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#315 From: "matcheilefriends" <matcheilefriends@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:06 am
Subject: Do u think this picture is funny?
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#314 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:02 pm
Subject: IF YOUR ACCEPTANCE IS TOTAL, THE OTHER WILL BE HELPED IMMENSELY
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: [RiverIIOsho] IF YOUR ACCEPTANCE IS TOTAL, THE OTHER WILL BE HELPED
IMMENSELY




Beloved Master,
    Where does care for others become interference?

//Osho://
    THE MOMENT IDEOLOGY ENTERS, care becomes interference, love turns bitter,
becomes almost a kind of hatred, and your protection becomes a prison. The
ideology makes the difference.

     For example, IF YOU ARE A MOTHER, TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD. He needs you, he
cannot survive without you, you are a must. He needs food, he needs love, he
needs care. BUT HE DOES NOT NEED YOUR IDEOLOGY, he does not need your ideals. He
does not need your Christianity, your Hinduism, your Islam, your Buddhism. He
does not need your scriptures, he does not need your beliefs. He does not need
your ideals, how he should be!

     ONLY AVOID IDEOLOGY, IDEALS, GOALS, ENDS, and then care is beautiful! Then
care is innocent. Otherwise, care is cunning! When there is no ideology in your
caring -- you don't want to make your child a Christian, you don't want to make
your child this or that, Communist or Fascist; you don't want your child to
become a businessman or a doctor or an engineer; you don't have any ideals for
your child.

     You say, "I will love, and when you grow up, you choose! And be whatsoever
it is natural for you to be. MY BLESSINGS, WHATSOEVER YOU ARE -- MY BLESSINGS!
And whatsoever you will be, from my side you are accepted and welcome. Not that
only when you become the president of the country, I will love you; and if you
become just a carpenter, then there will be no love; then I will feel ashamed of
you. Only when you bring a gold medal from the university, there will be a
welcome. If you come a failure, I will be ashamed of you. Only when you are
good, virtuous, moral, this and that, you will be my child. Otherwise, I am not
related to you, you are not related to me."

     THE MOMENT YOU BRING ANY IDEA, YOU BRING POISON IN THE RELATIONSHIP. Care is
beautiful. But when care has some idea, then it is cunningness -- then it is a
bargain, then it has conditions.

     AND OUR ALL LOVE IS CUNNING! Hence, this misery in the world, this hell! Not
that care is not there. CARE IS THERE, but it is too much with cunningness. The
mother cares, the father cares, the husband cares, the wife cares, the brother,
the sister -- everybody is caring. I am not saying that nobody is caring. PEOPLE
ARE CARING TOO MUCH! But still the world is a hell. Something is wrong.
Something is fundamentally wrong!

     What is that fundamental wrong? Where things go wrong? Caring has conditions
in it, "Do this! Be that!" HAVE YOU EVER LOVED ANYBODY WITH NO CONDITIONS? Have
you ever loved anybody as he or she is: you don't want to improve, you don't
want to change, your acceptance is total, utter! Then you know what care is. YOU
WILL BE FULFILLED THROUGH THAT CARE, and the other will be helped immensely.

     And remember, IF YOUR CARE HAS NO BUSINESS IN IT, NO AMBITIONS IN IT, the
person you cared about will love you forever! But, if your care has some ideals
in it, then the person you cared about will never be able to forgive you!

     THAT'S WHY CHILDREN ARE INCAPABLE OF FORGIVING THEIR PARENTS. You go and ask
the psychiatrist, the psychoanalyst. All the cases that come to them are the
cases of children whose parents cared too much -- but their care was
businesslike. It was cold, it was calculated; they wanted some of their
ambitions to be fulfilled through the child.

     LOVE HAS TO BE A FREE GIFT! The moment there is a price tag on it, it is no
more love.

OSHO
The Diamond Sutra
Ch #6: Bodhisattvahood
am in Buddha Hall



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#313 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:23 pm
Subject: FREEDOM IMPLIES THE RIGHT TO SAY 'YES' OR TO SAY 'NO'
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:21 PM
Subject: [RiverIIOsho] FREEDOM IMPLIES THE RIGHT TO SAY 'YES' OR TO SAY 'NO'




    YOU CAN BECOME BUDDHAS. You have the capacity, the potential, to become a
Buddha. The birds are poor. But man has fallen so low that even with poor birds
he starts feeling jealous.

     You ask, "What is the secret of this that seems so hard for human beings?"
The secret is consciousness, CONSCIOUSNESS BRINGS FREEDOM. Freedom means: not
only freedom to do the right -- if that was the meaning of freedom, what kind of
freedom it would be? IF YOU ARE ONLY FREE TO DO THE RIGHT, THEN YOU ARE NOT
FREE. Freedom implies both the alternatives: to do the right, to do the wrong.

     FREEDOM IMPLIES THE RIGHT TO SAY 'YES' OR TO SAY 'NO'. And this is something
subtle to be understood. Saying 'no' and you feel more freedom than saying
'yes'. And I'm not philosophizing. It is a simple fact you can observe in
yourself. Whenever you say 'no', you feel more free. Whenever you say 'yes', you
don't feel free. Because 'yes' means you have obeyed. 'Yes' means you have
surrendered -- where is the freedom? 'No' means you are stubborn, keeping aloof.
'No' means you have asserted yourself. 'No' means you are ready to fight. 'NO'
DEFINES YOU MORE CLEARLY THAN 'YES'. 'Yes' is vague -- it is like a cloud. 'No'
is very solid, substantial -- like a rock.

     That's why psychologists say that between seven and fourteen years of age,
EACH CHILD STARTS LEARNING TO SAY 'NO' MORE AND MORE. By saying 'no', he's
getting out of the psychological womb of the mother. Even when there is no need
to say 'no', he will say 'no'. Even when to say 'yes' was in his favor, he will
say 'no'. There is much at stake. He has to learn to say 'no' more and more.

     BY THE TIME HE IS FOURTEEN -- SEXUALLY MATURE -- he will say the ultimate
'no' to the mother, he will fall in love with a woman. That is his ultimate 'no'
to the mother. He is turning his back on the mother -- he says, 'I am finished
with you. I have chosen my woman. I have become an individual, independent in my
own right. I want to live my life, I want to do my thing.'

     AND IF THE PARENTS INSIST THAT HE HAVE SHORT HAIRS, HE WILL HAVE LONG HAIRS.
If the parents insist that he have long hairs, he will have short hairs. Just
watch few days more... When hippies will became parents then they will see --
their children will have short hairs, because they will have to learn to say
'no'. If the parents insist that cleanliness is next to God, the children will
start living in every kind of dirt; they will be dirty, they won't take a bath,
they won't clean themselves, they won't use soap. And they will find
rationalizations -- that the soap is dangerous to the skin, that it is
unnatural, that no animal ever uses soap.

     THEY CAN FIND AS MANY RATIONALIZATIONS AS POSSIBLE, but deep down all those
rationalizations are just cover-ups. The real thing is they want to say 'no'.
And, of course, when you want to say 'no', you have to find reasons. HENCE, 'NO'
GIVES YOU A SENSE OF FREEDOM. Not only that, it also gives you a sense of
intelligence.

     To say 'yes' needs no intelligence. When you say 'yes', nobody asks you
'why?' When you have already said 'yes', who bothers to ask you why? -- there is
no need of any reasoning, any argument. You have already said 'yes'. When you
say 'no', 'why?' is bound to be asked. SAYING 'NO' SHARPENS YOUR INTELLIGENCE --
it gives you a definition, a style, freedom. Watch the psychology of the 'no'.

     IT IS SO HARD FOR HUMAN BEINGS TO BE IN HARMONY because of consciousness.
Consciousness gives freedom. Freedom gives you the capacity to say 'no', and
there is more possibility to say 'no' than to say 'yes'. And without 'yes',
there is no harmony. 'Yes' is harmony.

     BUT IT TAKES TIME TO GROW UP, TO MATURE -- to come to such a maturity where
you can say 'yes' and yet remain free, where you can say 'yes' and yet remain
unique, where you can say 'yes' and yet not become a slave.

     THE FREEDOM THAT IS BROUGHT BY 'NO' IS A VERY CHILDISH FREEDOM. It is good
for seven to fourteen-year-olds -- but if a person gets hung up in it, and his
whole life becomes a 'no'-saying, then he has stopped growing.

     THE ULTIMATE GROWTH IS TO SAY 'YES' WITH SUCH JOY AS A CHILD SAYS 'NO'. That
is a second childhood. And the man who can say 'yes' with tremendous freedom and
joy, with no hesitation, with no strings attached, with no conditions -- a pure
and simple joy, a pure and simple 'yes' -- THAT MAN HAS BECOME A SAGE, that man
lives in harmony again. And his harmony is of a totally different dimension than
the harmony of trees, animals, birds.

     Trees, animals and birds live in harmony because they cannot say 'no'. And
the sage lives in harmony because he does not say 'no'. BETWEEN THE TWO -- the
birds and the Buddhas -- ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS: ungrownup, immature, childish,
stuck somewhere, still trying to say 'no' to have some feeling of freedom.

