--- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, Derek Morgan <therage57@...> wrote:
>
> I can try to help.
>
> But also post this at the gearslutz thread because there are a
couple Sonar users over there.
>
> Getting late for me so I will have to get back to you later tomorrow.
>
> Do you see the ASIO mLAN drivers in Sonar? Give me all the info you
can and we can got from there.
>
>
>
> Under Options\Control
> surfaces....set your control surface to Mackie. At that same window
your In Port should say mLAN MIDI in, and your out Port you should see
mLAN MIDI Out.
>
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, steamlovesredette <thesteam@...> wrote:
> From: steamlovesredette <thesteam@...>
> Subject: [yamahan12] Re: Yamaha n12 and Sonar 7 windows Vista 32 bit
> To: yamahan12@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:29 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             --- In yamahan12@yahoogrou ps.com, Derek Morgan
<therage57@ ..> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Douglas,
>
> >
>
> > It should work since there are n12 drivers for Vista. I have those
>
> functions working on Sonar 5 but running XP. I don't think you'll have
>
> a problem.
>
> >
>
> > Derek
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, steamlovesredette <thesteam@ .> wrote:
>
> > From: steamlovesredette <thesteam@ .>
>
> > Subject: [yamahan12] Yamaha n12 and Sonar 7 windows Vista 32 bit
>
> > To: yamahan12@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> > Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:06 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I tried to see your word document Derek, but the graphics wouldn't
>
> open. All I want is to use Sonar with n12 and be able to record more
>
> than a stereo track to Sonar. I know, it sounds simple enough.
>
>
>
> Am I asking too much?
>
>
>
> Thanks man, saw your post on gearsluts. Can you be my guru for a
>
> little bit?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >             I have searched literally for hours upon end. I know
>
> that it is tacky
>
> >
>
  to post a topic that has been covered. Please excuse and forgive me if
>
  I am just lame. I want to know someone that has made the Yamaha n12

  work with Sonar 7.
  Has anyone on the message board done this? Does it at least


  work with the Buttons like it does with Cubase AI... play, stop,

  record, rewind?




"> Under Options\Control
> surfaces....set your control surface to Mackie. At that same window
your In Port should say mLAN MIDI in, and your out Port you should see
mLAN MIDI Out."

  I didn't see this part of the message due to my tiredness. I will
check that tomorrow. I will post this in gearslutz when we get a
solution. I am trying to contact as many sonar users as I can.
           Thanks again.

      Douglas

--- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, Derek Morgan <therage57@...> wrote:
>
> I can try to help.
>
> But also post this at the gearslutz thread because there are a
couple Sonar users over there.
>
> Getting late for me so I will have to get back to you later tomorrow.
>
> Do you see the ASIO mLAN drivers in Sonar? Give me all the info you
can and we can got from there.
>
>
>
> Under Options\Control
> surfaces....set your control surface to Mackie. At that same window
your In Port should say mLAN MIDI in, and your out Port you should see
mLAN MIDI Out.
>
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, steamlovesredette <thesteam@...> wrote:
> From: steamlovesredette <thesteam@...>
> Subject: [yamahan12] Re: Yamaha n12 and Sonar 7 windows Vista 32 bit
> To: yamahan12@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:29 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             --- In yamahan12@yahoogrou ps.com, Derek Morgan
<therage57@ ..> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Douglas,
>
> >
>
> > It should work since there are n12 drivers for Vista. I have those
>
> functions working on Sonar 5 but running XP. I don't think you'll have
>
> a problem.
>
> >
>
> > Derek
>
> >
>
> > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, steamlovesredette <thesteam@ .> wrote:
>
> > From: steamlovesredette <thesteam@ .>
>
> > Subject: [yamahan12] Yamaha n12 and Sonar 7 windows Vista 32 bit
>
> > To: yamahan12@yahoogrou ps.com
>
> > Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:06 PM
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I tried to see your word document Derek, but the graphics wouldn't
>
> open. All I want is to use Sonar with n12 and be able to record more
>
> than a stereo track to Sonar. I know, it sounds simple enough.
>
>
>
> Am I asking too much?
>
>
>
> Thanks man, saw your post on gearsluts. Can you be my guru for a
>
> little bit?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >             I have searched literally for hours upon end. I know
>
> that it is tacky
>
> >
>
> > to post a topic that has been covered. Please excuse and forgive me if
>
> >
>
> > I am just lame. I want to know someone that has made the Yamaha n12
>
> >
>
> > work with Sonar 7.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Has anyone on the message board done this? Does it at least
>
> >
>
> > work with the Buttons like it does with Cubase AI... play, stop,
>
> >
>
> > record, rewind?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > thesteam@hotmail. com
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Douglas
>
> >
>
We tackle this tomorrow THANKS!

--- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, Derek Morgan <therage57@...> wrote:
>
> Douglas,
>
> It should work since there are n12 drivers for Vista. I have those
functions working on Sonar 5 but running XP. I don't think you'll have
a problem.
>
> Derek
>
> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, steamlovesredette <thesteam@...> wrote:
> From: steamlovesredette <thesteam@...>
> Subject: [yamahan12] Yamaha n12 and Sonar 7 windows Vista 32 bit
> To: yamahan12@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:06 PM
>
>
> I tried to see your word document Derek, but the graphics wouldn't
open. All I want is to use Sonar with n12 and be able to record more
than a stereo track to Sonar. I know, it sounds simple enough.

Am I asking too much?

      Thanks man, saw your post on gearsluts. Can you be my guru for a
little bit?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>             I have searched literally for hours upon end. I know
that it is tacky
>
> to post a topic that has been covered. Please excuse and forgive me if
>
> I am just lame. I want to know someone that has made the Yamaha n12
>
> work with Sonar 7.
>
>
>
> Has anyone on the message board done this? Does it at least
>
> work with the Buttons like it does with Cubase AI... play, stop,
>
> record, rewind?
>
>
>
> Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> thesteam@hotmail. com
>
>
>
> Douglas
>

I have searched literally for hours upon end. I know that it is tacky
to post a topic that has been covered. Please excuse and forgive me if
I am just lame. I want to know someone that has made the Yamaha n12
work with Sonar 7.

         Has anyone on the message board done this? Does it at least
work with the Buttons like it does with Cubase AI... play, stop,
record, rewind?

     Any info would be greatly appreciated.

            thesteam@...

            Douglas

Guys, I just can't make my computers work with the Yamaha mixers
(n8,n12). After change my Windows XP 64 bits for the Windows XP 32
bits, I still have the same problem: my computers don't recognise the
mixers. I have no idea what's going on. Just let you know, that's
what I got:
2x Intel Core 2 Duo
500 GB SATA HDD UDMA 300 7200 16MB
CREATIVE X-FI XTREME MUSIC 7.1
Coolermaster Centurion 5
INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6850 1333FSB - 4 MB
GEIL 4GB DDR2 800 CL5.0 DUAL CHANNEL BRUSH ALUMINUM RET
ASUS DVD±RW 20x S-ATA DRW-2014L1T BLACK LIGHTSCRIBE (SATA)
XPERTVISION 512MB GeF 8800GT PCI-E 2xDVI
2 x Yusmart 19" Wide TFT Silver/Black - 5 MS (Dual Screen Setup)
ASUS SKT-775 P5K-E WIFI-AP S/L 1333FSB
MS WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL 32-BIT
10 X USB 2.0 PORTS
FAST 10/100 ETHERNET LAN (BROADBAND READY)
HIPER POWER 580W LOW NOISE/SLI READY
Internal Card Reader 50-in-1
Speeze QuadroFlow VIII - Low Noise
It's not bad. Is it? So, where is the problem? Thank you very much,
for any help.


