From: mattias.helmer <mattias.helmer@...>
Subject: [yamahan12] Re: Help, driver confusion
To: yamahan12@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 18 April, 2009, 3:39 PM

Hi,
thanks for the response. I posted the original question in
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/133358-yamaha-n-series-93.html#post4106348
as well. Here's a cpoy-paste of what I just responded there:
"I just tried the n8 on an old computer with a PCI fw adapter. It works. I
was first worried that I had broken the n8 during the firmware update but now I
know that the problem is in the other end of the fw-cable; my PCMCIA fw adapter,
my laptop or its drivers and OS.
I know that there is some communication between the computer and the n8 since
the 5 location buttons are working in Cubase AI. Does this mean that my PCMCIA
card is working? The fw adapter I use is
http://www.exitdata.se/exit/prodinfo.asp?id=95 (site language is Swedish
however). I've been using it with Mackie Onyx Satellite with no problems
before.
Is XP sp3 the problem? The older computer has sp2."
I did follow the installation instruction PDFs tightly and the sweet spot
updater is working. Regards / Mattias --- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, mark_king@... wrote:
>
> Just to check did you read the update PDF file that cvame with the v2
tools? I ask because you are not only updating the firewire interface on the n8
but also the firmware of the desk itself.
>  
> Can you upload sweet spot data ok? I assume you have a connection to the
desk?
>  
> Try and go through the pdf very slowly and do not miss out a single step
>  
> Regards
>  
> Mark
> > --- On Sat, 18/4/09, mattias.helmer <mattias.helmer@...> wrote:
> > From: mattias.helmer <mattias.helmer@...>
> Subject: [yamahan12] Re: Help, driver confusion
> To: yamahan12@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, 18 April, 2009, 1:47 PM
> > Hi again,
> I can't any sound from DAW to n8 or vice versa. Also, the Daw Remote
> Control section of the n8 i totally dead (no lights).
> > Here's what I did:
> > 1. Installed Cubase AI + update to 4.5.2 downloaded from Steinberg.
> 2. Installed IEEE1394 Firmware Updater V107 (previous version was 1.03 if
> remeber correctly)
> 3. Installed n Firmware Updater V103
> 4. Installed win tools for n v200 (confirmed installation OK - got the
correct
> entries in the Device Manager)
> > Just to check, I set the windows sound default device to Steinberg FW WDM
> Audio. When I tried to play some music from Windows Media Player I got:
> "Windows Media Player cannot play the file because there is a problem
with
> your sound device. There may not be a sound device installed on your
computer,
> it may be in use by another program, or it may not be functioning
> properly."
> > I opened the demo project in Cubase AI. No sound, non of the VU-meters are
even
> moving. However, the 5 transport buttons works but non of the other
buttons in
> the Daw remote Control section are lit.
> > Gear: > Dell Latitude D820
> TI-based PCMCIA FW adapter
> Win XP (32-bit) sp3
> > Any ideas? > > Regards / Mattias
> > > --- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, mark_king@ wrote:
> >
> > 1.6.3 is the last version before v2. > >  
> > To check the firmware get one of the firware updaters and open the
> program. It will not update until you ask it to but it will show you what
> version you are already on.
> >  
> > I can't answer the rest as I have no idea. Maybe others who use
it for
> the same purpose can advise?
> >  
> > Regards
> >  
> > Mark
> > > > --- On Fri, 17/4/09, mattias.helmer <mattias.helmer@> wrote:
> > > > From: mattias.helmer <mattias.helmer@>
> > Subject: [yamahan12] Re: Help, driver confusion
> > To: yamahan12@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, 17 April, 2009, 7:31 AM
> > > > Hi again,
> > my N8 has arrived. I will try it out tonight.
> > > > As I understand, if you decide to upgrade the N8 firmware to the
latest
> version
> > it will not support mLan ever again (there is no way to undo this).
> Questions:
> > > > 1. Wich is the latest firmvare version with mLan-support?
> > > > 2. How can I find out wich firmware that is installed i my N8.
> > > > 3. Will there ever be a mLan16e2 (i.e. with support for the mLan
> successor) for
> > Motif ES?
> > > > Regards / Mattias
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, mark_king@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I use the new FW driver which is incredibly stable and starts up
> perfect
> > every time (not always the case with the old AI driver or the unified
one)
> I
> > don't know what the problems or options are as far as the motif
is
> concerned
> > though so others may be able to help you with this. I only use my
single
> n12 and
> > the new driver works great. When your desk arrives I would guess it
would
> still
> > need to be upgraded as well. (I got a replacement and this did)
> > >  
> > > Regards
> > >  
> > > Mark
> > > > > > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, mattias.helmer <mattias.helmer@>
wrote:
> > > > > > From: mattias.helmer <mattias.helmer@>
> > > Subject: [yamahan12] Help, driver confusion
> > > To: yamahan12@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 9:35 AM
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > I'm awaiting my ordered n8 that I plan to use on a Dell
laptop
> with a
> > > PCMCIA firewire card (TI-based). OS is Windows XP (32-bit). I
will
> use
> > Cubase AI
> > > but also Ableton Live and maybe Reaper. Motif ES is also used
but I
> have
> > no
> > > mLAN16E for it (possible future upgrade though).
> > > > > > Which drivers and firmware shall I use? > > > > > > In've come across the following names of drivers:
> > > - n Drivers
> > > - AI drivers
> > > - WDM-drivers
> > > - mLAN Driver/mLAN Tools
> > > - Yamaha Steinberg FW Driver > > > > > > Yamaha driver download page states the following about TOOLS for
n
> V2.0.0
> > for
> > > Windows Vista/XP 32bit:
> > > "After updating the n8/n12 firmware, the n8/n12 will NOT be
able
> to
> > be
> > > used with the n Driver, AI Driver or mLAN Driver/mLAN Tools.
Also
> keep in
> > mind
> > > that the previous firmware version of the n8/n12 cannot be
restored.
> If
> > you use
> > > n12/n8 with 01X, i88x, mLAN16E (option for MOTIF ES and S90ES)
and
> > MY-16mLAN
> > > (option for 01V/01V96, 02R96, DM1000, DM2000, AW2400 ) via mLAN,
> please do
> > not
> > > use these software update."
> > > > > > What will I be missing if don't do the update and which
drivers
> shall
> > I use
> > > then?
> > > > > > Regards / Mattias
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