     I AM NOT SAYING DON'T LEARN TO SAY 'NO'. I am saying learn when it is time
to learn to say 'no' -- but don't get stuck in it. Slowly, slowly, see that
there is a higher freedom and a greater harmony that comes with 'yes', a peace
that surpasseth understanding.

OSHO
The Book of Wisdom
Ch #12: Buddha in the supermarket
am in Buddha Hall



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#312 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:10 pm
Subject: THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE ANY CHANGE IN LIFE IS TO CHANGE CONSCIOUSNESS
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Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:49 AM
Subject: [RiverIIOsho] THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE ANY CHANGE IN LIFE IS TO CHANGE
CONSCIOUSNESS




    YOU GO ON MOVING IN THE SAME UNCONSCIOUS WAY, in the same unconscious
direction -- and again and again you are hit. And you think, 'Why there is so
much misery? Why? Why God created such a miserable world in the first place? IS
GOD A KIND OF SADIST? Does he want to torture people? Why he has created a life
which is almost like a prison, and in which there is no freedom?'

     And life is absolutely free. But to see that freedom, first you will have to
free your consciousness. Remember it as a criterion: THE MORE CONSCIOUS YOU ARE,
THE MORE FREE; THE LESS CONSCIOUS YOU ARE, THE LESS FREE. The more conscious you
are, the more blissful; the less conscious you are, the less blissful. It
depends how much conscious you are.

     AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL GO ON LOOKING INTO THE SCRIPTURES to find out
ways how to become more free, how to become more blissful, how to attain to
truth. That is not going to help, because it is not a question of the
scriptures.

     If you are unconscious and you go on reading the Bible and the Koran and the
Vedas and the Gita, it is not going to help -- because your unconsciousness
cannot be changed by your studies. In fact, the scripture cannot change your
consciousness, but your unconsciousness will change the scripture -- the meaning
of the scriptures: YOU WILL FIND YOUR OWN MEANINGS THERE. You will interpret in
such a way that the Bible, the Veda, the Koran, will start functioning as
imprisonments. That's how Christians and Hindus and Mohammedans are -- all
imprisoned!

I have heard...
    After booking into a large hotel, a self-styled evangelist read in his room
for an hour or two -- and he was reading the Bible -- then went down to the bar,
and after a couple of drinks, he struck up a conversation with the red-headed
barmaid. He stayed up until closing time, and after the girl had cleaned up,
they both went up to the evangelist's room.
     When he started to interfere with her clothing, the barmaid seemed to have
second thoughts. 'Are you sure this is alright?' she said, 'After all you are a
holy man.'
     'My dear', he replied, 'it's written in the Bible.'
     She took him at his word, and they spent a very pleasant night together. The
next morning, however, as the girl was preparing to leave, she said, 'You know,
I don't remember the part of the Bible you spoke about last night.'
     The evangelist picked up the Gideon's Bible from the bedside table, opened
the cover, and showed her the flyleaf, on which was inscribed, 'The redheaded
barmaid screws.'

     Reading the whole Bible for one hour, and this was his finding. Somebody has
inscribed on the flyleaf...

     If you read Bible, YOU read it, remember. And the meaning that you give it
will be yours, the interpretation will be yours. It cannot help you, because it
cannot even protect itself from you. How can it help you? THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE
ANY CHANGE IN LIFE IS TO CHANGE CONSCIOUSNESS. And to change consciousness you
will NOT have to go into the Bible and the Vedas, you will have to go inwards,
you will have to go into meditation. Scholarship won't help....

     BUDDHA SAID 'I AM A PHYSICIAN. I don't give you definitions of light, I
simply heal your eyes.' And that's what Jesus is. And all the miracles that are
reported in the Bible are not miracles, but parables -- that a blind man came to
him and he touched his eyes, and the blind man was healed and could see
immediately.

     IF IT IS JUST ABOUT THE PHYSICAL EYE, THIS IS NOT MUCH. Then Jesus is
already out of date, because medical science can do it. Sooner or later, Jesus
will have to be completely forgotten. If he was simply curing physical eyes,
then it is not going to mean much in the future. This can be done by science.
And that which can be done by science should be done by science. Religion should
not enter into it -- there is no need. Religion has far higher things to do.

     So I insist again and again that these stories are not miracles, but
parables. People ARE blind, and the Jesus-touch is a magic touch. HE HELPS THEM
TO SEE, he helps them to become aware, he helps them to become more conscious.

OSHO
I Say Unto You
Vol 1, Ch #7: Surrender in darkness
am in Buddha Hall



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#311 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:08 am
Subject: FREEDOM: AN INSIGHT THAT "I HAVE TO BE FREE, IF I HAVE TO BE AT ALL."
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] FREEDOM: AN INSIGHT THAT "I HAVE TO BE FREE, IF I HAVE TO
BE AT ALL."




    A SENSE OF FREEDOM is one of the qualities of a sannyasin... A sannyasin is
not only free, he is freedom. He always lives in a free way.

     FREEDOM DOES NOT MEAN LICENTIOUSNESS. Licentiousness is not freedom,
licentiousness is just reaction against slavery -- so you move to the other
extreme. Freedom is not the other extreme, it is not reaction.

     FREEDOM IS AN INSIGHT that, "I have to be free, if I have to be at all.
There is no other way to be. If I am too much possessed by the church -- by
Hinduism, by Christianity, by Mohammedanism -- then I cannot be, then they will
go on creating boundaries around me. They will go on forcing me into myself like
a crippled being. I have to be free. I HAVE TO TAKE THIS RISK OF BEING FREE, I
have to take this danger."

     Freedom is not very convenient, is not very comfortable -- it is risky. A
sannyasin takes that risk. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT HE GOES ON FIGHTING WITH EACH
AND EVERYBODY. It does not mean that when the law says "Keep to the right," or
"Keep to the left," he goes against it. No. He does not bother about trivia. If
the law says "Keep to the left," he keeps to the left because it has nothing to
do... it is not a slavery. But about important, essential things... If the
father says, "Get married to this woman, because she is rich and money will be
coming," a sannyasin will say, "No. How can I marry a woman when  am not in love
with her? This will be disrespectful to the woman."

     If the father says, "Go to the church every Sunday because you are born in a
Christian home," he will say, "I WILL GO TO THE CHURCH IF I FEEL, I WILL NOT GO
BECAUSE YOU SAY." Birth is accidental, it does not matter much. "Church is very
essential. If I feel like, I will go." I'm not saying don't go to the church --
but go only when your feeling has arisen for it, then there will be a communion.
Otherwise, no need to go.

     About essential things, the sannyasin will always keep his freedom intact.
And because he respects freedom, HE WILL RESPECT OTHERS' FREEDOM TOO. He will
never interfere with anybody's freedom, whosoever that other is. If your wife
has fallen in love with somebody, you feel hurt, you will cry tears of sadness.
But that is your problem, you will not interfere with her. You will not say,
"Stop it! --because I am suffering." You will say, "This is your freedom. If I
suffer that is my problem -- I have to tackle it, I have to face it. If I feel
jealous, I have to get rid of my jealousy. But you go on your own. Although it
hurts me, although I would have liked that you had not gone with anybody, but
that is my problem. I cannot trespass your freedom."

     Love respects so much, it gives freedom. AND IF LOVE IS NOT GIVING FREEDOM,
IT IS NOT LOVE, IT IS SOMETHING ELSE. A sannyasin is immensely respectful about
his own freedom, very careful about his own freedom, and so is he about others'
freedoms too.

     THIS SENSE OF FREEDOM GIVES HIM AN INDIVIDUALITY, he is not just a part of
the mass mind. He has a certain uniqueness -- his way of life, his style, his
climate, his individuality. He exists in his own way. He loves his own song. He
has a sense of identity, he knows who he is. HE GOES ON DEEPENING HIS FEELING
FOR WHO HE IS, and he never compromises.

OSHO
The Heart Sutra
Ch #10: Sannyas: Entering the Stream
am in Buddha Hall



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#310 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:09 am
Subject: YOU HAVE TO CREATE YOURSELF BY YOUR OWN EFFORT
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] YOU HAVE TO CREATE YOURSELF BY YOUR OWN EFFORT




    Freedom is
    the very law of life.
    Life itself is rooted in Freedom.

    We are not machines,
    we are not pre-programmed --
    we are utter Freedoms.
    Now it is up to us,
    what to make of it.

    You have to take your life
    into your own hands.
    And you are responsible for it.

    No fate is responsible,
    no destiny is responsible.
    You have to create yourself by your own effort.
    The total responsibility is yours.

          OSHO



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#309 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:08 am
Subject: IF ONLY I HAD BEEN LESS BLIND, I'D HAVE SOMEONE TO HOLD ON TO
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:43 PM
Subject: [RiverIIOsho] IF ONLY I HAD BEEN LESS BLIND, I'D HAVE SOMEONE TO HOLD
ON TO




"If Only"
      by Hoobastank

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I thought it wasn't wrong,
To hide from you,
a simple truth.

I was scared,
I felt it all along,
But it hurt too much for me to share.

