me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he
divided unto them his living.  And not many days after
the younger son gathered all together, and took his
journey into a far country, and there wasted his
substance with riotous living.  And when he had spent
all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he
began to be in want.  And he went and joined himself to
a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields
to feed swine.  And he would fain have filled his belly
with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave
unto him.  And when he came to himself, he said, How
many hired servants of my father's have bread enough
and to spare, and I perish with hunger! I will arise and
go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have
sinned against heaven, and before thee,  And am no
more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy
hired servants.  And he arose, and came to his father.
But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him,
and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and
kissed him.  And the son said unto him, Father, I have
sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more
worthy to be called thy son. But the father said to his
servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him;
and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: And
bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and
be merry:  For this my son was dead, and is alive again;
he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and
drew nigh to the house, he heard music and dancing.
And he called one of the servants, and asked what these
things meant.  And he said unto him, Thy brother is
come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because
he hath received him safe and sound. And he was angry,
and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and
entreated him.  And he answering said to his father, Lo,
these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I
at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest
me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends: But
as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured
thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted
calf. And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me,
and all that I have is thine.  It was meet that we should
make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead,
and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.

But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you,
and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues,
and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers
for my name's sake. And it shall turn to you for a
testimony.   Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to
meditate before what ye shall answer:   For I will give
you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries
shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.   And ye shall be
betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks,
and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put
to death.   And ye shall be hated of all men for my
name's sake.  But there shall not an hair of your head
perish.   In your patience possess ye your souls.

      Communion Verse

Praise the Lord in the heavens, praise him in the highest.

Rejoice in the Lord, O ye righteous; praise is meet for
the upright

      Alleluia!  Alleluia!  Alleluia!

           - - -
      By the Waters of Babylon (optional)

      Open to Me the Doors of Repentance (optional)
           - - -

      Dismissal

      (Reverencing of Icon(s) and Kissing of Cross)

      Prayers of Thanksgiving

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1 / 14 February 1999

Sunday of the Last Judgement (Meatfare)
      (Tone 3)
I Corinthians 8:8-9:2     Matthew 25:31-46

      Forefeast of the Meeting

Martyr Tryphon of Campsada near Apamea in Syria
Romans 8:28-39     Luke 10:19-21

Martyrs Perpetua, a woman of Carthage, and the
catechumens Saturus, Revocatus, Saturninus, Secundulus,
and Felicitas; St. Peter the Galatian, hermit near Antioch
in Syria; St. Vendemianus (Bendemianus), hermit of
Bithynia; St. Basil, archbishop of Thessalonica;
New-Martyr Anastasius at Anaplus; St. Tryphon of
Pechenga and Kola; St. Bridget of Ireland; New- Martyr
priest Peter Skipetrov (1918); St. Seiriol, abbot of
Anglesey; St. Timothy the Confessor; Martyrs Theonas,
two children, and Karion; St. Euny, brother of St. Ia of
Cornwall.

Reader & Choir Cues

Hours:    3rd Hour: Troparia: Resurrection; of
                     the Forefeast
                     Kontakion: of the Last
                     Judgement
           6th Hour: Troparia: Resurrection; of
                     the Forefeast
                     Kontakion: of the Forefeast

      Third Antiphon (Beatitudes)

12 Troparia:  4 from Sunday Octoechos; 4 from Ode 3
of the Forefeast; 4 from Ode 6 of the Canon for the Last
Judgement

      In Thy Kingdom remember us, O Lord, when Thou
      comest in Thy Kingdom.

      Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the
      Kingdom of heaven.

O Christ, Thou hast cast out of Paradise Adam, the
forefather, who had set aside Thy commandment.  And
in Thy compassion, Thou hast made to dwell therein the
thief confessing Thee upon the Cross and crying:
Remember me, O Saviour, in Thy Kingdom.

      Blessed are they that mourn, for they shall be
      comforted.

O Giver of life and Lord, Thou hast condemned us
having sinned to the curse of death.  And suffering in
Thy sinless body Thou hast made mortal men live
crying:  Remember us also in Thy Kingdom.

      Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

O Lord, risen from the dead, Thou hast raised us from
passions by Thy Resurrection.  And Thou hast destroyed
all the might of death.  Therefore we cry with faith to
Thee:  Remember us also in Thy Kingdom.

      Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after
      righteousness, for they shall be filled.