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Guys, I just can't make my computers work with the Yamaha mixers
(n8,n12). After change my Windows XP 64 bits for the Windows XP 32
bits, I still have the same problem: my computers don't recognise the
mixers. I have no idea what's going on. Just let you know, that's
what I got:
    2x Intel Core 2 Duo
    500 GB SATA HDD UDMA 300 7200 16MB
    CREATIVE X-FI XTREME MUSIC 7.1
    Coolermaster Centurion 5
    INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6850 1333FSB - 4 MB
    GEIL 4GB DDR2 800 CL5.0 DUAL CHANNEL BRUSH ALUMINUM RET
    ASUS DVD±RW 20x S-ATA DRW-2014L1T BLACK LIGHTSCRIBE (SATA)
    XPERTVISION 512MB GeF 8800GT PCI-E 2xDVI
    2 x Yusmart 19" Wide TFT Silver/Black - 5 MS (Dual Screen Setup)
    ASUS SKT-775 P5K-E WIFI-AP S/L 1333FSB
    MS WINDOWS XP PROFESSIONAL 32-BIT
    10 X USB 2.0 PORTS
    FAST 10/100 ETHERNET LAN (BROADBAND READY)
    HIPER POWER 580W LOW NOISE/SLI READY
    Internal Card Reader 50-in-1
    Speeze QuadroFlow VIII - Low Noise
It's not bad. Is it? So, where is the problem? Thank you very much,
for any help.

Hi! I really need some help from this group. I just bought two Yamaha
mixers (N8 & N12)and can't make my computers recognise them. Maybe, the
problem is my OS (Windows XP Professional 64 Bits). So, my question is:
Is it possible, to make these Yamaha mixers work on 64 bits??? Thank
you very much, for any help. Sorry about my poor english.

Hi

Im having a weird problem. The Transport section of the N12 is sending
out note info to Cubase. If I start the song with the keyboard och
mouse then the Transport on the N12 responds. But if I use the N12
Remote, all I hear is a note playing on the selected channel.

I reinstalled the MLan driver and that fixed the problem but it
reoccurred after I had left the computer in hybernation state over
night.

I assume that the N12 Remote has somehow been set as a Midi input
rather than a Remote, but how do I change that back without having to
reinstall MLan (which seems to be working).

Cheers /Johan

Hi

Im having a weird problem. The Transport section of the N12 is sending
out note info to Cubase. If I start the song with the keyboard och
mouse then the Transport on the N12 responds. But if I use the N12
Remote, all I hear is a note playing on the selected channel.

I reinstalled the MLan driver and that fixed the problem but it
reoccurred after I had left the computer in hybernation state over
night.

I assume that the N12 Remote has somehow been set as a Midi input
rather than a Remote, but how do I change that back without having to
reinstall MLan (which seems to be working).

Cheers  /Johan

Hi all

I just joined the group and I'm quite new to recording, so bear with
me... I received my N12 a couple of days ago. It installed on XP
without hassle and the sound is great.

Transport control works like a charm but I thought that the faders on
the N12 would send data to the Cubase AI mixer. Is there any way of
achieving this, or do I have to buy a control surface as well ?

Cheers

/Johan

Hi all

I just joined the group and I'm quite new to recording, so bear with
me... I received my N12 a couple of days ago. It installed on XP
without hassle and the sound is great.

Transport control works like a charm but I thought that the faders on
the N12 would send data to the Cubase AI mixer. Is there any way of
achieving this, or do I have to buy a control surface as well ?

Cheers

/Johan

Hi all

I just joined the group and I'm quite new to recording, so bear with
me... I received my N12 a couple of days ago. It installed on XP
without hassle and the sound is great.

Transport control works like a charm but I thought that the faders on
the N12 would send data to the Cubase AI mixer. Is there any way of
achieving this, or do I have to buy a control surface as well ?

Cheers

/Johan

thanks for the info on the firewire port on the laptop.here the deal i
have a vm3100pro digital mixer and a rpc1 card on my old system.  just
move and  all my stuff is in stowage for now.i wanted to start a new
project room with some old and new stuff. the odering of the new mixer
(n12)is on the way. look at the v-fire r-bus interface for too reason.
my old vm3100pro and looking at the roland mv8800 production unit. can
this all be connected with firewire into the n12 i have look into the v-
fire ( presonus )there no driver for vista yet.some feedback would be
help full

--- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, "manuelrgross" <manuelrgross@...>
wrote:
>
> hi i just got a hp dv6809wn laptop with A daul core amd turion 64 bit
> processor 2.0 ghz and 4g ram and firewire port. just wanting too see
if
> this laptop will be ok and with windows vista premium. do i needs to
> install all of the vista file's from yamaha web site. i haven't got
my
> 12n yet. is there any thing else to look at before i get my board
> thanks for the help
>

i use an acer laptop running vista with my n12...i did get firewire
socket problems after about 4 months of use....i purchased a siig
expresscard54 firewire i/f and everything is ok now...just a warning
that the firewire socket on a laptop isnt industrial enough...
probably....