If only I, had been less blind.
I'd have someone to hold on to.
If only I, could change your mind,
If only I had known, if only I had you...

I finally understand,
Why things have happened,
And how it all could go so wrong.

Will this pain ever end?
'cause I don't think I can carry on.

If only I, had been less blind.
I'd have someone to hold on to.
If only I, could change your mind,
If only I had known, if only I had you...

If only I had you!..
If only I had you!..

If only I, had been less blind.
I'd have someone to hold on to.
If only I, could have spoke my mind,
If only it were true, we could start brand-new
I know I could make it through

If only I had you!..
If only I had you!..
If only I had you!..




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#308 From: "carliqgkfriends" <carliqgkfriends@...>
Date: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:30 pm
Subject: [Private Photo Share] Cali Girl- Has sent you private photos.
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#307 From: "matchbncfriends" <matchbncfriends@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:11 pm
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#306 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:33 am
Subject: YOU HAVE BEEN MADE AFRAID OF EVER BEING IN LOVE WITH YOURSELF
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Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:49 AM
Subject: [RiverIIOsho] YOU HAVE BEEN MADE AFRAID OF EVER BEING IN LOVE WITH
YOURSELF




    LOVE KNOWS NOTHING OF DUTY. Duty is a burden, a formality. Love is a joy, a
sharing. LOVE IS INFORMAL. The lover never feels that he has done enough, the
lover always feels that more is possible. The lover never feels that, "I have
obliged the other." On the contrary, he feels that, "Because my love has been
received, I am obliged. The other has obliged me by receiving my gift, by not
rejecting it." The man of duty thinks that, "I am higher, spiritual,
extraordinary. Look how I serve people!"

     THESE SERVANTS OF THE PEOPLE ARE THE MOST PSEUDO PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, and
most mischievous too. If we can get rid of the public servants, humanity will be
unburdened, will feel very light, will be able to dance again, sing again.

     But for centuries your roots have been cut, poisoned. YOU HAVE BEEN MADE
AFRAID OF EVER BEING IN LOVE WITH YOURSELF, which is the first step of love and
the first experience. A man who loves himself, respects himself.

     AND A MAN WHO LOVES HIMSELF AND RESPECTS HIMSELF, RESPECTS OTHERS TOO --
because he knows, "Just as I am, so are others. Just as I enjoy love, respect,
dignity; so others enjoy." He becomes aware that we are not different -- as far
as the fundamentals are concerned, we are one. We are under the same law: aes
dhammo sanantano.

     Buddha says: WE LIVE UNDER THE SAME ETERNAL LAW. In the details, we may be a
little bit different from each other -- which brings variety, which is
beautiful. But in the foundations, we are part of one nature.

     THE MAN WHO LOVES HIMSELF enjoys the love so much, becomes so blissful, that
THE LOVE STARTS OVERFLOWING, IT STARTS REACHING OTHERS. It HAS to reach! If you
live love, you have to share it. You cannot go on loving yourself forever --
because one thing will become absolutely clear to you: that if loving one
person, yourself, is so tremendously ecstatic and beautiful, how much more
ecstasy is waiting for you if you start sharing your love with many many people!

     SLOWLY THE RIPPLES START REACHING FARTHER AND FARTHER. You love other
people, then you start loving animals, birds, trees, rocks. You can fill the
whole universe with your love. A SINGLE PERSON IS ENOUGH TO FILL THE WHOLE
UNIVERSE WITH LOVE, just as a single pebble can fill the whole lake with ripples
-- a small pebble.

OSHO
The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha
Vol 5, Ch #5: Love knows nothing of duty
am in Buddha Hall
[part 2 of 9]



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#305 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:36 am
Subject: PEOPLE FIND FAULT WITH OTHERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LOVE THEMSELVES
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] PEOPLE FIND FAULT WITH OTHERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LOVE
THEMSELVES




    THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE SUCH GREAT FAULT-FINDERS. They find fault with
themselves -- how can they avoid finding the same faults in others? In fact,
they will find them and they will magnify them -- they will make them as big as
possible. That seems to be the only saving device; somehow, to save face, you
have to do it. THAT'S WHY THERE IS SO MUCH CRITICISM AND SUCH A LACK OF LOVE.

     I SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUND SUTRAS OF BUDDHA, and only an
awakened person can give you such an insight.

     He says: LOVE YOURSELF. This can become the foundation of a radical
transformation.

     DON'T BE AFRAID OF LOVING YOURSELF. Love totally, and you will be surprised:
the day you can get rid of all self-condemnation, self-disrespect,
self-disrespect; the day you can get rid of the idea of the original sin; the
day you can think of yourself as worthy and loved by God -- will be a day of
great blessing. From that day onwards you will start seeing people in their true
light, and you will have compassion. And it will not be a compassion cultivated;
it will be a natural, spontaneous flow.

     AND A PERSON WHO LOVES HIMSELF CAN EASILY BECOME MEDITATIVE -- because
meditation means being with yourself. If you hate yourself -- as you do, as you
have been told to do, and you have been following it religiously... IF YOU HATE
YOURSELF, how you can be with yourself? And meditation is nothing but enjoying
your beautiful aloneness, celebrating yourself. That's what meditation is all
about.

     MEDITATION IS NOT A RELATIONSHIP. The other is not needed at all, one is
enough unto oneself. One is bathed in one's own glory, bathed in one's own
light. One is simply joyous -- because one is alive, because one is.

OSHO
The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha
Vol 5, Ch #5: Love knows nothing of duty
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#304 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:34 am
Subject: IF YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE YOURSELF, YOUR SPIRIT BECOMES WEAK
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    Only a Buddha can say: LOVE YOURSELF. No priest, no politician, can agree
with it -- because this is destroying their whole edifice, their whole structure
of exploitation.

     IF A MAN IS NOT ALLOWED TO LOVE HIMSELF, his spirit, his soul, becomes
weaker and weaker every day. His body may grow but he has no inner growth,
because he has no inner nourishment. He remains a body almost without a soul, or
with only a potentiality, a possibility, of a soul. The soul remains a seed, and
it will remain a seed if you cannot find the right soil of love for it. And you
will not find it if you follow the stupid idea that: "Don't love yourself."

     I ALSO TEACH MY SANNYASINS TO LOVE THEMSELVES FIRST. It has nothing to do
with ego. In fact, love is such a light that the darkness of the ego cannot
exist in it at all. If you love others, IF YOUR LOVE IS FOCUSED ON OTHERS, YOU
WILL LIVE IN DARKNESS.

     TURN YOUR LIGHT TOWARDS YOURSELF FIRST, become a light unto yourself first.
Let the light dispel your inner darkness, your inner weakness. Let the love make
you a tremendous power, a spiritual force. AND ONCE YOUR SOUL IS POWERFUL, you
know you are not going to die -- you are immortal, you are eternal.

     LOVE GIVES YOU THE FIRST INSIGHT INTO ETERNITY, love is the only experience
that transcends time. That's why lovers are not afraid of death: LOVE KNOWS NO
DEATH. A single moment of love is more than a whole eternity. But love has to
begin from the very beginning. Love has to start with this first step: LOVE
YOURSELF.

     DON'T CONDEMN YOURSELF. You have been condemned so much, and you have
accepted all that condemnation. Now you go on doing the harm to yourself. Nobody
thinks himself worthy enough, nobody thinks himself a beautiful creation of God;
nobody thinks himself that he is needed at all.

     THESE ARE POISONOUS IDEAS, but you have been poisoned; you have been
poisoned with your mother's milk. And this has been your whole past. HUMANITY
HAS LIVED UNDER A DARK DARK CLOUD OF SELF-CONDEMNATION. If you condemn yourself,
how can you grow? How you can ever become mature? And if you condemn yourself,
how can you worship existence? If you cannot worship existence in you, you will
become incapable of worshiping existence in others -- it will be impossible. You
can become part of the whole, only if you have great respect for the God that
resides within you.

     YOU ARE A HOST, GOD IS YOUR GUEST. By loving yourself you will know this:
that God has chosen you to be a vehicle. In choosing you to be a vehicle, he has
already respected you, loved you. IN CREATING YOU, HE HAS SHOWN HIS LOVE FOR
YOU. He has made you not accidentally. He has made you with a certain destiny,
with a certain potential, with a certain glory that you have to attain. Yes, God
has created man in his own image.

     MAN HAS TO BECOME A GOD. Unless man becomes God, there is going to be no
fulfillment, no contentment. But how can you become a god? Your priests say that
you are a sinner. Your priests say that you are doomed, that you are bound to go
to hell. And they make you very much afraid of loving yourself.

     THIS IS THEIR TRICK: TO CUT THE VERY ROOT OF LOVE. And they are very cunning
people. The most cunning profession in the world is that of the priest; then he
says: Love others. Now it is going to be plastic, synthetic -- a pretension, a
performance.

     They say: Now love humanity, your mother country, your motherland, life,
existence, God. Big words, but utterly meaningless. Have you ever come across
humanity? You always come across human beings. AND YOU HAVE CONDEMNED THE FIRST
HUMAN BEING THAT YOU CAME ACROSS -- that is YOU! You have not respected
yourself, not loved yourself. Now your whole life will be wasted in condemning
others.