Those who went about in the house of God have leapt up
noetically to receive Christ the King Who is coming in
the flesh.

      Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain
      mercy.

Making ready beforehand precious gifts acceptable to
Christ, O ye faithful, let us greet Him with joy today.

      Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

Now hath the tabernacle passed on and truth come forth
as grace arrived! Take Christ up now, O Symeon.

      Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called
      the sons of God.

Now hath the tabernacle passed on and truth come forth
as grace arrived! Take Christ up now, O Symeon.

      Blessed are they that are persecuted for
      righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of
      heaven.

At Thy fearful coming, O Christ, when Thou appearest
from heaven, when the thrones are set up and the books
opened, then spare, O Saviour, spare Thy creature.

      Blessed are ye when men shall revile you, and
      persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil
      against you falsely, for My sake.

Since God is the Judge, nothing can help thee there, no
zeal, no skill, no glory, no friendship, but only the
strength that thou gainest, my soul, from thy works.

      Rejoice and be exceeding glad, for great is your
      reward in the heavens.

Prince and governor will be there together, my soul, rich
and poor; no father or mother will be able to help us, no
brother will redeem us from the condemnation.

      Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy
      Spirit.

Think, my soul, of the fearful examination before the
Judge; in trembling prepare thy defence, lest thou be
condemned to the eternal bonds.

      Both now and ever, and unto the ages of ages.
      Amen.

Hail!  Gate of God through whom the Fashioner passed
made flesh, keeping Thee sealed.  Hail!  Light Cloud
bearing Christ, the divine Rain.  Hail!  Ladder and
heavenly throne.  Hail!  Mountain of God, flowing with
milk and unhewn.

      Troparion of the Resurrection
           (Tone 3)
Let the Heavens rejoice; / let earthly things be glad; / for
the Lord hath wrought might with His arm. / He hath
trampled upon death; / the first- born of the dead hath
He become. / From the belly of Hades / hath He
delivered us // and hath granted to the world great
mercy..

      Troparion of the Forefeast of the Meeting in the
           Temple
           (Tone 1)
The celestial choir of the angels of heaven, coming to
earth, behold the Firstborn of all creation Who is come,
borne into the temple as a Babe in the arms of the
Mother who kneweth not man. Wherefore. with us they
chant hymns of the Forefeast, rejoicing.

                Glory . . .

      Kontakion of the Last Judgement
           (Tone 1)
When Thou comest, O God, upon the earth with glory, /
the whole world will tremble. / The river of fire will
bring men before Thy judgement-seat, / the books will
be opened and the secrets disclosed. / then deliver me
from the unquenchable fire, // and count me worthy to
stand on Thy right hand, Judge most righteous.

           Both now and ever . . .

      Kontakion of the Forefeast of the Meeting in the
           Temple
           (Tone 4)
The word Who is invisibly with the Father is now seen
in the flesh, ineffably born of the Virgin; and He is
given to the high priest on the arm of the elder. Let us
worship Him as our true God!

      The Prokimenon in the 3rd Tone

O chant unto our God, chant ye; // chant unto our King,
chant ye. (Ps. 46:6)

Vs/ Clap your hands, all ye nations; shout unto God with
a voice of rejoicing. (Ps. 46:1)

EPISTLE   (I Corinthians 8:8-9:2)

Brethren:   But meat commendeth us not to God: for
neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat
not, are we the worse. But take heed lest by any means
this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them
that are weak.  For if any man see thee which hast
knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the
conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat
those things which are offered to idols; And through thy
knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom
Christ died?  But when ye sin so against the brethren,
and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat
no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother
to offend. Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not
seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the
Lord?  If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I
am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the
Lord.

      The Alleluia in the 3rd Tone
      (PAUSE between Alleluia and first verse)
      Alleluia, Alleluia, Alleluia

In Thee, O Lord, have I hoped, let me not be put to
shame in the age to come. (Ps. 30:1)

Vs/ Be Thou unto me a God to defend me and a house of
refuge to save me. (Ps. 30:2)

GOSPEL         (Matthew 25:31-46)

At that time, Jesus said to His disciples: When the Son
of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels
with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he
shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd
divideth his sheep from the goats:  And he shall set the
sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.  Then
shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye
blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for
you from the foundation of the world:  For I was an
hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye
gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited
me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.  Then shall
the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we
thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee
drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in?
or naked, and clothed thee?  Or when saw we thee sick,
or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall
answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you,
Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of
these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.  Then shall
he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me,
ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil
and his angels:  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me
no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:  I was
a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed
me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.  Then
shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we
thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or
sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?  Then
shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you,
Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye
did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting
punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

           Communion verse

Praise the Lord from the heavens, praise Him in the
highest. (Ps. 148:1)

Rejoice in the Lord O ye righteous, praise is meet for the
upright.