paul

hi i just got a hp dv6809wn laptop with A daul core amd turion 64 bit
processor 2.0 ghz and 4g ram and firewire port. just wanting too see if
this laptop will be ok and with windows vista premium. do i needs to
install all of the vista file's from yamaha web site. i haven't got my
12n yet. is there any thing else to look at before i get my board
thanks for the help

thanks  i will ckeck into a desktop too

i haven't order my yamaha n12 yet still not sure i have been reading a
lot of post. befor i do order i need a new laptop to start i just need
to know if this package is on the starter end of the scale or can you
do some pro stuff with it like high end vst plug in and mic's and pre's
it look good i what the analog mixer with the firwire interface not too
big on the bundle of software i did the roland studopack thing not
wantting to repat it


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i haven't order my yamaha n12 yet still not sure i have been reading a
lot of post. befor i do order i need a new laptop to start i just need
to know if this package is on the starter end of the scale or can you
do some pro stuff with it like high end vst plug in and mic's and pre's
it look good i what the analog mixer with the firwire interface not too
big on the bundle of software i did the roland studopack thing not
wantting to repat it

I use cubase 4 and a 3.2 gig machine with 2gig ram. Mine is dual boot xp pro and the music partition has nothing but music apps. My cpu usage when nothing runnung is very low. When running a lot is only slightly higher than my old ews88mt pci card

electronglow <Joachim.Verghese@netcontrol.fi> wrote:

Hi,

I too use Cubase Studio 4, but don't seem to get any excessive
CPU usage. Without any project open CPU usage is around 2 - 8 %,
with the "All 4 You" example project open around 20 - 25 %, and
when playing back 25 - 45 % (video disabled).

I run WinXP on a 3 GHz P4 with 1GB RAM. The buffer size in Cubase
is set to 192.

Don't know if it makes any difference, but this particular PC
has not been connected to the internet, so there might be less
background tasks running, or something, but I'm no expert on
Windows.

This is not much help, I do wonder what's causing the CPU load in
your system.




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Hi,

I too use Cubase Studio 4, but don't seem to get any excessive
CPU usage. Without any project open CPU usage is around 2 - 8 %,
with the "All 4 You" example project open around 20 - 25 %, and
when playing back 25 - 45 % (video disabled).

I run WinXP on a 3 GHz P4 with 1GB RAM. The buffer size in Cubase
is set to 192.

Don't know if it makes any difference, but this particular PC
has not been connected to the internet, so there might be less
background tasks running, or something, but I'm no expert on
Windows.

This is not much help, I do wonder what's causing the CPU load in
your system.




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Hi,

I too use Cubase Studio 4, but don't seem to get any excessive
CPU usage. Without any project open CPU usage is around 2 - 8 %,
with the "All 4 You" example project open around 20 - 25 %, and
when playing back 25 - 45 % (video disabled).

I run WinXP on a 3 GHz P4 with 1GB RAM. The buffer size in Cubase
is set to 192.

Don't know if it makes any difference, but this particular PC
has not been connected to the internet, so there might be less
background tasks running, or something, but I'm no expert on
Windows.

This is not much help, I do wonder what's causing the CPU load in
your system.

Hi there i have an n8 myself and it is proving to be an absolute mare to talk to
either the
laptop g4 with 1 gig of ram or the standalone g5.