OSHO
The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha
Vol 5, Ch #5: Love knows nothing of duty
am in Buddha Hall
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#303 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:32 am
Subject: THE PRIESTS AND THE POLITICIANS ARE ALL PARASITES
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   We begin with one of the most profound sutras of Gautama the Buddha:
     LOVE YOURSELF...

     JUST THE OPPOSITE HAS BEEN TAUGHT TO YOU by all the traditions of the world,
all the civilizations, all the cultures, all the churches. They say: Love
others, don't love yourself.

     And there is a certain cunning strategy behind their teaching. LOVE IS THE
NOURISHMENT FOR THE SOUL. Just as food is to the body, so is love to the soul.
Without food, the body is weak; without love, the soul is weak. AND NO STATE, NO
CHURCH, NO VESTED INTEREST, has ever wanted people to have strong souls --
because a person with spiritual energy is bound to be rebellious.

     LOVE MAKES YOU REBELLIOUS, REVOLUTIONARY. Love gives you wings to soar high.
Love gives you insight into things, so that nobody can deceive you, exploit you,
oppress you.

     AND THE PRIESTS AND THE POLITICIANS survive only on your blood, they survive
only on exploitation. They are parasites: ALL the priests and ALL the
politicians.

     TO MAKE YOU SPIRITUALLY WEAK THEY HAVE FOUND A SURE METHOD, hundred percent
guaranteed, and that is TO TEACH YOU NOT TO LOVE YOURSELF. Because if a man
cannot love himself, he cannot love anybody else either. The teaching is very
tricky. They say: Love others -- because they know if you cannot love yourself,
you cannot love at all. But they go on saying: Love others, love humanity, love
God, love nature, love your wife, your husband, your children, your parents --
but don't love yourself. BECAUSE TO LOVE ONESELF is selfish according to them.

     AND THEY CONDEMN SELF-LOVE AS THEY CONDEMN NOTHING ELSE. And they have made
their teaching look very logical. They say: If you love yourself, you will
become an egoist; if you love yourself, you will become narcissistic. It is not
true! A MAN WHO LOVES HIMSELF FINDS THAT THERE IS NO EGO IN HIM. It is by loving
others without loving yourself, trying to love others, that the ego arises.

     The missionaries, THE SOCIAL REFORMERS, the social servants, HAVE THE
GREATEST EGOS IN THE WORLD -- naturally. Because they think themselves to be
superior human beings. They are not ordinary -- ordinary people love themselves.
They love others, they love great ideals, they love God. AND ALL THEIR LOVE IS
FALSE, because all their love is without any roots.

     A MAN WHO LOVES HIMSELF takes the first step towards real love.

     IT IS LIKE THROWING A PEBBLE INTO A SILENT LAKE: the first circular ripples
will arise around the pebble, very close to the pebble, naturally -- where else
they can arise? And then they will go on spreading. To the farthest shore, they
will reach. If you stop those ripples arising close to the pebble, there will be
no more ripples at all. Then you cannot hope to create ripples reaching to the
farthest shores; it is impossible.

     And the priests and the politicians became aware of the phenomenon: STOP
PEOPLE FROM LOVING THEMSELVES AND YOU HAVE DESTROYED THEIR CAPACITY TO LOVE. Now
whatsoever they will think is love, will be only pseudo. It may be duty, but not
love -- and "duty" is a four-letter dirty word. Parents are fulfilling their
duties towards their children, and then in return children will fulfill their
duties towards their parents. The wife is dutiful towards the husband, and the
husband is dutiful towards his wife. Where is love?

OSHO
The Dhammapada: The Way of the Buddha
Vol 5, Ch #5: Love knows nothing of duty
am in Buddha Hall
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#302 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:04 pm
Subject: TO IMPOSE YOUR IDEA ON SOMEBODY IS VIOLENCE, SHEER VIOLENCE
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] TO IMPOSE YOUR IDEA ON SOMEBODY IS VIOLENCE, SHEER
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    THE MOMENT YOU HAVE FOUND A MASTER, you have found the path.

     AND WHO IS THE MASTER? -- not one who fulfills your mind expectations. A
Christian mind has Christian expectations, a Hindu mind has Hindu expectations,
a Buddhist mind has Buddhist expectations.

     A MASTER IS ONE WHO FULFILLS THE LONGING OF YOUR HEART. It has nothing to do
with the mind, it is a love affair. You simply find that you are in love. You
simply find that your heart feels at home, at ease; THAT YOUR HEART HAS FOUND A
TREASURE, feels a tremendous benediction. And as you come closer to the Master
-- in your love, in your trust -- your peace deepens; your silence becomes not
something dead, the silence of a graveyard, but something singing and dancing,
alive.

     THE MORE YOU ARE MOVING TOWARDS YOUR LIFE'S FULFILLMENT, the more your life
becomes a rejoicing, a deep joy for no reason at all, A BLISSFULNESS SO DEEP AND
SO ABUNDANT that you can start sharing it with others. In fact, you have to
share it with others because it is overflowing, you cannot contain it.

     FOR THE FIRST TIME, YOU ARE SMALL AND YOUR BLISS IS INFINITE. These are the
indications that you are moving towards home. Your ecstasies go on growing
deeper and higher.

     AND IF YOU ARE MOVING AWAY, YOU WILL BECOME MORE MISERABLE, more sad, more
saintly, more Christian, more Hindu, more Jaina -- all kinds of diseases. More
knowledgeable... but inside, more and more empty -- a beggar living by a thin
thread of hope that somewhere in the other life, somewhere in the other world,
you will be rewarded for all your sadness, your long British faces.

     SAINTS DON'T LAUGH. They have fallen below humanity, because only human
beings laugh. Buffaloes don't laugh, donkeys don't laugh -- they all belong to
the categories of the saints and sages. Perhaps these fellows -- donkeys and
buffaloes -- may have been great sages in their past lives and now they are
getting their reward. DON'T MISBEHAVE WITH THEM, be respectful. One never knows.
But as far as I am concerned, your sense of humor, your laughter will become
deeper as you grow in consciousness. You will become more playful in life.

     So there are neither orders nor guidelines, but only vague hints,
indications, and A CONSTANT EFFORT TO SHARPEN YOUR INTELLIGENCE so that you can
find your way. And when you have found, you have the courage to burst into
songs, into dances, into rejoicings.

     THAT'S THE FUNCTION OF THE MASTER: to make you more intelligent and more
courageous, more loving, more understanding. But there are no orders, no
disciplines, no guidelines.

     Orders, disciplines, guidelines -- these have been used by people who wanted
to dominate you, by people who wanted to dictate their terms, to enforce their
ideas on other people's lives. I call all such people great criminals. TO IMPOSE
YOUR IDEA ON SOMEBODY, to give some ideal, some mold, IS VIOLENCE, SHEER
VIOLENCE. You are being destructive, and a master cannot do that. A master is
always creative.

OSHO
Beyond Enlightenment
Ch #10: I answer your questions just to kill them
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#301 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:04 pm
Subject: NO GENERAL GUIDELINES CAN BE PROVIDED
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    You have also asked about GUIDELINES. People have been told such nonsense for
centuries -- as if spirituality is a kind of geography, so that maps are given
to you, guidelines are provided to you: Follow the right guidelines and you will
reach the goal.

     Alas, things are not so cheap. THERE ARE NO MAPS IN EXISTENCE, NO SOLID
GUIDELINES EITHER -- because each individual is so unique that what may be a
guideline for one may prove a distraction for another; what may be medicine to
one may prove poison to another. Individuals are so different.

     And if a Master cannot understand the difference of individuals, their
unique qualities, talents, geniuses, then who is going to understand? NO GENERAL
GUIDELINES CAN BE PROVIDED.

     THE MASTER SIMPLY GOES ON DROPPING ALL KINDS OF HINTS. Remember my word
'hints' -- not guidelines.

     AND YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE WHATEVER SUITS YOU, and you have to experiment to see
whether it is workable for you or not. If it works, go on deeper into it; if it
does not work, don't feel guilty. You have not committed any sin, you have
simply failed in an experiment.

     WITH A MASTER, LIFE BECOMES A SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT. It is no more a
question of heaven and hell, punishment and reward. It is a question of
exploration. And each individual has to explore in his own way.

     THERE ARE NO GOLDEN RULES: this is the only golden rule there is. There is
no superhighway with milestones telling you how far you are from the goal. In
the spiritual exploration, YOU HAVE TO WALK AND CREATE YOUR PATH BY YOUR
WALKING; there is no ready-made path, so that you have simply to walk on it.

     And my feeling is that this is tremendously blissful and ecstatic. YOU ARE
NOT LIKE RAILWAY TRAINS. Running on rails, you cannot run into the jungles, into
the mountains, anywhere you like. The railway train is a prisoner.

     BUT A RIVER IS NOT A PRISONER. It also travels long. It may be coming
thousands of miles, from the Himalayas, and it reaches finally to the ocean --
with no map, with no guidelines, with no guides, and nobody on the way to whom
the river can inquire, "Which way am I to go now?"... because each step is a
crossroad.