      Alleluia!  Alleluia!  Alleluia!

           - - -
      At Communion of the Clergy

By the Waters of Babylon (optional)

Open to Me the Doors of Repentance (optional)

           - - -

      Psalm 33

      Dismissal

      (Reverencing of Icon(s) and Kissing of Cross)

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Please forgive me if I missed this part of the discussion, but wouldn't the
use of the Typical Antiphons, vs. proper antiphons for the feast of the
Meeting of our Lord be determined by whether or not it is considered a feast
of the Theotokos or of Our Lord? Which is it? It would appear that, in Slav
use, it has been treated as a feast of Our Lady. This is certainly the
impression one could get from the Troparion of the Feast:

(Tone 1) Rejoice, O Theotokos Virgin full of grace: for from thee has shone
forth the Sun of Righteousness, Christ our God, giving light to those in
darkness. Be glad also, thou righteous Elder, for thou has received in thine
arms the Deliverer of our souls, who bestows upon us resurrection.

But from the Kontakion (and other texts of the service) one could conclude
that the Meeting is a feast of Our Lord:

(Tone 1) Thou who hast sanctified by Thy birth a virgin womb and fittingly
blessed the hands of Simeon, Thou art come, O Christ our God, and on this
day hast saved us. Give peace to Thy commonwealth in time of battle and
strengthen the Orthodox people whom
Thou hast loved, O Thou who alone lovest mankind.

Furthermore Timothy (now Bishop Kallistos) Ware, in the introduction to the
Festal Menaion, says of this feast (p. 60):

"This festival, known in the west as the Presentation of Christ in the
Temple or the Purification of the Blessed Virgin Mary, in the east bears the
title 'Meeting'...the meeting, that is, of Christ with His people. Our Lord,
brought to the temple by His mother and by Joseph, now meets His chosen
people in the persons of Simeon the Elder and Ann the Prophetess. This feast
forms the conclusion of the Nativity sequence..."

From this one would conclude that the feast of the Meeting is a feast of Our
Lord and, therefore, at the Liturgy we should use proper antiphons, as is
the case with the other major feasts of Our Lord. I take it from Fr. John's
post that this is the same conclusion others have reached.

