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Re: [viola] ann's reaction to Vitally's post

Really, I find it sad that non-musicians know viola jokes, do we have to
make jokes against ourselves?
Trevor

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Ann Roggen <aroggen@...> wrote:

> even though I realize that Vitally's post quoted below was not
> originally
> sent to this list.
>
> I cringed when I read it.
>
> It isn't good. There are some boundaries that we really ought not cross, as
> the professional adults that we are.
>
> Ann Roggen
>
> _____
>
> From: viola@yahoogroups.com <viola%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> viola@yahoogroups.com <viola%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> Claire Goodman
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:06 PM
> To: viola@yahoogroups.com <viola%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [viola] PLEASE stop
>
> Vitally, you really go too far. I don't ask student or beginner questions
> in this group. I occasionally comment or attempt to answer questions posed
> by students or beginners; in doing that, I have as much right to post as
> you
> do. I am also entitled to opinions as much as anyone else - not that
> opinions matter here. I studied for many, many years with excellent
> teachers on both coasts, but apparently you think either that wasn't
> enough,
> or that I didn't learn anything - what you are basing this on, I have no
> idea, since you have never heard me play viola.
>
> I don't claim to be a world-class viola soloist - I am merely a very
> experienced orchestra/opera/chamber music player who has always played
> viola
> and not violin. I believe my experience in this realm adds up to something
> which can only be attained by doing just that - not by studying, going to
> college, or getting degrees.
>
> Playing, and learning from (and loving) playing viola (and other
> instruments), was my personal path towards understanding the viola and
> music
> in general. BTW I also have a great love for all the great music not
> involving the viola!
>
> Claire
> Claire Callahan Goodman
> Vitally wrote to me and violasocial (the all-viagra group):
>
> Hi Claire C Goodman
> I know you are not but to my regret you sound like a beginner.
> And it is a very poor way to learn the violin or viola in a chat room or
> list group medium.
> If you are really serious to learn to play the Viola , you should get
> yourself a reputable Teacher.
> And stop practising and learning over and over again , " mistakes".
> But if you want to open up your mind and see what is available , this is
> the
> medium.
> You can not reach intelligence that doesn't exists.
> Vitally
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>


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Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:11 pm

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Vitally, you really go too far. I don't ask student or beginner questions in this group. I occasionally comment or attempt to answer questions posed by...
Claire Goodman
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Jan 12, 2009
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even though I realize that Vitally's post quoted below was not originally sent to this list. I cringed when I read it. It isn't good. There are some boundaries...
Ann Roggen
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Jan 12, 2009
10:13 pm

I agree with Ann. It was painful to read the unpleasant letter Vitally wrote to Claire and I find it out of place here. I may not always agree with Claire but...
Rick Draganowski
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Jan 12, 2009
11:23 pm

Hi all, Well here we are again... can I please suggest that we just ignore any attempt by anyone to aggravate - and keep anything like this off-list if at all....
Christopher Nicholls
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Jan 12, 2009
11:34 pm

Dear Violists on this Site: We are going through another down bump again. It wasn't long ago that there was a very unpleasant fellow who wasted a lot of our...
Myron Rosenblum
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Jan 13, 2009
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Really, I find it sad that non-musicians know viola jokes, do we have to make jokes against ourselves? Trevor ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
Trevor
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Jan 13, 2009
6:12 pm

vitally and claire make me want to leave the viola list...
Nicholas Hancox
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Jan 13, 2009
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What I don't understand is why you., Claire, are responding now to a comment by Vitally that was made a month or two or three ago. Or was there a glitch in...
Beat Gross
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Jan 13, 2009
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I have no intention of causing ANY problems and I don't wish to be disrespectful, this is just my opinion: It seems to me that these messages were private....
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