     But strangely enough, EVERY RIVER REACHES TO THE OCEAN WITH GREAT FREEDOM,
finding its own path.

     THE MASTER CAN ONLY GIVE YOU CERTAIN HINTS ABOUT HOW TO FIND YOUR PATH. He
can give you certain indications whether you have found it or not, can give you
certain criteria to judge whether you are moving towards the goal or away from
the goal. But he does not give you guidelines. In the very nature of things, it
is not possible.

OSHO
Beyond Enlightenment
Ch #10: I answer your questions just to kill them
pm
[part 3 of 4]



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#300 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: HERE, ORDERS ARE PROHIBITED; HERE, ONLY INTELLIGENCE IS APPEALED TO
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] HERE, ORDERS ARE PROHIBITED; HERE, ONLY INTELLIGENCE IS
APPEALED TO




    AND AN AUTHENTIC MASTER IS NOT YOUR COMMANDER. He loves you, and he wants you
to be more understanding, more intelligent, more capable of finding your way,
more insightful, more intuitive. This cannot be done by orders.

I am reminded of another incident in the first world war.
    In Berlin, one German professor of logic was recruited into the army. There
was a shortage of soldiers, and everybody who was physically able was asked to
volunteer. Otherwise, they were forcing people to go to the army...
     Because all the societies, all the nations, all the cultures, have taken it
for granted that the individuals exist for them, not vice-versa. To me, just the
opposite is the case: the society exists for the individual, the culture exists
for the individual, the nation exists for the individual. EVERYTHING CAN BE
SACRIFICED, BUT THE INDIVIDUAL CANNOT BE SACRIFICED FOR ANYTHING. Individuality
is the very flowering of existence -- nothing is higher than it. But no culture,
no society, no civilization is ready to accept a simple truth.
     The professor was forced. He said, "I am not a man who can fight. I can
argue, I am a logician. If you need somebody to argue with the enemies, I am
ready -- but fighting is not my business, it is barbarous to fight."
     But nobody listened, and finally he was brought to the parade grounds. The
parade started, and the commander said, "Left turn." Everybody turned left, but
the professor remained standing as he was standing.
     The commander was a little worried: "What is the matter? Perhaps the man is
deaf." So he shouted loudly, "Now turn to the left again!" All the people turned
to the left again -- but that man remained standing, as if he had not heard
anything.
     Forward, backward... all the orders were given and everybody followed. That
man remained just standing in his place.
     He was a well-known professor, even the commander knew him. He could not be
treated just like any other soldier, he had a certain respect.
     Finally, when the parade ended and everybody came back to the same line from
where they had started, the commander went to the professor and asked, "Is there
some problem with your ears? Can't you hear?"
     He said, "I can hear."
     "But then," the commander said, "why did you remain standing? Why did you
not follow the orders?"
     He said, "What is the point? When everybody finally has to come back to the
same state, after all this movement going forward and backward, left and right,
what have they gained?"
     The commander said, "It is not a question of gaining, it is a training!"
     But he said, "I don't need any training. This kind of stupid thing... You
come to the same place after doing all kinds of stupid things, which I don't see
any point in. Can you explain to me why I should turn left and not right?"
     The commander said, "Strange, no soldier asks such questions."
     The professor said, "I am not a soldier, I am a professor. I have been
forced to be here, but you cannot force me to do things against my
intelligence."
     The commander went to the higher authorities and said, "What to do with this
man? He may spoil other people -- because everybody is laughing at me, and
everybody is saying, 'Professor, you did great!' I cannot tackle that man. He
asks... each thing has to be explained: 'Unless I understand it, unless my
intelligence supports it, I am not going to do it.'"
     The commander in chief said, "I know the man. He is a great logician. His
whole life's training is in questioning everything. I will take care of him, you
don't be worried."
     He called the professor to his office and said, "I am sorry, but we cannot
do anything. You have been recruited, the country needs soldiers. But I will
give you some work which will not create any difficulty for you and will not
create any difficulty for others. You come with me to the army mess."
     He took the professor there, and showed him a big pile of green peas. He
told the professor, "You do one thing: sit down here. You have to sort out the
big peas on one side, the small peas on the other side. And after one hour I
will come to see how things are progressing."
     After one hour he came back. The professor was sitting there and the peas
were also sitting there, in the same place. He said, "What is the matter? You
have not even started."
     He said, "For the first and for the last time, I want you all to understand
that unless you explain to me... Why I should sort out the peas? My intelligence
feels insulted by you. Am I an idiot, to sort peas? What is the need? Moreover,
there are other problems. Sitting here, I thought that perhaps there is some
need, but there are questions which have to be decided: there are peas which are
big and there are peas which are small, but there are peas of many other sizes.
Where they are going to go? You have not given me any criterion."

     A mystery school, a spiritual path, is not the path of a soldier. HERE,
ORDERS ARE PROHIBITED; here, only intelligence is appealed to. The decision is
always on your part.

     IT IS ONLY THE PHONY MASTERS WHO GIVE YOU ORDERS, because they cannot
satisfy your intelligence. An authentic master is perfectly capable to satisfy
your intelligence, and then leave it up to you. IT IS YOUR LIFE, and the final
decision has to be made not by anyone else other than you. You have to take the
responsibility on your own shoulders. So there are no orders as far as true
masters are concerned.

OSHO
Beyond Enlightenment
Ch #10: I answer your questions just to kill them
pm
[part 2 of 4]




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#299 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:02 pm
Subject: THOSE WHO ORDER ARE NOT AUTHENTIC MASTERS
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Beloved Osho,
    What is the difference between obeying the master and following his guidance?

//Osho://
    The question is complex. In the first place, THE MASTER DOES NOT EXPECT TO BE
OBEYED BUT TO BE UNDERSTOOD. He does not give you guidelines either. In his
presence, your loving heart finds them.

     It means that THOSE WHO ORDER and expect that their orders should be
followed, complied with, ARE NOT AUTHENTIC MASTERS.

     THE MASTER IS NOT A COMMANDER. He does not issue things like 'Ten
Commandments.' Certainly, he explains to you his experience, his realization,
and then it is up to your intelligence to do whatever is right. It is not a
direct order, it is an appeal to your intelligence.

     THE ORDER NEVER CARES ABOUT YOUR INTELLIGENCE, the order never wants you to
understand anything. The basic purpose of all ordering of people is to reduce
them into robots.

     All over the world, IN EVERY ARMY, THEY ARE TURNING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE INTO
MACHINES -- of course, in such a way that you don't understand what is going on.
Their methodology is very indirect.

     What does it mean that thousands of people every morning are marching,
following orders -- "Right turn, left turn, move forward, move backward" -- for
what is all this circus going on? And for years it goes on. THIS IS TO DESTROY
YOUR INTELLIGENCE.

     The strategy is that if for years continuously you go on following any kind
of stupid thing, meaningless, every day in the morning, every day in the
evening... AND YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK WHY. You just have to do it, to do it
as perfectly as possible; there is no need for you to understand why. And when a
person goes through such a training for years, the natural effect is that he
stops asking why. And why? -- because the questioning attitude is the very base
of all intelligence. THE MOMENT YOU STOP ASKING WHY, you have stopped growing as
far as intelligence is concerned.

It happened in the second world war...
    A retired army man... he had fought in the first world war, and he was
honored well; he was a brave man. And now almost twenty-five years had passed.
He had a small farm and lived silently.
     He was going from the farm to his house with a bucket full of eggs, and few
people in a restaurant, just jokingly, played a trick on the poor old army man.
One of the men in the restaurant shouted, "Attention!" and the man dropped the
bucket and stood in the position of attention.
     It had been twenty-five years since he had gone through the training. But
the training had gone into the bones, into the blood, into the marrow; it had
become part of the unconscious. He completely forgot what he was doing -- it
happened almost autonomously, mechanically.
     He was very angry. But those people said, "Your anger is not right, because
we can call out any word we want. Who is telling you to follow it?"
     He said, "It is too late for me to decide whether to follow it or not to
follow it. My whole mind functions like a machine. Those twenty-five years
simply disappeared. 'Attention' only means 'attention'. You destroyed my eggs. I
am a poor man."

     But this is being done all over the world. And not only today; from the very
beginning ARMIES HAVE BEEN TRAINED NOT TO USE INTELLIGENCE, but to follow
orders.

     You have to understand one thing very clearly: that TO FOLLOW AN ORDER AND
TO UNDERSTAND A THING ARE TWO DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE THINGS. If, by
understanding, your intelligence feels satisfied and you do something out of
that, you are not following an order from the outside; you are following your
own intelligence.

OSHO
Beyond Enlightenment
Ch #10: I answer your questions just to kill them
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[part 1 of 4]




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#296 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:32 am
Subject: I AM A TOTALLY NEW KIND OF MAN, THE BEGINNING OF A NEW HUMANITY
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HUMANITY




    But not only in Germany, EVERYWHERE THERE IS FEAR -- because it has always
happened that whenever there was a man of charismatic influence who can attract
people so much that those people become identified with him, there has always
been difficulty. THAT'S WHY, BECAUSE OF THEIR PAST EXPERIENCE, THEY ARE AFRAID.
All over the world there is great fear. And the strange thing is, their fear is
absolutely baseless.