David James

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rev. John R. Shaw [SMTP:vrevjrs@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 11:16 AM
> To: ustav
> Subject: [ustav] Re: QUESTION ON "MEETING OF
>
> Here are the Psalm verses for the antiphons at the Divine Liturgy for the
> Meeting of the Lord, as requested:
>
> 		 Ant. I:
> V. 1: Ps. 44:2--My heart hath uttered a good word: I speak my works unto
> the King. Refrain: Through the prayers of the Theotokos, Saviour, save us.
>
> V. 2: My tongue is the pen of a scrivener: that writeth swiftly. (Refrain)
>
> V. 3: Ps. 44:3--Grace is poured forth in thy lips: therefore hath God
> blessed thee forever.
>
> 		 Glory... Both now... (Refrain)
>
> 		 Ant. II:
> V. 1: Ps. 44:4--Gird thy sword upon thy thigh: O thou most mighty.
>  Refrain: Save us, O Son of God, carried in the arms of Simeon the
> righteous, as we sing unto Thee: Alleluia.
>
> V. 2--With thy comeliness and thy beauty: bend thy bow, and prosper and
> reign. (Refrain).
>
> V. 3:--Thine arrows are sharp, O Thou Most Mighty: the peoples shall be
> subdued under Thee; Thou shalt pierce the hearts of the King's enemies.
>  (Refrain).
> V. 4: Thy throne, O God, is from ever and ever: the sceptre of Thy Kingdom
> is a sceptre of righteousness.
>  (Refrain).
>  Glory... Both now... O Only-begotten Son...
>
> 	 Ant. III:
> V. 1:--Ps. 44:11: Hearken, O daughter, and and consider, and incline thine
> ear: and forget thy people and thy father's house.
>  (Tropar)
> V. 2:--Ps. 44:13: The rich among the people: shall entreat thy
> countenance.
>  (Tropar)
> V. 3:--Ps. 44:18: I will be mindful of thy name: from every generation to
> generation.
>
> (Entrance verse: The Lord hath made known His salvation: His righteousness
> hath He revealed in the sight of the Gentiles.)
>  Tropar...
>
>  Note: I have not been able to put my fingers on the issue of
> "Orthodox Russia" that printed the full text of the above in Church
> Slavonic; however, I believe that Fr.-Archimandrite Peter (Loukianoff) at
> Jordanville would know the exact details, since its appearance in print
> was due to our correspondence. He had been the "kelleinik" of St. John of
> Shanghai and San Francisco; after one note about this matter (I believe by
> Fr. Valery Lukianov) had appeared in "Orthodox Russia", I wrote something
> or other on the topic to Fr. Peter, and that seems to have been passed on
> and sparked the publication of the full text.
>  Fr. John R. Shaw
>
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Icon of the Theotokos, "Soothe My Sorrows"
	 Thou Hope of all ends of the earth, most pure Virgin, Lady
Theotokos, our consolation! Disdain not us sinners, who place our hope in
thy mercy; put out the flame of our sins and moisten our dry hearts with
the dew of repentance, cleanse our mind of sinful thoughts, accept our
prayer of heart and soul, which is brought to thee with sighing. Be thou
our intercessor before thy Son and God, and curb His wrath by thy maternal
prayers; heal our wounds both spiritual and physical, O Lady Theotokos,
soothe the ills of our souls and bodies, calm the storm of evil enemy
attacks, take from us the burden of our sins, and forsake us not unto
perdition, but console our hearts that are contrite with grief, that we
may glorify thee unto our last breath. Amen.

		 St. Moses, Archbishop of Novgorod
	 O most sacred father, hierarch of Christ, Moses, our pastor and
teacher, cast us not away who with faith come to the shrine of thy relics
(or: to thy holy icon) and seek thine aid, calling upon thee in heartfelt
prayer; but make haste to pray to the King of kings and Lord of lords, to
deliver His flock from the wolves that destroy it, and guard and preserve
from worldly turmoil and upheaval every Christian land by the holy
prayers, from hostile invasions and civil war, from famine and pestilence,
flood, and the sword, and fire and needless mortality; and as thou didst
take pity on a merchant, saving him from drowning, and didst save thy holy
hermitage from robbers, so have mercy also on us, who in mind, word and
deed are in the darkness of sin, and deliver us from the wrath of God and
eternal punishment, so that, through thine intercession and help, and by
His mercy and Grace, Christ our God may grant us to live a quiet life,
free from sin, in this world, and deliver us from the standing at the
left, but rather make us worthy to stand on His right hand with all of the
Saints. Amen.

		 Another Prayer for the New Martyrs and Confessors
				 of Russia.
	 Ye holy new-martyrs and confessors of the Church of Russia,
hearken unto our prayer that cometh not of feigned lips! We know that some
of you, whilst yet in youth, hearing of the passion-bearers of old, were
moved in your hearts to imitate them, whom neither torture nor death could
separate from the love of God. Well it is for you, that ye have followed
in their faith and patience, them of whom ye learned and came to love. And
since at all times we are subject to unexpected trials, entreat ye of the
Lord, that He grant us the gift of courage, so needful in the life of man.
Ye that have sanctified all ends of the Russian land by your sufferings,
offer your prayers for us all, and entreat God to preserve His people from
the yoke more terrible than any before it. And may the great sin be
forgiven that weighs upon the people of Russia: the murder of their Ruler,
the anointed of God, and of the hierarchs and pastors with their flocks,
and the sufferings of the confessors, and the desecration of the shrines.
May schisms come to naught in the Russian Church, that all may be one and
that the Lord may lead His husbandmen to His harvest; yea, may the Church
never fall short of good pastors, who shall enlighten with the light ot
the True Faith so great a multitude of people, unlearned in the faith, or
who have fallen away. We are unworthy of the mercy of God, yet for the
sake of your sufferings may Christ our God be gracious unto us and have
mercy upon us all, who call upon your aid. And as for us, let us ever
bring contrition for our since and thanksgiving for all things unto Him,
our Saviour, together with the Father and the Holy Spirit, glorifying Him
for ages of ages. Amen.