Is there a demo film available to show what i have obviously missed in setting
up the
firewire. ( I have tried all possiibilities believe you me. I feel like selling
it right now !!.

pace

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--- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Spragg" <sirreal@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys (and gals?), just a quick one to say hello. I'm hoping to
> pick anyone's brain on this group who might also be using Logic with
> the N12. I think I'm starting to get it all pretty much sussed now in
> terms of basic compatibility, but there still seem to be questions as
> to whether (in the future) there might be some tighter integration
> implemented a la Cubase AI. Would be nice to think that I can stick
> with my DAW of choice, and that someone somewhere is working on a
> Logic equivalent of the Steinberg extensions that make the AI possible...
> Anyway, looking forward to a weekend of recording my band using the
> N12 (alongside my Macbook Pro running Logic Pro), hopefully it should
> be a fairly painless process ;-) I'll let you know how I get on...
>

I have noticed heavy CPU usage when running Cubase (I'm now running
Cubase Studio 4) but I hadn't really paid much attention to it because
I've been mixing OTB and have only ran a few plugs here and there.

Anyhow I decided to try out Amplitube amp model plug and it basically
will not run. It slows my PC down to an extreme crawl..making it
useless. I was thinking it was a problem with Amplitube but I loaded
it up in Sonar 5 and it works fine and does not slow my PC down that I
can at least notice.

So I decided to check the Windows CPU usage tool and Cubase even
without a project loaded is running at 50-60% and when I load (small
project) a project it goes up to over 80%. I basically cannot run
Amplitube in Cubase with this CPU hit. In Sonar the CPU is running
around 20% with a project loaded and no problem running Amplitube.

My PC is not too fast but it has not given me any problems and I can
run quite a few plugs in Sonar and mixing OTB with Cubase and N12 I
haven't really had a problem until now. It's a P4 2.2 ghz with 1 GB RAM.

I've got a screen shot doc of this too in the groups file section.

Can any of you check your Windows CPU usage and see if you get the
same thing?

Do you any of you MAC users see heavy CPU usage?

Thanks guys!

The way I'm currently implementing hardware effects
during mixing is as follows:  (using Ableton Live and
N12)

1.set up external effect plugin

2.Send audio to be processed to aux outs(15/16)

3.patch in effects, route to input channel

4.adjust to taste

This way is nice because I can control and automate
the wet/dry balance.  The drawback is that I can only
have one stereo track or two mono tracks assigned to
different effects at a time.  Alternately, I can
process individual tracks, then print them to another
track, or simply record with effects.  With the
latter, I'm stuck with what I did, and with the
former, it can be very uninspiring and time consuming.

I thought it would be great to get an 8 channel insert
snake to allow myself more external processing, but I
noticed that the manual  says that when using hardware
mix, the signal is sent to the N12 after the A/D
converters.  So it would appear that I cannot use the
channel inserts to give myself more channels of
external processing. Is this correct, and is there a
better way to go about this than my current methods?
Thanks for any helpful hints you all may have.

-Mike





      
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Hey Mark, thanks for the heads up on the wireless issue. As for why I
would buy an N12 if I'm not using Cubase...well, I think the
combination of a well-engineered desk, very nice mic pre-amps, and a
built-in 16in/16out firewire interface had something to do with it!
Simply put, there isn't any other product like this in the marketplace
that I know of...




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--- In yamahan12@yahoogroups.com, mark king <mark_king@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know what it is like with a mac but watch out if you have
wireless enabled. I have it on my laptop (vista) and xp fixed machine
and both stutter like crazy if left enabled. Apart from that works
like a dream.
>

That is a general rule with any Firewire audio device. Wireless and
Firewire audio don't play well together....


>
>   I have to admit I'm not sure why you would get an n12 if not using
cubase as you can literaly only use the bottom row of buttons.
>
#1  It sounds better :)
#2  A high-end monitoring system not found on ANYTHING in the n12
price range
#3  In terms of routing, you can still do all the things you can do
with any other A/D and D/A and more. What Cubase gives you is ease of
use and integration not found with other hardware or software. and the
WONDERFUL "WET" button :)

Don't forget, Cubase AI is included and you can use it like a
stand-alone VST that talks to the n12 and lets you use any DAW .
Anyone who has used a 8/16/24 Track Tape machine will appreciate
recording all DAW tracks as "Stems". That way you can move freely
about the digital world ;-)


>I can't imagine that it will support other daw software as yamaha own
stienberg and this is a really good way to get people to buy in. You
never know though.
>

Don't forget, Yamaha loves all software and Steinberg loves all
hardware.  ;-)  But as you can see, with the new products, there is
real advantages to using them together.. (I'll get off my marketing
soapbox now)