     I AM A TOTALLY NEW KIND OF MAN, the beginning of a new humanity. But I can
understand them. They have only their past, and their past is long, and their
experience is wrong. AND WHENEVER THERE HAS BEEN A MAN OF INFLUENCE, HE HAS
CREATED TROUBLE.

     Adolf Hitler created the second world war. Now they are afraid. If their
younger generation is being influenced by me and is ready to do anything that I
say, naturally fear arises. Again the same situation may happen. But just tell
them, WITH ME IT CANNOT HAPPEN. Without me, it can happen....

     AND MY PEOPLE ARE GROWING IN EVERY COUNTRY. And in every country my people
will have to face the same problems. They cannot believe, the politicians and
others, that I am not going to use my influence politically. It is something
inconceivable to those retarded people, that there can be a man who has great
influence and is not going to use it in any way.

     MY INFLUENCE IS THAT OF LOVE. I love my people, and I would not like to put
my people in any kind of destructive situation. BUT WHAT CAN YOU  DO WITH PEOPLE
WHO ARE SO AFRAID that they cannot even come to visit the commune to see and
experience for themselves that there is nothing to fear; THAT MY PEOPLE ARE
PEACEFUL, and wherever they will go they will bring the peace, the silence, the
rejoicing. They will bring songs to every country and ecstasy to every land.

     Our war is totally different, they don't understand. WE ARE SPREADING A
CERTAIN KIND OF ATMOSPHERE around the world which can prevent wars, which can
prevent Adolf Hitlers, which can prevent nuclear weapons from being used.

OSHO
The Last Testament
Vol 1, Ch #10: My work has just begun
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#295 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:31 am
Subject: AN INTELLIGENT PERSON CANNOT BECOME A SOLDIER
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] AN INTELLIGENT PERSON CANNOT BECOME A SOLDIER




    MY INFLUENCE IS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE TO ADOLF HITLER. And the older
generation may be afraid. They have seen Adolf Hitler, they have seen his great
influence, they have seen people becoming almost mad after him. AND HE HIMSELF
WAS A RETARDED MIND. He himself was not intelligent at all, just a third-rate
person. He was refused admission to schools, colleges. He was refused admission
to the university. He wanted to learn architecture. Then, seeing everywhere
rejection -- nobody could think him capable of anything great -- HE JOINED THE
ARMY.

     That was the last resort of all the idiots, of all the fools, of all the
stupid minds. THE ARMY IS THE LAST RESORT: YOU DON'T NEED INTELLIGENCE. In fact,
intelligence is a barrier in becoming a good soldier.

     Just as a retarded person cannot become a sannyasin, AN INTELLIGENT PERSON
CANNOT BECOME A SOLDIER. What it means to become a soldier? It means you have
accepted death as your profession. You don't have any sensitivity for what you
are doing. For a little salary and employment, you have accepted to murder
innocent people -- children, women, old people -- who have done no harm to you,
to whom you are not even introduced.

     THIS NEEDS SOMETHING OF A VERY LOW KIND OF PERSON, almost an animal.
Physically he looks like a human being, mentally he is not. These people have
fought all the wars. And of course, when you want to kill people, you have to be
ready to be killed any moment.

     They have not only sold their intelligence and their freedom into the hands
of some dictator -- FOR JUST A LITTLE EMPLOYMENT, THEY HAVE BECOME MURDERERS.
And simultaneously they have accepted for that little salary to be suicidal also
-- because in war it is not necessarily so that you will only kill and you will
not be killed.

     So those leaders were emphasizing, "Be ready to kill or be killed. The stake
is great: the nation's pride, the race and its ego, the religion and its
messiah." ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TEACHING YOU JUST DEATH, either somebody
else's or your own.

     I AM SIMPLY AMAZED when people start comparing me with people who are
absolutely opposite to me. In anything, my influence is to live more, to allow
others to live more; to love more, to allow others to love more -- let this
whole earth become a celebrating planet.

     THERE IS NO REASON TO KILL AND BE KILLED, and just for some fool like Adolf
Hitler, Mussolini, Joseph Stalin. If they want, they can commit suicide, they
can hang themselves from any tree. But why spread this poison? THIS POISON THEY
SPREAD BECAUSE IT FULFILLS THEIR EGO. The name of the nation, race, religion is
just a facade -- just a curtain, a mask. Behind it is some monster who looks
like a human being. My message is for love, life, laughter.

OSHO
The Last Testament
Vol 1, Ch #10: My work has just begun
pm in Jesus Grove
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#294 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:31 am
Subject: I AM THE GREATEST ENEMY OF ADOLF HITLER'S ANYWHERE
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] I AM THE GREATEST ENEMY OF ADOLF HITLER'S ANYWHERE




    MY INFLUENCE ON GERMAN PEOPLE is exactly the opposite of Adolf Hitler's. But
influence is there. Those who don't know me, they can find a certain similarity.
Those who know, they will find that the influence is there -- in fact it is far
greater than Adolf Hitler's.

     And it is not me who is saying it. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WESTERN
JOURNALISTS, author of many significant books, Aubrey Menen, wrote a book almost
ten years before about the new mystics. He has put my picture on the cover page.
The book was published by Thames and Hudson in London. Inside what he said, even
I could not believe. He said, "I have seen Adolf Hitler, interviewed Adolf
Hitler, I have listened to Adolf Hitler in a meeting, sitting in the front row,
and I have seen his tremendous influence on people -- but it is nothing compared
to Bhagwan."

     HITLER'S INFLUENCE, he says, WAS ONLY THAT OF ORATORY -- there was no
substance in it. Those people were enchanted because their egos were fulfilled.
He was saying to those people that, "You are the highest race amongst human
beings. You are the purest Nordic Aryans. It is your birthright to rule all over
the world."

     NATURALLY, ALL THOSE WHO HAD AMBITIONS, EGO TRIPS, WERE INFLUENCED. Here is
a man who can manage to fulfill their hidden desire. They themselves, of course,
cannot manage it, it is too big. Aubrey Menen says that people were influenced,
but that influence was something sick. It was fulfilling their egos.

     And the people who are influenced by me are totally different. I AM MAKING
EVERY EFFORT TO DESTROY YOUR EGO. And to destroy the German ego is the hardest
thing! In fact the intelligent German young generation is influenced by me
against Adolf Hitler, and against any possibility of Adolf Hitler ever happening
again in Germany. I AM THE GREATEST ENEMY OF ADOLF HITLER'S ANYWHERE. And any
country which is influenced by me, particularly the young generation -- I don't
care about the graveyards, I only trust the young blood, fresh blood -- if they
are in love with me, that means Adolf Hitler is impossible, destruction is
impossible. And it is true about other countries too.

     IF ALL OVER THE WORLD THE INTELLIGENT YOUNG PEOPLE BECOME ATTUNED WITH ME,
fall in love with me, not only Adolf Hitler but even the third world war is
impossible. To create a third world war you will need all kinds of geniuses,
talented people, young. And if they have in some way fallen in love with me,
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SERVE ANY DESTRUCTIVE CAUSE AT ANY PRICE. They are going
to simply refuse.

OSHO
The Last Testament
Vol 1, Ch #10: My work has just begun
pm in Jesus Grove
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#293 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:30 am
Subject: I HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF CONQUERING THE WORLD
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] I HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF CONQUERING THE WORLD




     THE GHOST OF ADOLF HITLER -- his long shadow -- is still present. And Adolf
Hitler is not something that you can confine into one person. It is something
deep down in the German mind itself.

     ADOLF HITLER WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED if the German mind was not been
supportive to him. And not only ordinary people -- who can be easily influenced,
impressed -- but very exceptional people: geniuses like Heidegger, who was
certainly the most important philosopher of the Twentieth Century -- he was a
follower of Adolf Hitler.

     WHAT THESE PEOPLE WERE SEEING IN ADOLF HITLER was something that was in
themselves. In Adolf Hitler, it was magnified. In themselves they could not see
it, but Adolf Hitler became the mirror; they could see it, and he became the
representative of the collective unconscious mind of Germany. Hence, the
influence that he had.

     Although forty years have passed [when these words were spoken in  July
1985], THE GERMAN MIND IS STILL THE SAME. And when they see my influence on
people, they become afraid -- for the simple reason that if I can influence so
many young intelligent German people, I can paint the whole of Germany red.

     AND GERMANY HAS SUFFERED THROUGH ADOLF HITLER'S INFLUENCE SO MUCH, the wound
is still there -- it hurts. They don't know much about me. All they know is that
thousands of young Germans are ready to die for me. TO THEIR KNOWLEDGE, THIS
PHENOMENON HAD HAPPENED ONLY WITH ADOLF HITLER. In the same way, thousands and
thousands of people were ready to die for him, to do anything for him. So they
see a certain similarity. But there is no similarity at all.