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When I was in the seminary at Jordanville, I recall that Archbishop Averky
of blessed memory once told us in class that the Meeting of the Lord is a
joint Feast of both the Lord and the Theotokos. The name itself suggests
the first. On the other hand, it is traditional to use blue vestments.
	 It might be of interest to note that in the Greek tradition (and
if I am not mistaken also the Bulgarian--I have not checked with the
Serbs) the feasts of the Theotokos also have festival antiphons (and
these, too, were observed by St. John of San Francisco). However,  such
feasts of the Theotokos do not have an antrance verse at the Little
Entrance--while the Meeting of the Lord does have such a verse.
	 All of these "minutiae" bear witness to the rich liturgical
tradition that we are blest with...


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Although our parish is young (founded 1989), we have always sung Ps. 118
when it is appointed. I guess we didn't know any better ;-). We use a simple
chant that is printed in the English music for the 8 tones published by St.
John of Kronstadt Press. I understand that this chant melody for Ps. 118 is
one used in the Old Rite. This particular version was recorded by Bishop
Daniel of Erie and passed on by him to Dr. Timothy Clader, the arranger of
the English music.

David James
St. Xenia of Petersburg Church
Methuen, MA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm Jenner [SMTP:cm1984@...]
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 1999 7:21 AM
> To: ustav@egroups.com
> Subject: [ustav] Re: Singing Psalm 118 at Vigil
>
> At 13:30 05/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
> >Could no-one help with this?  Deacon James
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Carles, Trevor
> >>Sent: Monday, 1 February 1999 16:46
> >>To: 'ustav@egroups.com'
> >>Subject: Singing Psalm 118 at Vigil
> >>Importance: High
> >>
> >>The practice in ROCOR parishes in Australia - & elsewhere, judging by
> the
> >>Jordanville Calender typicon - is to sing the polyeleos at Matins even
> when
> >>Psalm 118 is actually appointed.  If we were to sing Psalm 118, however,
> what
> >>would that mean in terms of liturgical actions?  Are the Royal Doors
> opened &
> >>the lights turned on etc. as in a polyeleos service? A related point:
> how &
> >>when did Psalm 118 fall out of common usage?  Some here have explained
> it as
> >>a result of the link in the minds of the people between Psalm 118 &
> services
> >>for the departed - Psalm 118 came to seem improper at services other
> than
> >>these.
> >>
> >>Deacon James Carles
> >>Sydney/Australia
> >
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> My understanding, based on reading rubrics in various service books, is
> that when Psalm 118 is used it is read rather than sung (i.e. chanted on a
> note, not sung to a tune).   When the Evlogitaria begin (which are an
> extension to this Psalm) the Holy Doors are opened and the Priest (in
> Phelon) and Deacon (with Candle) cense the entire church.
>
> When Polyeleos is used the censing should normally FOLLOW it, i.e. on
> Sundays be done during the Evlogitaria and on Feast Days during the
> Megalynarion (with all its Psalm verses).
>
>
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>>The practice in ROCOR parishes in Australia - & elsewhere, judging by the
>>Jordanville Calender typicon - is to sing the polyeleos at Matins even when
>>Psalm 118 is actually appointed.  If we were to sing Psalm 118, however, what
>>would that mean in terms of liturgical actions?  Are the Royal Doors opened &
>>the lights turned on etc. as in a polyeleos service? A related point: how &
>>when did Psalm 118 fall out of common usage?  Some here have explained it as
>>a result of the link in the minds of the people between Psalm 118 & services
>>for the departed - Psalm 118 came to seem improper at services other than
>>these.
>>


We do Psalm 118 when it is called for and my understanding is it is treated
as the other Kathismata, so the doors remain shut etc. In Monastic practice
Psalm 118 is done virtually everyday at Midnight Office ( except on
Saturday when it is done at Matins). So it really is a daily psalm and
should not be overly associated with services for the departed. Though
certainly the Polyeleos has a more festal character.

Hierodeacon Maximos
Ascension Monastery
Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
706/277/9442



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Daniel Olson has already provided most of the "intros" in an earlier post.
  I'll recap those and add a few here.

Epistle:

Readings from the Acts of the Apostles begin "In those days..."  The only
exception are the readings for Pascha (Acts 1:1 - 8) and Ascension (Acts 1:1
  - 12) which begin the narrative and have no introduction.

