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Re: [voncello_offtopicgroup] Give peace a chance!

cambiatagn@... wrote:

> of us think our country is being run by a simple-minded madman, who
> was no elected by the popular vite, but rather put into power by a
> most UNdemocratic abuse of power by the Supreme Court.

Our country is a democracy. It is run by many people in several sections
of the government with checks and balances. I disagreed with the Supreme
Court. I voted for Al Gore. But you constantly make nasty remarks about
our leaders and our system of government that are not true.

Bush is not a simple minded person nor is he mad. Those are just nasty
personal attacks. Also, the Supreme Court acted within the law. What
they did was not undemocratic or an abuse of power. If it was, Gore
would have challenged them. You don't seem to understand our system of
government and you seem to be an enemy of it, by your insulting
comments.


>
> If we get rid of Saddam, the enemy we know, there is a very good
> chance that he will be replaced by one of several potentially worse
> individuals or, worse still, by Somalia like factional fighting.

There is much more of a chance that he will be replaced by someone much
better. You could have used that same argument to avoid toppling HItler.
Saddam is a madman, evidenced by the tortures he inflicts on his own
people. It is immoral to allow him to stay in power. As for the
fractionalization of Iraq, why does that bother you? Are you against the
right to self determination for the Kurds and the Shiites in Iraq?


>
>
> My comment about your not being open to honest debate without resort
> to name-calling or denigration is based on your own words.

You are the one who is ending the debate, not I. And I am not calling
you names.


>
>
> Anyway, my sister was taken to the hospital this morning, so I have to
> admit that my head and heart are not into continuing this debate - I
> have more immediate concerns.

I hope your sister gets better.

I notice you still haven't responded to my comments about you equating
Israel to the regime in Baghdad. It is very easy to make up an excuse to
run away from a debate. My sister has been in and out of the hospital
several times and I didn't use that as an excuse to stop communicating
with people on important issues. Obviously you are a person who throws
out negative attacks and then when questioned finds a way to run and
hide.

Good riddance!

Now perhaps some peace will come back to this blessed email group. :--)

Von Cello
http://www.voncello.com/

"Moral equivalency is not moral!"


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Fri Feb 21, 2003 7:49 pm

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... No, my point is that you singled out Israel and Morocco to make your point, not much worse offenders like many Arab countries, Russia, etc. Why is Israel...
Von Cello (Aaron Mins...
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Feb 21, 2003
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Here is just one more example of how people jump on Israel. Here we find the United States arresting a terror ring, but there are those who use this as another...
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Feb 21, 2003
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of us think our country is being run by a simple-minded madman, who was no elected by the popular vite, but rather put into power by a most UNdemocratic abuse...
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... Our country is a democracy. It is run by many people in several sections of the government with checks and balances. I disagreed with the Supreme Court. I...
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Feb 21, 2003
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<<of us think our country is being run by a simple-minded madman, who was no elected by the popular vite, but rather put into power by a most UNdemocratic...
Loraine
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Feb 21, 2003
9:04 pm

Thanks for the kind words andthe much-needed smile. My sister was released this evening and it doesn't seem to have been anything life-threatening (for q while...
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Feb 21, 2003
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In a message dated 2/21/03 2:52:00 PM, voncello@... writes: << I notice you still haven't responded to my comments about you equating Israel to the...
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Feb 21, 2003
10:53 pm

... You are totally welcome! Everyone is welcome! This is the off topic group! Anyone can post anything! You just have to realize that if you make posts that...
Von Cello (Aaron Mins...
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Feb 22, 2003
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Hi Aaron, just letting you know that I'm signing off, too, not with bad feelings but because I do disagree with confrontational statements such as having to...
Loraine
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Feb 22, 2003
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Below is a letter that Suzanne sent to Loraine, and was kind enough to forward to me. I will post it here and make some comments as I think it pertains to what...
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