     I TEACH PEOPLE TO LIVE FOR ME, NOT TO DIE FOR ME. I teach people to dance
for me, not to die for me. All your so-called great leaders of the world have
told their people that they should be ready to die for them. That was thought to
be something of great pride. AND CERTAINLY MILLIONS HAVE DIED FOR IDIOTS. They
died, they killed -- all kinds of neurosis was released by these so-called
leaders. I AM NOT A LEADER, I am not a politician. I insist to my people to live
long, to live happily, to rejoice.


     EVEN IF I DIE, CELEBRATE IT! Nobody has ever said to his people that, "When
I die, you rejoice and celebrate, sing and dance." In thousands of years, not a
single man has been there to say this. They were just saying, "If you love me,
be ready to die for me -- because we are going to conquer lands, conquer the
whole world. And if you are not ready to die for me, you are a coward, and then
how are you going to conquer the world?"

     I HAVE A DIFFERENT WAY OF CONQUERING THE WORLD. I don't need nuclear
weapons, atom bombs. I have a different approach totally. And these so-called
"world conquerors" have all failed. None of them could conquer the whole world
-- neither Alexander the Great, nor Napoleon Bonaparte, nor Ivan the Terrible,
nor Adolf Hitler, nor Joseph Stalin, nor Mussolini, nor Mao Tse-tung. They all
have, without exception, failed. Because this is not the way to conquer. HATE IS
NOT THE WAY TO CONQUER. It will destroy the other, and in consequence it will
destroy you, too -- your victory is going to be just a very passing phase.

     I say to my people: YES, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD -- by our
rejoicing, by our love, by our peace, serenity, by our meditation. We are not
politicians. We are not going to rule them. In fact, we are going to teach
everybody not to be ruled by anyone and not to rule anyone, either. Only then
you are really an authentic human being.

OSHO
The Last Testament
Vol 1, Ch #10: My work has just begun
pm in Jesus Grove
[part 1 of 4]



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#292 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:01 pm
Subject: FW: WHO KNOWS WHEN DEATH WILL COME
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                 Watch the man on the left walking, crossing the road where there
is NO car.
                     It is so obvious that the coast on the left is clear and
safe to cross. Any person would see it as safe...however, only God knows!

                     Take nothing for granted, not even for a split second! Be
grateful for every living  minute.
                      j


















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http://unitednotionz.blogspot.com/
UNITE (United Notions for Intellectual  Theosophical Enlightenment).
-Nanag.



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#291 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:03 pm
Subject: ENTERING THE PATH YOU BECOME MORE RESPECTABLE THAN ANYBODY ELSE
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] ENTERING THE PATH YOU BECOME MORE RESPECTABLE THAN
ANYBODY ELSE




     I have always told a small story about A GREAT JOURNALIST WHO DIED AND
REACHED THE DOORS OF HEAVEN.

     THE DOORS OF HEAVEN AND HELL ARE NOT FAR APART, they are in front of each
other. The distance is also not much. And naturally one would like to enter into
heaven. So he knocked on the door. The doorkeeper opens a small window in the
door and asks, "What do you want?"

     He said, "I am a great journalist. I have just died, and I want to enter."

     The doorkeeper said, "I am sorry but I have to refuse you -- because we have
a quota; WE CAN HAVE ONLY TWELVE JOURNALISTS IN HEAVEN. And that quota has been
filled for centuries -- for centuries, no new journalist has entered.

     And anyway, EVEN THOSE TWELVE ARE UTTERLY USELESS BECAUSE NOTHING HAPPENS IN
HEAVEN. They had tried to publish a newspaper, but only one issue appeared --
because there are only saints here -- no murder, no suicide, no crime, no
politics, no struggle for power... No change ever happens, everything is
eternally the same. From where you can get news?"

     "And," the doorkeeper said, "you must have heard the definition of news:
when a dog bites a man it is not news, but when a man bites a dog it is news. SO
NOTHING SENSATIONAL HAPPENS HERE, NO LOVE AFFAIR... When people get bored, they
read the first issue that has been published centuries before.

     "YOU GO TO HELL where there is every moment tremendous things happening.
Because all the active people of the world, ALL THE CREATIVE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD
ARE THERE -- painters, musicians, poets, actors, dancers, thieves, murderers,
rapists, psychoanalysts, philosophers -- you will find every variety.

     "HEAVEN IS MONOTONOUS. Only dull, dead saints -- skeletons. Their only
quality is that they don't do anything. JUST GO TO HELL AND ENJOY. And you will
find everything that you may have missed on earth -- because for centuries upon
centuries, all the juicy people have collected there. In fact, I myself want to
go... but once you get into heaven, you cannot escape. So I am stuck here. My
suggestion is that you just go."

     BUT JOURNALISTS ARE STUBBORN PEOPLE. He said, "I have a suggestion, and I
think you must be compassionate enough to do it for me. Just give me twenty-four
hours' entry. If I can convince one of the journalists inside to go to hell,
then you can put me in the quota -- twelve journalists will remain twelve."

     The gatekeeper said, "It is unheard of, there is no precedent to it. But I
cannot say no to you. GO IN, HAVE A TRY. But remember, after twenty-four
hours... I am taking a risk. After twenty-four hours, come back."

     After twenty-four hours, he came back. In those twenty-four hours, he
created a rumor among all the journalists that, "A great newspaper is going to
be started in hell and there is great need for editors, sub-editors, story
writers, all kinds of journalists. The salaries are great. So what are you doing
HERE?"

     After twenty-four hours when the journalist reached the gate, the gatekeeper
said, "Just go back. Now you cannot go out!"

     The journalist said, "Why not?"

     The gatekeeper said, "All the twelve journalists have gone. You are very
convincing. I tried hard to explain that, 'This is just a rumor, don't spoil
your heaven.' But they would not listen."

     AND THE MAN HIMSELF HAS CREATED THE RUMOR, but he started thinking perhaps
there is something in it -- otherwise twelve persons would not go to hell for no
reason.

     The gatekeeper said, "I have kept my word, and you have to keep your word."

     The man said, "Just open the door!" He was convinced by others being
convinced.

     And this happens to millions of people.

     When you see that SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE ARE CONVINCED THAT CATHOLIC
CHRISTIANITY IS THE ONLY RELIGION, it is difficult to say that those seven
hundred million people can be wrong. The sheer number has such weight.

     THAT'S WHY ALL THE RELIGIONS GO ON TRYING TO INCREASE THEIR NUMBERS. They
have their methods to increase their numbers -- because the more you increase
the numbers, the more you convince those who are not in your fold that they are
wrong and you are right. Your sheer majority is an argument, it validates
anything you say....

     Buddha says -- and you can see the sincerity of the man -- that "A MAN WHO
HAS ENTERED THE PATH, srotapanna, who has entered the stream that leads to the
ocean, IS MILLIONS OF TIMES MORE RESPECTABLE THAN ANYBODY ELSE, just because he
has entered the path in search of the truth. He has not found -- but just the
urge, just the effort, the first step, and he has become millions of times more
honorable than all your respectable generals, kings, emperors and world
conquerors.

OSHO
Beyond Enlightenment
Ch #17: The point of no return
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#290 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:01 pm
Subject: INITIATE ME IN THE ART OF MEDITATION, INTO THE SPACE OF IMMORTALITY
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] INITIATE ME IN THE ART OF MEDITATION, INTO THE SPACE OF
IMMORTALITY



    Remember each moment, what you are accumulating... IS IT GOING TO BE TAKEN
AWAY BY DEATH? Then it is not worth bothering about. If it is not going to be
taken away by death, then even life can be sacrificed for it -- because one day
or another life is going to disappear. BEFORE LIFE DISAPPEARS, USE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO FIND THAT WHICH NEVER DIES....

     A WOMAN'S HUSBAND DIED. She was young, had only one child. She wanted to
commit sati, she wanted to jump in the funeral pyre with her husband, but this
small child prevented her. She had to live for this small child. BUT THEN THE
SMALL CHILD DIED. Now it was too much. She went almost insane, asking people,
"Is there any physician anywhere who can make my child alive? I was living only
for him, now my whole life is simply dark..."
     IT HAPPENED THAT BUDDHA WAS COMING TO THE TOWN, so people said, "We don't
know any physician, but Buddha is coming. That is a great chance. You take the
child to Buddha and tell him that, 'I am living for this child, and the child
has died,' and ask him, 'You are such a great Enlightened person, call him back
to life! Have mercy on me!'"
     So she went to Buddha. SHE PUT THE DEAD BODY OF THE CHILD AT BUDDHA'S FEET
and she said, "Call him back to life! You know all the secrets of life, you have
attained to the ultimate peak of existence. Can't you do a small miracle for a
poor woman?"
     Buddha said, "I will do it, but there is a condition."
     She said, "I will fulfill any condition."
     Buddha said, "Settled. THE CONDITION IS: you go around the town and, FROM A
HOUSE WHERE NOBODY HAS EVER DIED, BRING FEW MUSTARD SEEDS." That village was
cultivating mustard seeds, so Buddha told her, "Just go around..."
     The woman could not understand the strategy. She went to one house, and they
said, "Few mustard seeds? We can bring few bullock carts full of mustard seeds
if Buddha can bring your son back to life. But our mustard seeds will not be of
any help, because NOT ONE, BUT THOUSANDS HAVE DIED IN OUR FAMILY.
     "Since eternity we are here. We have seen our great-grandfather dying, we
have seen our great-grandmother dying, we have seen our grandfather dying,
grandmother dying. WE HAVE SEEN SO MANY DEATHS IN OUR FAMILY. These mustard
seeds are useless. Buddha's condition is, 'From a house where nobody has ever
died.'"
     It was a small village, AND SHE WENT TO EVERY HOUSE. Everybody was ready:
"How many seeds you want?" But the condition was impossible, "So many people
have died in our families."
     By the evening she became aware of the fact, and of the strategy of Gautam
Buddha. SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHOEVER IS BORN IS GOING TO DIE. So what is the
point of getting the child back again? He will die again. It is better to seek
the eternal, which is never born and never dies." She came back, empty-handed.
     Buddha asked, "Where are the mustard seeds?"
     She laughed. In the morning she had come crying; now she laughed, and she
said, "You tricked me! EVERYBODY WHO IS BORN IS GOING TO DIE. There is no family
where nobody has died -- not in this village, not in the whole world. So I don't
want my son to be awakened again into life -- what is the point? After few days,
or few months, or few years, he will have to die again. And all these years he
will live in misery, in all kinds of anguish and anxiety.
     "Your compassion is great that you did not wake him up back to life! Forget
about the child. INITIATE ME INTO THE ART OF MEDITATION so that I can go into
the land, into the space of immortality, where birth and death have never
happened."
     Buddha said, "You are a very intelligent woman. You understand the point."