St. James's, St. John's and St. Peter's Epistles, generally begin with
"Beloved..." (although "Brethren" is used in some cases).  The first reading
from each of these Epistles (1:1 - xx), as is the case in Acts, begins
without any introduction.

The Epistle of St. Jude is divided into two readings, one for Tuesday, one
for Thursday of Cheesefare Week.  Neither of these readings has an
introduction.

Readings from St. Paul's letters to the various Christian communities and to
the Hebrews begin with "Brethren...," except, again, for those readings that
begin a given Epistle (1:1 - xx).  The only other exception to this is the
reading for the Second Sunday of Lent -- Section 304 in Hebrews (Heb. 1:10 -
2:3), which also has no introductory phrase.

Readings from Paul's letters to Timothy and Titus begin with "Timothy/Titus,
my child...," except, again, for those readings that are at the beginning of
one of these letters (1:1 - xx).

The letter to Philemon, read in its entirety on St. Philemon's day, Nov. 22,
has no beginning phrase.


Gospel:

Narrative passages that describe events generally begin "At that time..."

However, there are several occasions throughout the year where there is no
opening phrase, such as the readings in John at the Liturgies of Pascha,
Bright Monday, Mid-Pentecost, Pentecost Sunday and Palm Sunday, and the 9th
Resurrectional Matins reading (which is also the reading for Paschal
Vespers, St. Thomas' Sunday, Pentecost at Matins and the feast day of St.
Thomas, the Apostle); the readings in Matthew describing the Nativity that
are read at the services in the days surrounding that Feast, the readings in
Matthew appointed for Matins and Liturgy of Holy Saturday; as well as the
reading appointed in Luke for the eve of Theophany [Jan. 5] at Liturgy.

There are a few examples in Luke in which "At that time..." is replaced with
"In those days..." or perhaps "In those same days..." (Annunciation at
Liturgy -- Section 3 in Luke [1:24-38], General for the Theotokos at Matins
  -- Section 4 in Luke [1:39 - 49; 56], December 24th at Liturgy -- Section 5
in Luke [2:1-20])

Parables begin with "The Lord told this parable..." (someone perhaps has a
better translation, as I mentioned in an earlier post)

Passages dealing with Jesus's discussions and debates with Jewish leaders
begin "The Lord said unto the Jews that came to him..."

Readings in which Jesus instructs his disciples begin "The Lord said unto
his disciples..."

Finally, readings that are exerpts of longer sermons preached by Christ
often begin simply, "The Lord said..."  This happens quite often in Matthew
and Luke and occasionally in John (some examples are the reading for
Meatfare Sunday -- Section 106 in Matthew [25:31-46], the reading for
Cheesefare Sunday -- Section 17 in Matthew [6:14 - 21], and the reading for
the 3rd Sunday after Pentecost -- Section 18 in Matthew [6:22-33]; the
reading for the 19th Sunday after Pentecost -- Section 26 in Luke [6:31-36],
and Saturday of Meatfare Week -- Section 105 in Luke [21:8-11; 25-27;33-36];
the reading for the Exaltation of the Cross at Matins -- Section 42 from the
half in John [12:28-36]).

Having said all this, the simplest solution would probably be to obtain a
Book of Gospels and a Book of Epistles designed for church use.  Such
Gospels abound, and I know the OCA has published an Epistle book.

Peter Fekula
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From: ustav
To: ustav
Subject: [ustav] Re: Choir Cues for Sunday of the
Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 6:35PM

      Hi Peter!

      Since I don't know all the different ways the Epistle and Gospel should
begin, I leave that to the Readers, Deacons  and
      Priests :).  I just put in the KJV readings as they "spit out" of my
Bible program.

      Do you have a "cue card" kind of thing for the intros to the readings?
I am of the philosophy that if someone knows
      something, others can learn it, too. All that is needed is to codify
most of this info. Yes, lots of exceptions and "when this
      then that but when the other then something else" kinds of
considerations, but if someone knows it already, then others can
      learn it, too!

      Just keep beating us about the head and shoulders with those lovely wet
noodles :) and eventually we will learn the
      mechanics of liturgics....

      Ted says "Hey," and thanks you for reviewing our choir book a while
back. Pray for my business to pick up so he can start
      attending the Choir Conferences again. He has learned so much at just
the two he was able to attend....

