Dear Violists on this Site: We are going through another down bump
again. It wasn't long ago that there was a very unpleasant fellow who
wasted a lot of our time and caused much annoyance on the viola
list. Ultimately he was blocked from this site.

Such sites as ours have much to offer but there will always be those
one or two on it who see this as their shining moment in the sun and
to be on center stage and do all kinds of things, sometimes attacking
others. We can't prevent the foibles of human nature, but I would
hope that our overseer will use his good sense to stop such things
before they really get out of hand. This seems to be happening again.

I can only hope that the few who have gotten way out of line will
shape up, be respectful and not indulge in attacks on character or
purpose of others.

We should expect much more than that from our brother and sister
violists -- a group of musicians that I still believe are at the top
of the musical ladder when it comes to humility and decency.

Just a few word of perhaps little purpose.

Myron R.


On Jan 12, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Christopher Nicholls wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Well here we are again... can I please suggest that we just
> ignore any attempt by anyone to aggravate - and keep
> anything like this off-list if at all. It really is a shame
> to spoil such a wonderful forum for interesting,
> invigorating and often challenging debate with derision,
> spite, aggravation and argument.
>
> If someone sends you a puerile or spiteful email - or posts
> one to a list, put a block on their messages so you don't
> get them. (If you don't know how to do that, let me know and
> I'll help you). It is a great way of avoiding them ever
> getting to you. And those who insist on sending such
> emails... stop. No one likes a smartass and it's verging on
> harassment anyway which in most countries is illegal.
>
> So everyone, just relax, and let's get back to the wonderful
> humdrum of opinion, experience and information that makes
> this one of the most brilliant music lists around. We are
> all here, I hope, because we love the viola, the music and
> our experience in playing it, and in the interests of
> ourselves and the wider viola community... Everything else
> is simply unimportant.
>
> In the Australia vernacular, "I love yous all".
>
> Best
>
> Christopher.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ann Roggen" <aroggen@...>
> To: <viola@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [viola] ann's reaction to Vitally's post
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:13:26 -0500
>
> > even though I realize that Vitally's post quoted below was
> > not originally sent to this list.
> >
> > I cringed when I read it.
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn't good. There are some boundaries that we really
> > ought not cross, as the professional adults that we are.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ann Roggen
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: viola@yahoogroups.com [mailto:viola@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Claire Goodman
> > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:06 PM
> > To: viola@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [viola] PLEASE stop
> >
> >
> >
> > Vitally, you really go too far. I don't ask student or
> > beginner questions in this group. I occasionally comment
> > or attempt to answer questions posed by students or
> > beginners; in doing that, I have as much right to post as
> > you do. I am also entitled to opinions as much as anyone
> > else - not that opinions matter here. I studied for many,
> > many years with excellent teachers on both coasts, but
> > apparently you think either that wasn't enough, or that I
> > didn't learn anything - what you are basing this on, I
> > have no idea, since you have never heard me play viola.
> >
> > I don't claim to be a world-class viola soloist - I am
> > merely a very experienced orchestra/opera/chamber music
> > player who has always played viola and not violin. I
> > believe my experience in this realm adds up to something
> > which can only be attained by doing just that - not by
> > studying, going to college, or getting degrees.
> >
> > Playing, and learning from (and loving) playing viola (and
> > other instruments), was my personal path towards
> > understanding the viola and music in general. BTW I also
> > have a great love for all the great music not involving
> > the viola!
> >
> > Claire
> > Claire Callahan Goodman
> > Vitally wrote to me and violasocial (the all-viagra
> > group):
> >
> > Hi Claire C Goodman
> > I know you are not but to my regret you sound like a
> > beginner. And it is a very poor way to learn the violin or
> > viola in a chat room or list group medium.
> > If you are really serious to learn to play the Viola , you
> > should get yourself a reputable Teacher.
> > And stop practising and learning over and over again , "
> > mistakes". But if you want to open up your mind and see
> > what is available , this is the medium.
> > You can not reach intelligence that doesn't exists.
> > Vitally
>
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