     I CALL THIS A MIRACLE, not Jesus' waking up Lazarus. I don't call that a
miracle. Apparently that looked like a miracle, but appearance is not the
reality. I call Buddha's strategy a miracle. Everybody is going to die, there is
no point... ONE HAS TO GET OUT OF BIRTH AND DEATH.

     AND BUDDHA INITIATED THE WOMAN, AND SHE BECAME ONE OF THE ENLIGHTENED ONES
among Buddha's disciples. Her urgency was such... she knew that, "My husband has
died, my child has died, and now it is my number. Any moment and I will be a
victim of death, so there is not much time. I don't know at what moment the
death is coming, so I have to be totally involved in the search, what the Buddha
is telling me to do: 'GO INWARDS. GO TO THE VERY CENTER OF YOUR BEING, AND YOU
WILL BE BEYOND BIRTH AND DEATH.'"

     This I call an authentic miracle: cutting the problem from the very roots.

OSHO
Christianity: The Deadliest Poison, and Zen: The Antidote to All Poisons
Ch #2: Service with a smile
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#289 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:53 am
Subject: Fw: [OshoBelgium] OSHO: I Am A Threat - Certainly
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#288 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:02 pm
Subject: WITH THIS SHORT LIFE, WE HAVE TO FIND THE ETERNAL
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    LIFE IS SHORT, ENERGY LIMITED, VERY LIMITED. And with this limited energy, we
have to find the unlimited; with this short life, we have to find the eternal --
a great task, a great challenge! So please, don't be concerned with unimportant
matters.

     WHAT IS IMPORTANT AND WHAT IS UNIMPORTANT? In Atisha's definition, or in the
definition of all the Buddhas, that which can be taken by death is unimportant
and that which cannot be taken by death is important. Remember this definition,
let this be a touchstone. You can judge anything immediately on this touchstone.

     Have you seen the touchstone on which gold is judged? Let this be a
touchstone for you. What is important? IS DEATH GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU?
Then it is NOT important. Money then is not important -- useful, but not
important, has no import. Power, prestige, respectability -- death will come and
efface them all, so why make so much fuss about them for the few days you are
here? THIS IS A CARAVANSERAI, an overnight stay, and by the morning we go.

     Remember, ONLY THAT WHICH YOU CAN TAKE WITH YOU WHEN YOU LEAVE THE BODY IS
IMPORTANT. That means, except meditation, nothing is important. Except
awareness, nothing is important -- because only awareness cannot be taken away
by death. Everything else will be snatched away -- because everything else comes
from without. Only awareness wells up within; that cannot be taken away. And the
shadows of awareness -- compassion, love -- they cannot be taken away; they are
intrinsic parts of awareness.

     YOU WILL BE TAKING WITH YOU only whatsoever awareness you have attained;
that is your only real wealth. All else is "ilth" not wealth.

OSHO
The Book of Wisdom
Ch #21: Vagabonds of the Soul
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#287 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: WHAT'S IMPORTANT? ONLY THAT WHICH CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY BY DEATH
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] WHAT'S IMPORTANT? ONLY THAT WHICH CANNOT BE TAKEN AWAY BY
DEATH




Remember:
Only that which you can take with you
when you leave the body
is important.

That means,
except meditation,
nothing is important.

Except awareness,
nothing is important --
because only awareness
cannot be taken away by death.

Everything else will be snatched away --
because everything else
comes from without.

Only awareness wells up within;
that cannot be taken away.

And the shadows of awareness
-- compassion, love --
they cannot be taken away;
they are intrinsic parts of awareness.

You will be taking with you
only whatsoever awareness you have attained;
that is your only real wealth.

OSHO



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#286 From: "Subhuti" <subhuti@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: BRINGING STUDENTS TO A HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT JUDGING THEM
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Subject: [RiverIIOsho] BRINGING STUDENTS TO A HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS IS NOT
JUDGING THEM




    My saying that you should not judge does not mean that you cannot say to a
student, because you are a teacher, "THE ANSWER YOU HAVE BROUGHT IS NOT RIGHT." 
It is not judging the person, it is judging the act. And I am not telling you
not to judge the act -- that is a totally different thing.

     FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY IS A THIEF -- you can judge that stealing is not good.
But don't judge the person -- because the person is a vast phenomenon and the
act is a small thing. The act is so small a piece... THAT SMALL PIECE should not
become a judgment about the whole person. A thief may have many beautiful
values: he may be truthful, he may be sincere, he may be a very loving person.

     When I say don't judge a person, I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO
SAY THAT SOMEBODY IS COMMITTING A MISTAKE. Somebody is falling into a well -- I
am not saying that you should just stand silently without judging. This
judgment, "Don't go that way"... perhaps that man is blind and you have to
prevent him; otherwise he will fall into the well. But preventing him, seeing
that he is blind, does not mean that you are condemning him. THE MOMENT YOU
START THINKING IN TERMS OF CONDEMNATION THEN JUDGMENT ENTERS, and I am against
that kind of judgment.

     ONE STUDENT IS DOING SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT RIGHT. You are a teacher, your
very function is to put the student on the right path. It is your love, it is
not your condemnation; it is your compassion, not your judgment. But most often
what happens is just the opposite: people start judging the person rather than
the action. ACTIONS HAVE TO BE CORRECTED -- AND PARTICULARLY IN A PROFESSION
LIKE TEACHING, you have to correct; you cannot allow students to go on doing
wrong things. That will be very cruel, uncompassionate.

     I have been a teacher myself, but I HAVE NEVER JUDGED A SINGLE STUDENT as
far as his person -- his being -- is concerned. But that does not mean I have
not corrected them if they were wrong....

     Just DON'T JUDGE SO QUICKLY, and don't judge the person. Judge actions, and
correct them, and don't correct them according to tradition, convention,
according to so-called morality, according to your prejudices. WHENEVER YOU ARE
CORRECTING SOMEBODY, BE VERY MEDITATIVE, BE VERY SILENT; look at the whole thing
from all perspectives. Perhaps they are doing the right thing, and your
prevention will not be right at all.

     So when I say, "Don't judge," I simply mean that no action gives you the
right to condemn the person. IF THE ACTION IS NOT RIGHT, HELP THE PERSON FIND
OUT WHY THE ACTION IS NOT RIGHT, but there is no question of judgment. DON'T
TAKE THE PERSON'S DIGNITY, don't humiliate him, don't make him feel guilty --
that's what I mean when I say, "don't judge."

     But as far as correcting is concerned: unprejudiced, silently, in your
awareness, IF YOU SEE THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG and will destroy that person's
intelligence -- will take him on the wrong paths in his life -- HELP HIM.

     THE JOB OF THE TEACHER is not just to teach futile things -- geography, and
history, and all kinds of nonsense. His basic function IS TO BRING THE STUDENTS
to a better consciousness, TO A HIGHER CONSCIOUSNESS. This should be your love
and your compassion, and this should be the only value on which you judge any
action as right or wrong. BUT NEVER FOR A SINGLE MOMENT LET THE PERSON FEEL THAT
HE HAS BEEN CONDEMNED. On the contrary, let him feel that he has been loved --
it is out of love that you have tried to correct him....

     So I AM NOT SAYING DON'T JUDGE. Particularly systems, conventions,
traditions -- judge them! But don't judge individuals. If their actions are
wrong, help them to get free of those wrong actions. IF THEY ARE GOING IN WRONG
DIRECTIONS, HELP THEM TO FIND RIGHT PATHS. And this should be your love, this
should not be your judgment.

OSHO
The Invitation
Ch #25: Just go and tell everybody
pm in Chuang Tzu Auditorium



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