      In Christ,

      Elizabeth Riggs, a sinner, and Perennial Student
      (forgive me my typos, forgive me if I offend)
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At 02:34 PM 01/25/1999 -0500, you wrote:

First of all, Ted and Elizabeth:  Thanks to you for undertaking to issue
these cues on a weekly basis.  If errors come to light and are corrected, so
much the better for all of us.  Others would perhaps not be so willing to
put themselves under such scrutiny every week as you do; your efforts are
commendable, as is your good nature.

There are a couple of things to mention about the order below.

Since the Epistle reading is from St. Paul's letter to Timothy, it should
begin, "Timothy, my child..."

The Gospel reading is a parable, and so should begin, "The Lord told this
parable..."  I'm sure my translation is lousy and others can perhaps give a
more official version, but you get the idea.  At any rate, this reading is
not a narrative passage, which are the ones that usually begin with "At that
time..."

Peter Fekula

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Dearest friends in Christ,
At St. Sergius Theological Academy in Paris the Ps 118 was sung in the 5th
tone, as required by the Typicon. Depending on the local tradition, the
censing should be done either during the singin of this Psalm, or during the
"Blagosloven esi Gospodi". Thsi also depends on where the priest reads
the Holy Gospel. I have seen that in the US, in some churches it is read
in the center of the church, in others, it is read on the Altar Table, and still
in others the priest reads it out of the Holy Gates, facing West. In our
Russian tradition, it is more common to read the Gospel in the Altar, on the
Altar table, except if it is a great feast, then its read in the middle of the
church.
Unfortunately not many churches sing the PS 118 instead of the Polyeleos,
but it should be noted that this Ps has to do with the departed, because it
relates to
life after death, to the Resurrection. In fact it is sung, according to the
Typicon, around the summer period, which occurs near Pascha. Notice also that
it is sung around the Feasts of the Nativity and Theophany, which are the
"winter
Pascha". Therefore, it is actually, in its textual context, a more Paschal
liturgical element than the Polyeleos, which in turn is a feast element. I
would tend to think that it should be sung as if replacing the Polyeleos,
and according to the Typicon, in the 5th tone, tropar-stichirny tone, not
irmosny.
In Christ,
deacon Vsevolod

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It would be interesting to know if there are any churches, parishes, or
communities, or monasteries, that read the Prayer of St Ephrem, not only during
Great Lent, but also, as prescribed in the Typicon, during the Christmas Lent?
Could anyone inform me if you know such churches, where this is practised?

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At 02:45 PM 02/05/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Daniel Olson has already provided most of the "intros" in an earlier post.
> I'll recap those and add a few here.
>
>Epistle:
>
>Readings from the Acts of the Apostles begin "In those days..."  The only
>exception are the readings for Pascha (Acts 1:1 - 8) and Ascension (Acts 1:1
> - 12) which begin the narrative and have no introduction. <SNIP>
>
>
>Gospel: <SNIP>

>
>Having said all this, the simplest solution would probably be to obtain a
>Book of Gospels and a Book of Epistles designed for church use.  Such
>Gospels abound, and I know the OCA has published an Epistle book.
>
>Peter Fekula

	 Thanks for the help!

	 When we can afford it, we'll get a church Gospel book and the
	 Apostolos. (Please continue to pray for my little business...)
	 In the meantime, I'll use the "cue card" you sent.

	 If I'm "off", please correct me! :)

	 In Christ,
	 Elizabeth Riggs

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According to the official Typicon of the Great Church (Constantinople), the
Meeting of the Lord is a Marian feast with some characteristics of a feast of
the Lord.  The way you tell this is by looking at how the feast is combined
with a Sunday of the Resurrection.  Notice that the Resurrection is not
replaced (as in a feast of the Lord) but rather combined with the Meeting (as
in a feast of the Mother of God).  On all these questions, it is best to
consult the official Typicon rather than trying to figure it out on our own.

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I want to make a point about the opening phrases of the Epistle readings.
  Generally, the opening text is edited to make the lection stand on its
own, rather than sounding like a continuation of a previous passage.
This would affect two of the upcoming readings:

1.  On the reading for the New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia, the
beginning should be "Brethren: We know...."

2.  The reading for the Sunday of the Last Judgement should begin
"Brethren: Meat commendeth us not...."

Nicholas Park

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